My favorite part: When the tour guide addresses an evolutionary point and tells the kids to mimic him in asking the question, "How do you know?" Yet, he never instructs them to ask the question of the people who can actually answer it, as if asking the question itself is an adequate rebuttal.
Their reasoning on the T-Rex issue is kind of confusing: "If this dinosaur was designed to eat meat from the very beginning, what would he have to do before Eve ate the apple? Fast and pray for the Fall! Does that seem very likely?"
Uh, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that begging the question?
Of course, Nightline's arguments aren't flawless either. When the young creationists talk about people living for eight or nine hundred years, and then they say that there were seven generations of these people, Nightline shows a chalkboard graphic with "800 years X 7 generations = 5,600 years."
What moron came up with this calculation? A generation these days is considered to be roughly twenty years or so, but this doesn't mean that people live to the age of twenty and die. Even if people did live to be eight hundred years old, it is very unlikely that they would be having children for all eight hundred of those years (or for even most of that time). Even if you extended the child-bearing age to one hundred years old, you could still easily fit seven generations in a thousand years. I'm not necessarily trying to argue this point, I'm just saying that the simple error here kind of makes Nightline look stupid. I'm sure not a few scientists cringed when they saw that.
From: The Happy Hunting Grounds... Insane since: Mar 2001
posted 04-04-2008 10:08
Propaganda and brainwashing for the children - the way the Church and Religion propagates itself (along with a number of even less palatable practices).
Why is it that just having personal belief is not enough?
That should be the perennial question!
I have yet to see or hear of a Pastor, Preacher, etc that says "all that I say may not be true, there may not actually be a God. There is no evidence that there is one, it is just my Belief, and it is just as likely that Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy, and the Flying Spaghetti Monster are as real as the God I speak of".
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All the headlines tell us that the UK isn't far behind...
The article I read yesterday (don't have a link handy at the moment) claimed that the US was behind only Turkey in "believing evolution though.....
Yikes.
Can't watch the video atm...will when I get home...
The whole idea of T-Rex eating vegetables is total bullshit.
Anyone who has seen a T-Rex skeleton will quickly realize the arms were much too short to toss a salad.
On a more serious, note they claim Jesus was the creator of everything. So it means the first coming was actually the second coming? I don't get that part.
quote:On a more serious, note they claim Jesus was the creator of everything. So it means the first coming was actually the second coming? I don't get that part.
That's because Jesus = God = Santa Claus = the tooth fairy = the sasquash = the Celestial Teapot = the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
The buddy Jesus came only once, but that was just one of the many faces of our lord and savior the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
quote: poi said:
Jesus = God = Santa Claus = the tooth fairy = ...
We don't need to get into all that ...
OT: I saw a show on discovery science where they concluded that t-rex wasn't a predator, not a herbivore either obviously, but a scavenger. A big, smelly and ugly one at that.
quote:On a more serious, note they claim Jesus was the creator of everything. So it means the first coming was actually the second coming? I don't get that part.That's because Jesus = God = Santa Claus = the tooth fairy = the sasquash = the Celestial Teapot = the Flying Spaghetti Monster.The buddy Jesus came only once, but that was just one of the many faces of our lord and savior the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
I have to disagree forcefully, there is no geological or other evidence to substantiate your claims. How would you explain the Easter Bunny for example?
I love how they show the guides *literally* turning their backs to the radio carbon dating display while they talk about how there is nothing but circular reasoning used in fossil dating techniques....and then justify it in the interview by saying "well, we can't cover everything..."
And of course, how can you even pretend to be doing something educational, and promoting critical thinking, when the whole time you are simply telling children to repeat your answers without question?
Personally ... long discussions with strong Christian believers at a young age were what turned me away from religion for real. It was relatively easy for me (a 11 year old at the time) to see their error. So it's relative. Maybe contact with those idiots will make some of those kids open their eyes.
OMG!
This is actually physically painful, my stomach hurt.
I don't find it even remotley funny, to me there are no difference at all to be found between these fundamentalists and the religious fundamentalists in the middle east. With a slightly different upbringing they would probably blow up the museums and other scientific institutions to solve the "problem" with the competition.
Then take that image posted above http://www.newscientist.com/data/images/archive/2565/25653701.jpg and do the mindgame with an election process where a candidate uses those beliefs, 25% voters bagged directly, then an additional 20% undecided that can be won with argumentation tecniques and a few more % gained through "normal election promises"...
"Probably" won't happen, but I'd leave the planet and taking my kids with me ...
I'm sad and scared...
/Dan
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posted 04-04-2008 06:29
