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Tyberius Prime Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist with Finglongers From: Germany Insane since: Sep 2001	posted 08-17-2003 22:10 For the Win32 API there was the good old Petzold... big, heavy, and ideal to soak up everything one needed to know. Meaning I'm looking for something comprehensive, and on a quite high level (no, I don't want to do a) a console hello world, b) a window hello world, c) a network hello world). I'm more interested in seeing at least 80% of the .net framework used in the book... maybe some of you have already read some c# books, and tell me wether they liked 'em or not. (though I got strong opinions: if it got 'in x days in the title', I won't buy it. nor will I buy it if there're more than 2 authors ;-).) thanks, Tyberius Prime
jdauie Bipolar (III) Inmate From: Missoula, MT Insane since: Jan 2003	posted 08-17-2003 23:09 TP: How much are you familiar with c# already? The syntax is much like Java/C++, with some capitalization differences, etc. (and of course, c# uses the .NET framework, as you already know). I have seen some good Deitel & Deitel books, but I think those are focused on comprehensive learning for beginners (I don't know if you consider yourself a beginner in that area). I generally just learn everything online, because I can't afford to buy a bunch of $85 books. Let us know if you find a good one. soli deo gloria
Tyberius Prime Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist with Finglongers From: Germany Insane since: Sep 2001	posted 08-21-2003 13:25 well, what I really want is a structured introduction to the framework and the IL. the syntax is pretty much basic APL, no huhu there, but the classes you use for daily use are usually pretty hard to soak up just from the documentation. Anyhow, I shelved out 30 bucks for 'Inside C#' and some other c# book on amazon... (used copies, much cheaper), and am quite happy with them, although I haven't much progress further than the intro ;-)
jdauie Bipolar (III) Inmate From: Missoula, MT Insane since: Jan 2003	posted 08-21-2003 17:15 If you really want to know the .NET framework, I think the best thing is the documentation that comes with Visual Studio .NET. That is what I used to learn it. You just open up the Help Index and start with the root namespaces and just recurse through everything. All the classes/etc have descriptions and examples with listings of the methods and properties, related classes, parent classes, and child classes. soli deo gloria

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Tyberius Prime
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Germany
Insane since: Sep 2001

posted 08-17-2003 22:10

For the Win32 API there was the good old Petzold... big, heavy, and ideal to soak up everything one needed to know.

Meaning I'm looking for something comprehensive, and on a quite high level (no, I don't want to do a) a console hello world, b) a window hello world, c) a network hello world).
I'm more interested in seeing at least 80% of the .net framework used in the book...

maybe some of you have already read some c# books, and tell me wether they liked 'em or not.

(though I got strong opinions: if it got 'in x days in the title', I won't buy it. nor will I buy it if there're more than 2 authors ;-).)

thanks,

Tyberius Prime

jdauie
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Missoula, MT
Insane since: Jan 2003

posted 08-17-2003 23:09

TP: How much are you familiar with c# already?

The syntax is much like Java/C++, with some capitalization differences, etc. (and of course, c# uses the .NET framework, as you already know).
I have seen some good Deitel & Deitel books, but I think those are focused on comprehensive learning for beginners (I don't know if you consider yourself a beginner in that area). I generally just learn everything online, because I can't afford to buy a bunch of $85 books.

Let us know if you find a good one.

soli deo gloria

Tyberius Prime
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Germany
Insane since: Sep 2001

posted 08-21-2003 13:25

well, what I really want is a structured introduction to the framework and the IL.
the syntax is pretty much basic APL, no huhu there, but the classes you use for daily use are usually pretty hard to soak up just from the documentation.

Anyhow, I shelved out 30 bucks for 'Inside C#' and some other c# book on amazon... (used copies, much cheaper), and am quite happy with them, although I haven't much progress further than the intro ;-)

jdauie
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Missoula, MT
Insane since: Jan 2003

posted 08-21-2003 17:15

If you really want to know the .NET framework, I think the best thing is the documentation that comes with Visual Studio .NET. That is what I used to learn it. You just open up the Help Index and start with the root namespaces and just recurse through everything. All the classes/etc have descriptions and examples with listings of the methods and properties, related classes, parent classes, and child classes.

soli deo gloria