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WarMage
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Rochester, New York, USA
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 02-16-2004 05:25

I think that it might be a good time for a little reminder about good etiquette when within the Ozone Asylum forum. The Asylum is much like a family, and as with many families there are periodic bouts with one another, as well as many very heated debates. In this online community it is easy to forget many of the rules that we adhere to in real life, by placing ourselves in a very different mindset.

The mindset that we would appreciate if you left behind is one that involves emmotions along the lines of, revenge, hate, malice, and many of the other lesser emotions. When you agree to partake in communication in an online arena it is very easy to forget that you should leave these emotions behind. It might not be stated directly any place in the Asylum that these emotions should be left out, but it is implied by the people who visit this forum by the context, as well as the gross majority of the discussion that does take place here.

This does not mean that all shows of powerful negitive emotion should not be displayed here, but your negitive emotions should be put into a creative medium, do not waste the effort creating a "flame war." This also does not mean that one should not disagree with another individual. In a creative enviornment disagreement should not only exist but it should be fostered as a method of learning and improving of your abilities. The act of learning about contrary ideas and either disproving or proving them for yourself is a very powerful creative act. What this is saying is that your disagreements should be acted up in a manner that fits your station, and your enviornment.

The Asylum contains many different people from many walks of life. It is often used as a meeting place, and a place of learning, and sharing. It is much like a school in that aspect. It is also very much like a business, where many professionals come to practice their trade. This means that you should communicate with the other members as if you were in a school or in a business enviornment.

I ask for professionalism from every member of the asylum.

This boils down to a single idea that you should think of before you post, which is, "does this post work towards the betterment of the Asylum?" If you can answer yet to that question then you should make the post, if not, you should take a moment to revise your post so that it does.

The finer points of this argument are much like what you would expect in group conversation, in real life, and even infantile in simplicity.

1) Do not make any post which contains only negitive information. Even a harsh critisism should have positive information as a way to help one improve.
2) You are your posts. In the asylum every post you make further defines who you are to those in the asylum. Work to keep a positive self image.
3) Be the better person. If someone breaks rule number one, do not feel it is you duty to follow along the same path. Turn the negitive positive or ignore the remark.

Always remember:
"Argue with idiots, and you become and idiot."

It is not necessary that you are always nice to your fellow asylumites. But it is necessary to stay away from creating posts with no redeaming value.

This place was founded with the ideal of creating a gathering place of those with great talent in the field of web design so that we may all learn and improve from one another. Try your hardest to keep that though alive and to keep this place great.

-Dan-

Taobaybee
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: The Pool Of Life
Insane since: Feb 2003

posted posted 02-16-2004 06:13

Thanks WarMage. It's always good to be reminded of these things. I wont blather on about how much I agree with you, but agree with you I do.

Bugimus
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: New California
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 02-16-2004 06:23

~Bugs applies support and affirmation here~

SPyX
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: College Station, TX
Insane since: Aug 2002

posted posted 02-16-2004 06:38

I prefer: "Never argue with idiots. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience."

$.02

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Alevice
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Mexico
Insane since: Dec 2002

posted posted 02-16-2004 07:33

Thats just load of bullshit and I hope you die a horrible and undescriptable death.

You suck as much as this forum anyway. hahahahahahah

And you are wrong if you think i need less caffeine and more sleep ;D

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Sexy Demoness cel

poi
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: France
Insane since: Jun 2002

posted posted 02-16-2004 08:18

The Asylum should behave like a real family an put these rules on the door of the fridge

Cameron
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Brisbane
Insane since: Jan 2003

posted posted 02-16-2004 08:21

*pats alevice on the head*

Someone needs more medication… or a night locked in a cellar with emps and a tube of lubricant. Either one should do the trick.

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Thanks for the reminder WarMage. Although I should add that no one is perfect. At times things will go a little too far and we'll occasionally over step our mark. As long as we realise our mistakes and make an effort to remedy them in some fashion, as you would in real life, everything should be more or less peachy.

viol
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Charles River
Insane since: May 2002

posted posted 02-16-2004 08:30

Nice and appropriate words for the moment.
My only concern is: is it possible to an idiot to recognize itself as an idiot?

InI
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Somewhere over the rainbow
Insane since: Mar 2001

posted posted 02-16-2004 09:27

The poster has demanded we remove all his contributions, less he takes legal action.
We have done so.
Now Tyberius Prime expects him to start complaining that we removed his 'free speech' since this message will replace all of his posts, past and future.
Don't follow his example - seek real life help first.

Wolfen
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Minnesota
Insane since: Jan 2001

posted posted 02-16-2004 10:48

I know that I do not really post what is on my mind all that much, but I think that, as an old timer here to the asylum, I think I should put in my .02.

I have been here quite some time, lurking on the boards for about 2 years and then posting for the last 2 and a half. I have tried to help out this place, giving advice, asking questions, helping others and try to infuse this place with a bit of humor. (Much like a security guard, always watching over the area.) While all this time there are things that I have noticed.

This place is real relaxed. Relaxed in ways of demeanor, rule enforcement, and conversation. In most ways this place is still formal, but many of us regulars do know quite a bit about each other, no matter if it is on these here boards, in private messages or even in person. I think that there is a certain amount of trust when it comes to each other, including between the most abrasive personalities. Of course if there is something wrong or if someone is in error, that problem is quickly remedied. Every once in a while there is someone that can cause a problem, but there are a few of us that are not afraid to let that person know how we feel about that behavior.

To me, this place is alot of fun. I enjoy sharing information with quite a few artists and having a good laugh. Even at times I think this place is a bit theraputic too. I had once posted a few personal rants on here on personal problems that I had a while back. It is good to see the support that others give here, if one needs proof, look at the 'Pugzly' thread. It does feel much like a family, and I feel honored at times to be able to talk to so many others on both a personal and professional level. This place is informational, educational and entertaining with the wild ideas and crazy personalities here. (That is why this place is called 'The Asylum'.) You guys here have helped me and others during some bad times. (should say thanks guys!)

Though I admit that it is good to remind others about etiquette, I still like the looseness about this place. That is why I love to visit here.

[This message has been edited by Wolfen (edited 02-16-2004).]

Boudga
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Jacks raging bile duct....
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 02-16-2004 13:25

I like this place cause everyone is just as certifiably crazy as me, myself, and I...

moaiz
Maniac (V) Inmate

From:
Insane since: Nov 2000

posted posted 02-16-2004 15:27

I just think What Would Optimus Prime Do? before I post something nasty so I can hold my tongue. Of course this also keeps me under 1000 posts...If you dont have anything nice to say....

InI
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Somewhere over the rainbow
Insane since: Mar 2001

posted posted 02-16-2004 15:33

The poster has demanded we remove all his contributions, less he takes legal action.
We have done so.
Now Tyberius Prime expects him to start complaining that we removed his 'free speech' since this message will replace all of his posts, past and future.
Don't follow his example - seek real life help first.

WarMage
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Rochester, New York, USA
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 02-16-2004 16:17

Hopefully I can get in here before all hope is lost. The above post is not designed to keep people complacent, nor to inhibit you from posting your feelings.

Disagreement does not necessarly involve negitivity.
Arguement does not necessarly involve negitivity.

Both of the above are necessary.

What is not needed is,

"You stupid cock sucker, your wrong and I'm right"
"Piss off asshole"
"Fuck you"

Posts that boil down to the above, are the type of posts that I was loosely refering too, and I am sure you can come up with far more examples than I might be able to.

Posts along the lines of

"I stab eye in the eye"
"Kicks emps in the nutz"

Those are also good posts and should continue, as that is furthering the fun and humor of the place. They have a redeaming value. The previous does not have one unless we are in a thread about your favorite curse words or phrases.

Further, the general Asylum feeling is still very good, there is much learning and communication taking place, however, there is a small faction who slip into the negitive when coaxed. This should be avoided.

And if all else fails ask yourself:

"What would DL-44 do."
or
"What would MikeyMilker do."
or
"What would Twitch do."

I by far appreciate the DL-44 approach, but you can choose your own method of caustic critism as long as it will lead to something learned in the end.

-Dan-

InI
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Somewhere over the rainbow
Insane since: Mar 2001

posted posted 02-16-2004 16:46

The poster has demanded we remove all his contributions, less he takes legal action.
We have done so.
Now Tyberius Prime expects him to start complaining that we removed his 'free speech' since this message will replace all of his posts, past and future.
Don't follow his example - seek real life help first.

WarMage
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Rochester, New York, USA
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 02-16-2004 17:26

My girlfriend has been using "dickhole" a lot lately it is wonderfully offensive.

-Dan-

mas
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: the space between us
Insane since: Sep 2002

posted posted 02-16-2004 22:06

i think we should add WarMage's three "rules" to the reception room...

Tyberius Prime
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Germany
Insane since: Sep 2001

posted posted 02-16-2004 22:35

it's a wiki ~mas~ do it yourself

Emperor
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Cell 53, East Wing
Insane since: Jul 2001

posted posted 02-16-2004 22:54

mas: Yep what TP says - I'd suggest putting it in its own FAQ and linking to it or putting it in a subsection of the reception room.

Now the serious matter:

quote:
"Kicks emps in the nutz"



(as there is no 'eyes crossing while going green slimie").

quote:
Those are also good posts and should continue,



If that kind of thing continues there will be Hell Toupee!!

quote:
as that is furthering the fun and humor of the place. They have a redeaming value.



So there is humour and redeeming value in my getting hoofed in the family jewels eh?

Don't make me reach for the fish.

___________________
Emps

The Emperor dot org

reitsma
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: the bigger bedroom
Insane since: Oct 2000

posted posted 02-16-2004 23:16

personally, i wonder how far we could go if each member, every time they posted, would:

1) Read the entire thread first.
2) Write what they want in a new post.
3) Read what they wrote, preferably twice, and checked it for usefulness. (Am i actually making a valid point here?)
4) If you feel it does matter, post it.
5) Re-read the post in the thread, in context.

I would say that for every three or four posts i do make, there's one post that i've started that i decide not to make. What you don't say can contribute just as much to your reputation as what you do say.

reitsma

docilebob
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: buttcrack of the midwest
Insane since: Oct 2000

posted posted 02-17-2004 00:09

Well said Warmage/reitsma.

~golf clap~

Rinswind 2th
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Den Haag: The Royal Residence
Insane since: Jul 2000

posted posted 02-17-2004 00:24
quote:
..unless we are in a thread about your favorite curse words or phrases...


Now here that would be fun...

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finally: www.rinswind.nl

Taobaybee
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: The Pool Of Life
Insane since: Feb 2003

posted posted 02-17-2004 02:31

'Specially for you Emps

InI
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Somewhere over the rainbow
Insane since: Mar 2001

posted posted 02-18-2004 10:07

The poster has demanded we remove all his contributions, less he takes legal action.
We have done so.
Now Tyberius Prime expects him to start complaining that we removed his 'free speech' since this message will replace all of his posts, past and future.
Don't follow his example - seek real life help first.

WarMage
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Rochester, New York, USA
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 02-18-2004 19:09

Ini, I think you take general posts a bit to much to heart. Most post are not directed at an individual unless they are specifically addressed to you. Especially since this thread was aimed at the general audiance.

And I must say that we can not know you as a person here. We only know Ini as what he posts. In that light you as the person are not your post count, because you are much more than that, but you as "Ini" in the asylum are your post count, or more specifically the content of all the posts that are reflected in the post count. (Note: this was aimed at the general audiance and not Ini in particular)

(Note: the following is to Ini in particular)
It seems to have been a while since the doc has been here, but I have spent a whole lot of time reading much of what the Doc has written while he was here often. So this will sound a lot like a gospel of the words of Doc Ozone, taken in spirit and not written verbatim, if you search the archieves you will surely find many posts which reflect the idea.

This forum was designed to be critical of other peoples work, very critical, the reason this site had so much meaning is because you could come here and present your work and expect it to be torn apart and shreaded. You came here hoping your feelings would be hurt when presenting your work, and through the critism you would learn how to improve. In many many posts you would here the same refrain, "If you are coming here looking for a pat on the back you came to the wrong place, go to some other forum for that."

With that in mind when you present your work in front of the Asylum audience you should expect to have your feelings hurt. And sometimes it will really hurt, and if you can't except that and say "That is a good point I will look into that." and then go off and make improvements you are in the wrong place. You can even feel that the people are wrong, and you can tell them why you feel they are wrong, and this might help them learn as well.

But what is not expected is that when your work get criticized that you will take huge offense and go on a garlous spree, distaining those who gave you a caustic review because your feeling were hurt. There are many feelings that get tossed around in here, because we are showing off our work and creativity, if you can't deal with the negitive along with the positive you should not place your work off to be viewed.

There are very few who have visited this place and created works of art that deserve only praise, you will notice that even works done by the Doc recieve critism that is not always flattering, although it tends to be that most of his stuff is just so amazing that we can't find many faults with it, so only the good seems to spew forth.

Now ending it off, I can not comment on your history, as I can not comment on the post history of most of the people here in the Asylum, a few I have a pretty good idea about because when the asylum was young I got very familiar with the works and styles of the few members that were here, but now I can't say that. When I respond in a thread it is normally only taking into account the content of the thread in particular. So my response here is only to what you have written in this thread, and has no bearing on the history of your posts. From what you wrote in this post is appears that you are placing weight on what has been said to your past posting history, which I can not comment on, because I honestly don't remember much of it. Much the same as I don't remember much of what is written by who in the asylum any more.

(Back to writting to the general populus)
After writing this I feel a bit of nostalgia. I miss a lot of the people who used to post here.
Doc Cyber
All Good and Ma
TwoWinsPapa
Dark Garden
Weadah
Twitch
Jestah
MikeMilker
and many others who's post count is now so low as I can't see there names, and wouldn't remember their glory without getting the name reminder.

This place has a very long history, and I am glad I could be a part of it.

-Dan-

InI
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Somewhere over the rainbow
Insane since: Mar 2001

posted posted 02-18-2004 19:26

The poster has demanded we remove all his contributions, less he takes legal action.
We have done so.
Now Tyberius Prime expects him to start complaining that we removed his 'free speech' since this message will replace all of his posts, past and future.
Don't follow his example - seek real life help first.

reitsma
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: the bigger bedroom
Insane since: Oct 2000

posted posted 02-19-2004 00:59

ini - nope, none of that was intended for you in particular.

and to discuss some of the matters you raised - ini as an asylumnite can have an entirely different reputation to ini as a human bean. That's the fun of the asylum, where your reputation isn't anywhere near as affected by your appearance, age, gender or race.

It is, however, affected by your grammar, spelling abilities, restraint (or lack thereof), and 'poetic' writing abilities.



reitsma

DL-44
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: under the bed
Insane since: Feb 2000

posted posted 02-19-2004 05:34

I think this can all be summed up with two simple phrases:

1) - Leave your baggage at the door.

2) - Your mommy lied to you: you are not special.

And no....this isn't pointed at anyone, and if you feel it is, re-read number 2...

Wolfen
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Minnesota
Insane since: Jan 2001

posted posted 02-19-2004 09:16

DL-44: I perfer this one... 'Your special, just like everybody else.'

WarMage
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Rochester, New York, USA
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 02-19-2004 21:02

reitsma: Now I figured out why noone likes me here. I fail everyone of your criterian

-Dan-

InI
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Somewhere over the rainbow
Insane since: Mar 2001

posted posted 02-19-2004 21:20

The poster has demanded we remove all his contributions, less he takes legal action.
We have done so.
Now Tyberius Prime expects him to start complaining that we removed his 'free speech' since this message will replace all of his posts, past and future.
Don't follow his example - seek real life help first.

UnknownComic
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Los Angeles
Insane since: Nov 2003

posted posted 02-19-2004 21:44
quote:
2) - Your mommy lied to you: you are not special.



Fuck YOU!

I am special.

But on the other hand, I am glad you parsed this thread into two succint sentences. I glanced through a couple of the other posters messages and was wondering why people are kicking Emps in the Nuts?

Ha ha... Funny as it might be [LOL... still chuckling] what does that have to do with Ettiquette?

Does this somehow relate to Suho's Tentacle Porn?

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Is This Thing On?

Bleah...

Alevice
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Mexico
Insane since: Dec 2002

posted posted 02-19-2004 22:15

"My mommy says I am special. Dad just calls me gay"

:P

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Sexy Demoness cel

InI
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Somewhere over the rainbow
Insane since: Mar 2001

posted posted 02-19-2004 22:17

The poster has demanded we remove all his contributions, less he takes legal action.
We have done so.
Now Tyberius Prime expects him to start complaining that we removed his 'free speech' since this message will replace all of his posts, past and future.
Don't follow his example - seek real life help first.

InI
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Somewhere over the rainbow
Insane since: Mar 2001

posted posted 02-19-2004 23:16

The poster has demanded we remove all his contributions, less he takes legal action.
We have done so.
Now Tyberius Prime expects him to start complaining that we removed his 'free speech' since this message will replace all of his posts, past and future.
Don't follow his example - seek real life help first.

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