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[quote]You can even throw a dictionary at me, but once again i point out: that is wrong. Evolution can occur without random chance, and there can be random changes without any evolution. [/quote] Obviously. I never said the opposite. So why are you pointing this out and then somehow suggesting that I said something contrary to it :confused: As I said, [b]one of the properties[/b] of Evolution is random change. This does not mean that all Evolution and change is based on it. I find that a very odd thing for you to point out or dwell upon - it makes no sense to me. [quote]Evolution is about finding the way of best leaping the entropy barrier that allows for producing entropy producing machines. (from Rudolph Clausius) [/quote] Ermmm...no. Evolution only describes and defines a process - the process itself does not necessarily lead to a "best" way of doing something. Indeed, in Evolution something can evolve for the worst, and die out, especially should the environment change (as it is prone to do). [quote]Now, excuse me for not reading this article now, but it starts with the "in Brownian space" in its title and that throws me a bit off. As it should throw off anyone. It also lacks an abstract and seems to have a bloated bibliography. Both are a bit of a turn off.[/quote] Well, since you have not read it, wouldn't it be prudent to refrain from commenting about it until you have? ;) [quote]You could say it belongs with something like Phrenology, which is now only pseudo-science, but, ID is a bit fresher, and i for one, am totally open to what it may bring.[/quote] All I have to say to that is [i]There's a sucker born every minute[/i] - unknown. That, and you are of course entitled to your opinion. As for being "stuck up", well, thank you for the personal insult. That was very nice of you to stoop down to my level from your obviously high perch for at least a moment, even if it was to insult me :p You see, I have already done my investigations into ID (long ago, we had many a debate here on the boards back then on it). As TalkOrigin shows beyond a shadow of a doubt, ID simply fails to meet criteria to be a scientific theory. Until it gets to that stage, it is not worth considering as such, or in competition with such. [url=http://faq.ozoneasylum.com/397/]WebShaman[/url] | [i]The keenest sorrow (and greatest truth) is to recognize ourselves as the sole cause of all our adversities. - Sophocles[/i]
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