Topic: Safari / Windows

Hello there,

Have you tried Safari for Windows? What are your thoughts?

Well, as for myself, a Windows user only, have never tried Safari till now, and so far , I enjoy its interface and the feel of it.

But as a first glance, looking at the task manager, safari takes around 150mb just by running it and opening no pages at all.

What are your thoughts about it?

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Regards,
Elias

I tried Safari 3 and installed Safari 4 developer preview 2 recently. Obviously I have specific needs and standards. It's a fast browser with a good rendering engine and a nice debugger. Some times though it lags to load a page. And of course being based on webkit it does really weird sh*t with Canvas ( a real pain in the neck for me ). And feature wise ... well I'm really looking for them. Can't see any "real", let alone semi-advanced, feature. And it's barely if at all customizable. It is waaaaay too basic for me to consider even as a secondary browser. I only use it for testing. Nothing more.

It's useful to have for development, but I'm not a fan, it uses far too much memory as does other Apple software on Windows (iTunes), I'm also not a fan of the Anti-aliasing it uses, I believe it should be controlled by the OS, not the application.

When I use a Mac I still use Firefox, it's just much more powerful for development.

P01: Are there flash on those pages? I've noticed that WebKit has noticable problems with Flash, and that Flash often runs much, much smoother in one of the other netscape plugin API browsers. I've also noticed Flash peg the CPU sometimes in Google Chrome as well. (It's easier to see that the true source of the problem is the Flash plugin in Chrome - on the other hand, some of those troubles may be Chrome specific.)

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I avoid it largely off the fact that Apple keeps trying to get me to install it. They kept offering it as an 'update' to go along with iTunes, but now they have it in its own "new software!" section of Apple updater... automatically selected, so that the unwary will install it. It took me a good couple of hours to remove its claws from my father's computer after it snuck itself onto the system.

Oh and as Skaarj, I *HATE* Apple's update mechanism. I specifically opted out QuickTime, iTune and Bonjour whatever when I installed Safari. And the bugger keeps checking them by default in the software update. Screw you.

liorean: can't say I've browsed (normally) enough with it to figure exactly if plugins/Flash were the culprit.

Well, after two days of using it, I really love the way it looks...I don't like IE's or FF's look anymore.

Anyway, if you happen to have a windows version (say chinese) and want to run Safari/Win in English, all you have to do, is simply:

Unofficially change language

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Quit Safari
Go to your "Safari\Safari.resources"-folder
Search your language folder and either delete or rename it
Start Safari again and it should now be in English

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Regards,
Elias

I have to admit that I've yet to find a browser that's remotely as fast and easy-to-use as FF. I'm massively with Blaise there - the anti-aliasing really gets on my nerves. My office comp runs W2k (no AA whatsoever, CT first came with XP, hmph!), and our devs installed Safari in a sort of test environment. It looks really horrible.

Aside from the looks, I don't really find it too comfortable or safe in comparison to the rest of the competition. So it's a no-no for me at this point.

for me safari on windows ( as the itunes browser) is terribly slow.

Flik, well, have you tried Opera? it beats FF's speed.

Speaking of that...anybody's experimenting with google chrome?

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Regards,
Elias

I'm using saf/ff/ch every day. Op and ie8 at least a few times a week. Chrome lacks a lot when it comes to UI and also tends to crash a bit more often than any other browser recently. (The cause is Flash for every crash so far. Flash is not safe in the each-tab-and-plugin-it's-own-process browser model yet, it seems.) On the other hand it beats the ie8 UI for most commonly done things, so it's not quite the worst around.

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Hi Liorean,

I am using Chrome for casual web research and browsing.

And yes, it lacks alot of basic things.

You are right regarding crashing, sometimes flash sometimes when it tries to open mediaplayer files.

But what I like about Chrome, is the ability to take a tab and make it a separate window! You'ld appreciate that alot if you work with two or more monitors.

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Regards,
Elias

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But what I like about Chrome, is the ability to take a tab and make it a separate window! You'ld appreciate that alot if you work with two or more monitors.

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Opera and Safari have had that for years.

oops, thanks for the tip I only learned about in chrome because i watched their video.

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Regards,
Elias