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Elias,

Look, WebShaman! This thread is OLD! It's taking up space. You better close it.

MR that's enough out of you. Is that loud and clear enough for you? Don't get on my nerves, boy.

A bit of humor is always welcome...esp. in times like these. Also, that entire website wasn't posted here...just a link...got that, too? See, and learn...and maybe, laugh a bit.


WebShaman

I take it you've sobered up WS .

Hi! My name is WebShaman and I like drawing lines.

Morgan, you have been warned in the past. And I'll tell you now that you are about the only one here who finds your inane little comments funny.

If you choose to be an adult about it, email WebShaman and tell him why you haven't violated copyright and he'll consider re-opening your thread. If you're not going to be an adult about it...

So MR, you not only made a rather lengthy and pointless thread but now your going around to other peoples threads (four of them so far) trying to pick a fight?

Someone give this guy a medal for stupidly. I'd suggest a frontal lobotomy but I doubt it'll actually have any noticeable effect.

Morgan...you are by far one of the most, petty, childish, annoying, stuck up, propaganda swallowing little fuckwits I have ever had the pleasure to turn my nose up at. I spurn you as I would spurn as rabid dog.

I'm appaled at how childishly you respond ot any kind of challenge...are you still in kindergarten or something?

Becuase, by god...you act like it.

Define "adult" oh wise one. I have no intention of wasting e-mail space with WebShaman since he doesn't have the head for moderating the forums... He spelled copyright wrong too and at the sight of him claiming that I violated copyright by posting documents clearly marked with the authors' names... he's shown he knows little about the issue. Therefore, I figure I'll just annoy everyone since most of you have received me now and in the past with condescension. This isn't a very pleasant place to be with people who are way too insecure and way too uptight.

Some of you constantly tell me I should be more tolerant of others' views. Well, the incident of WebShaman closing my thread is an VIVID picture of what type of tolerance y'all expect from me. So I should be tolerant of your views but you're not tolerant of mine? Oh, and what's with the assuming that I presented my views in that thread? Nonsense. Rubbish. BOLLOCKS! I posted the documents for this community's reference and for their pleasure. Hell, if you don't like what IRAQIS have to say about THEIR HOMELAND... what right do you have to judge them and tell them they're wrong to want Saddam gone? Arrogance is your trait then.

What's next, WebShaman? Are you going to ban me, big man? C'mon! I dare ya.

Propaganda swallowing? ROFL!!!!!!!! Gee, were you one of those 6 million liberal idiots running-a-muck the streets toting your little signs of anti-war? I already posted a link to my views and if you think my views originate from propaganda... you have your sources fucked.

Ok...

Look! it's the quote tag...isn't that amazing!

From Dictionary.com

quote:

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a·dult
adj.

Fully developed and mature

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See those words?

Fully developed and mature...both required to fit the definition of adult, and your actions are far from mature.

And here for your viewing pleasure again is the quote tag:

The following quote comes from this article: http://www.amfed.org/a_copyfact.htm written by John Betts

quote:

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Misconception #3:
I credited the original club that published the article, therefore we are legal.

Fact:
Giving credit is not a substitute for getting permission. You must contact the author in advance and get permission. For your protection you should get permission in writing or email.

--Copyright Law: Facts and Fantasy, John Betts, 1999

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Oh, and before you try and be a smartarse and pick me up on violating copyright by putting that quote there, I invite you to read the copyright notice at the bottom of the article, where you will find this lovely little line:

quote:

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Permission is given by the author for reprinting with attribution to the author. -- Copyright notice of 'Copyright Law: Facts and Fantasy, John Betts, 1999

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That's where you've violated copyright Morgan, and in the future before you tell people to go research things, try doing a bit of research yourself.

Honestly MR, I couldn't give a rats arse what your views or opinions are. Your attitude alone makes me think your a fuckwit without bringing any political agenda into the equation. But if we must, the fact that you just labelled 6 million people, including myself, as "liberal idiots" simply goes to prove your arrogance. You have very little idea who I am or what my views are. Yes I am currently opposed to any actions of war but beyond that you know dick about me. If you really want to press the issue I'd be more than happy to, but not before you can prove that having a conversation with you won't be a complete fucking waste of my time.

As for WS not knowing his copyright issues, might I fill you in to the fact that he's done a great deal of research on copyright laws for the RipperReport website and probably knows more about these issues that most of the members here. So unless you can link to any documentation proving that you aren't in infringement or your a copyright lawyer yourself, I'd have to side with his views.

[This message has been edited by Dracusis (edited 02-17-2003).]

How do you know I've violated copyright when you can't even find the articles? If you want to debate US policy and invading Iraq, you can spar with me here and it won't be a waste of time as long you can keep your head on straight, post with objectivity, back your statements with facts, and avoid name calling. I get enough of that little sin around here.

[This message has been edited by Morgan Ramsay (edited 02-17-2003).]

Hehe...yeah, InSiDeR...sober...sorry bout that *sheepish grin*

MR, you have been warned enough...reap what you sow. As for name calling? Haven't done any of that...so I'm not sure what you are making a reference to. I'm also not even remotely interested in sparing with you. And I'm not interested in that website, either. I am interested, in doing my job.

Maybe you need to read up on Copywrite Protection here is a quote out of it (applies in your case)

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If it is an essay, if it is a play, if it is a song, if it is a funky original dance move, if it is a photograph, HTML coding or a computer graphic that can be set on paper, recorded on tape or saved to a hard drive, it may be protected. Copyright laws grant the creator the exclusive right to reproduce, prepare derivative works, distribute, perform and display the work publicly. Exclusive means only the creator of such work, not anybody who has access to it and decides to grab it.

When does Copyright Protection begin, and what is required?

Copyright protection begins when any of the above described work is actually created and fixed in a tangible form.

For example, my brother is a musician and he lives in the United States. When he writes new lyrics, he prints them out on paper, signs his name at the bottom with the Copyright © symbol to show that he is the author, places it in an envelope and mails it to himself without opening it. His copyright begins at the moment he puts his idea in a tangible form by printing the lyrics out on paper. He creates proof when he mails it to himself - the postmark establishes the date of creation. He then registers his copyright with the U.S. Copyright Office which is a requirement in order to sue for monetary damages should a violation of his copyright arise. However, if somebody copies and redistributes his lyrics without permission before his copyright is registered, he still has the right to assert a copyright claim as the true author.

The above applies to digital art and graphics. Open a gif or jpg file that you created and look at the properties. It states the date that you saved it to your hard drive as the date of creation. If somebody copies a graphic from your web site I assure you that the date of creation on your copy of the file is earlier than the copy taken off your web site. If that still doesn't feel like enough proof for you, save everything to a floppy disk and mail it to yourself via certified mail. Keep the envelope sealed, wrap it in protective plastic and put it in a safe place.

Somebody once asked if it was "illegal" to place the copyright © symbol next to your name if you have not registered your copyright. Unless you have stolen the work from somebody else and you are not the true author of the work, it is not illegal to place the copyright © symbol next to your name - it is your right to do so.

The proper way to place a copyright notice is as follows: Copyright © (first date of creation) (name of owner). Like this: Copyright © 2002 John Smith.

--What is Copywrite - Busniss Network Services

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So...without quotes, you are violating copywrite.



[This message has been edited by WebShaman (edited 02-17-2003).]

Can't find what articles? http://www.defenddemocracy.org/templ/display.cfm?id=247&Sub=336

[This message has been edited by Dracusis (edited 02-17-2003).]

Dracusis I could kiss you...I was looking for those myself with little success.

Pretty cool, Dracusis. Thanks! By the way, when you're involved in politics and speak to or for the public on public issues, a "free use property" is bestowed upon your words.

WebShaman, why are you bitching about the [quote] tags? That reminds me of when I posted the Bomb Iraq parody song to 921radio.com and everyone was upset because I did use the [quote] tags. When an article is given proper credit, most commonly by the line "by [author's name]", that's the equivalent of [quote] tags. And did Boudga have permission from the parody song author to post the lyrics?

Here's a link to the letter from the young Iraqi. http://www.opendemocracy.net/debates/article.jsp?id=2&debateId=88&articleId=983 I didn't know most of these were on the Internet otherwise maybe I would have posted the URLs in that thread. WebShaman was too hasty with his biased actions.

[This message has been edited by Morgan Ramsay (edited 02-17-2003).]

In regards to the Opera Baby topic, I thought it was humorous.

I am through explaining this here...I said, take it to mail!! Are you not able to understand that?

God I'm getting sick of this...

Bye Bye

Sorry, I just wanted to open this up to address this...

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He creates proof when he mails it to himself - the postmark establishes the date of creation.

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This is a long-standing myth that is, obviously, still perpetuated.

The only thing it proves is when you mailed the envelope. You can mail empty envelopes to yourself and stuff them when necessary. Won't hold up in court.

The best way to prove the date of a work's copyright is just to register it with the U.S. Copyright Office.

BTW, and I hate to correct people's spelling ? at least people I like ? but it's copyright, as in the "right" over the "copy." (Additionally, the past tense is copyrighted; there is no such word as copywritten. Didn't see it used here, but I've seen it used plenty ? even on sites claiming to be legitimate sources of copyright information.)

Now, enough of me.