Actually....
Respect is something that I will give straight away, a person can only lose my respect.
quote: Arthurio said:
Something obvious but a word of wisdom nevertheless from the top of my head.Mutual respect is not a pre-requisite of respect. Respect is a pre-requisite of mutual respect.Please remember.
"Mutual respect is not a pre-requisite of respect. Respect is a pre-requisite of mutual respect."
Now that made my head hurt Arthurio I had to read that verrry slowly before it sank in.
I believe in giving respect to all things, as a matter of course without all this "earning" malarchy.
Those who look for monsters should look to it that
they do not become monsters. For when you gaze
long into the abyss, the abyss also gazes into you.
That's another matter Arthurio
It really depends on the actual situation, as you can imagine. Generally with me, respect can also be regained, but it will take time. The amount of time depending upon the person involved and the reasons for losing it in the first place.
I say this because unfortunately some members of the human race are rather nasty people. I am not joking, not all people are good as I once thought they were. Add to that the pitiful amount of time we have on this earth. I would rather spend my time and energy on people who are honest truthful and good.
Heh I've just re-read "honest truthful and good." and it does sound rather lame, but it is the best way for me to describe it at the moment. I say this because it would take quite a lot to break my respect in the first place.
quote:Respect is something that I will give straight away, a person can only lose my respect.
My sentiments exactly.
I confess, my recent posts have lacked maturity and self-mederation. It isn't that I lose control, but that I choose to; for that I apologise to all. This includes, wholeheartedly, Argo himself. That I'm susceptible to provocation (and have a terrible sense of mirth) I can neither excuse nor apologise for. My actions are mine alone to dictate and moderate, and for these, sincerely, I am sorry - it is disrespectful of all members of this forum, especially as I should have the wit and wisdom to know when to shut up.
I have always maintained that respect is something you lose...not something you earn. Nobody should have to prove that they deserve respect...but people sometimes demonstrate that they do *not* deserve it...
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quote: Tao said:
Actually....
Respect is something that I will give straight away, a person can only lose my respect.
quote:
I confess, my recent posts have lacked maturity and self-mederation. It isn't that I lose control, but that I choose to; for that I apologise to all. This includes, wholeheartedly, Argo himself. That I'm susceptible to provocation (and have a terrible sense of mirth) I can neither excuse nor apologise for
Amen. Respect is something I should rehearse as well, enough for tonight though.
Respect is about interpersonal exchange. Of which you are reponsible from the moment you enter it - as I am,
and this is pretty universal I think. But it doesn't start with words - not even with thoughts, rather with feelings.
Different things make different people bitter though.
Actually I think the definition of 'respect' is a little bit off topic here but whatever ...
Respect
1. esteem somebody or something: to feel or show admiration and deference toward somebody or something
2. not go against or violate something: to pay due attention to and refrain from violating something
3. be considerate toward somebody or something: to show consideration or thoughtfulness in relation to somebody or something
It also could be applied to taking care of oneself, others or the environment. It adds general reliability to social interactions. It enables people to work together in a complimentary fashion, instead of each person having to understand or even agree with each other every time. Respect is very important to communities because it helps people get along with other people.
Disrespect ?noun 1.lack of respect; discourtesy; rudeness. ?verb (used with object) 2.to regard or treat without respect; regard or treat with contempt or rudeness.
Another topic: having respect for and treating with respect.
Obviously there's a strong connection. However I think that even when no respect exists between two people using respectful means of communication is a matter of self-respect and -esteem. Could also be a matter of respect towards third parties who may be involved or observing.
From: Happy Hunting Grounds... Insane since: Mar 2001
posted 03-12-2008 11:03
quote:1. esteem somebody or something: to feel or show admiration and deference toward somebody or something
2. not go against or violate something: to pay due attention to and refrain from violating something
3. be considerate toward somebody or something: to show consideration or thoughtfulness in relation to somebody or something
Good point with the definitions.
I normally consider Respect to mean the 1st definition.
I did not consider the 3rd definition. I think this is what both Tao and DL-44 are taking into consideration.
I also agree with point 3 being given straight away.
I do NOT agree with point 1 being automatically given, however, as I stated. That must be earned, for me.
WebShaman | The keenest sorrow (and greatest truth) is to recognize ourselves as the sole cause of all our adversities.
- Sophocles
I don't know why I did not think of the definitions, Thanks Blaise you're right to point that out.
Yes you're right WebShaman I was thinking more of (2) and (3) than the first definition.
Flippin heck
So sorry Arthurio. I try to multitask and I fall flat on my face.
~sigh~ Oh dear
[edit] what does QFT mean?[edit]
[edit2] Ah ok I used those three or four brain cells I have left and googled it[/edit2]
heh Blaise is not even in the thread.
Karin, my mate, laughing her socks off as she's always amazed at how I just cannot multitask.
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It's like watching the clowns at the circus watching you make tea and toast.
Respect is something that I will give straight away, a person can only lose my respect.
I completely agree with Tao on this point.
It usually takes quite a lot for me to lose respect for someone and that is why it takes even more for it to be restored. Unfortunately, the more times I lose respect for people in my life the more they confirm how rare it is for them to care enough to patch things back up. But I always pray for reconciliation and hold out hope that one day they'll have that change of heart.
how about
'respect is earned through mutual respect'.
i would respect a person initially but if i do not get it back after a few times i would loose respect for that person.thus mutual respect is necessary.
In my opinion, there is no direct relation between respect and mutual respect.
If you respect others, you will get respects in return.
But if you disrespect others, you will never get respects.
I tend to or at least try to think of respect as something I do for myself, not for another person.
I like to think I'm polite, kind, etc. toward others regardless of how they treat me because that's the type of person I am. There might be people I dislike or don't care for but I try not to treat them any differently than anyone else.
quote:I say this because unfortunately some members of the human race are rather nasty people. I am not joking, not all people are good as I once thought they were. Add to that the pitiful amount of time we have on this earth. I would rather spend my time and energy on people who are honest truthful and good.
I respect everyone regardless if they seem to lack a respectful nature towards others and to themselves. I show them due respect as human even if they are nasty or are an undesirable. I never loose respect if ones actions are deemed not respectable. Many of those I know lie, could be shallow, selfish and mean spirited , not tolerant and have potty mouths. I still befriend them and associate with them. However, I may be dissappointed in how they act or what they do or say. But I never abandon them as friends or aquaintences. IMO ...many we know or do not personally know can seem respectable but have hidden defects that we may not know about that would be shocking, etc... so they may not be deserving of a title of being a respectable upstanding individual. But as far a treating them with respect regardless that is another thing altogether.
posted 03-11-2008 23:40
I had to read that verrry slowly before it sank in.
lol
