Preserved Topic: The future of internet... the Grid(s) (Page 1 of 1)

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Cern engineers, who partly invented the world wide web

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Sorry but CERN did never create THE WEB but only the easy interface "web pages" let's said HYPERTEXTE


http://public.web.cern.ch/public/about/achievements/www/history/history.html , by reading this texte you will find that the older date is 1989... In fact the web took more that 30 year to grow before been know by normal people...

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Looks like a bad idea in the works. Imagine all the security holes. I say it's fine for things like SETI and a few others that compile maps or something of that nature because you are allowing access to your machine by someone. I don't think it would be wise to let anyone access to your machine.

I always found it kind of ironic that the largest super computers (you know, the ones that take up entire warehouses) are often used for simulating nuclear explosions, which I believe to be the case for the largest super computers in the US, France and several other countries.

But the one country that actually got nuked, Japan, is using their super computer (which I believe is actually the largest in the world at the current time) to simulate and research massive scale natural disasters, like the kind that'll bring a second ice age. Kinda makes you question the relevancy of needing such power in the first place, or more importantly what you'd actually be using it for.

Here is another grid that I am familiar with:

http://www.accessgrid.org/

The University of Montana (where I am) was a pioneer in this field.

Zigot - Get your terminology sorted out before you rant. Lets play spot the difference ....

(d)ARPANET - was the originan transport systen which, in it's improved form is known nowadays as
the INTERNET <<--- that's spelt INTERNET --- and it was definitely around a long time before
the WEB <<-- that isn't spelt INTERNET --- but IS the http protocol together with the use of hypertext over that protocol.
It sits on top of .....

(d)ARPANET - otherwise known nowadays as
the INTERNET and it uses INTERNET PROTOCOL (yep - IP) as a lower layer transport service. .(... Ahhh the good old ISO model ... )

and yes ... I was around in the years well before the WWW and I used a Stamford University Networking Workstation before it got the fancy logo ... and I still remember getting hot and sticky about being able to upgrade from my 600 baud accoustic coupler (squawkbox) to a new, superfast 1200 baud modem so I coulf play adventure on the JANET arpanet servers. But we never called it THE WEB until after Tim Berners-Lee couned the phrase World Wide Web to describe the networking of documents and the ability to share graphical and complex information using http .... Hypertext Transport Protocol (I think thats what it means)

INI ... I don't know if our GRID site is accessible from outside (I think it is) ... but if you're interested in the Astronomical applications of GRID technology you may want to visit one of my colleagues ... and have a look at one of the applications.

If anyone wants a brief primer in how GRID-like systems work, and/or how to convert a skipload of old junk (read "free") PII PCs into your very own supercomputer .. (and I mean it - I did it with 4 800Mhz P3s and it works) ... then you need to look at Stone Soup and maybe follow the links on that page to other Beowolf Based projects .... Yes -

Gigaflops for peanuts ... LOKI fastened to Hyglac makes up a 2x16 cluster of 200Mhz P2 processors in the form of off-the-shelf PCs, and that cluster runs 2.19 Gflops, which is better than onequarter of the power of the Cray T3D (256 processors) used by our colleagues at the JPL



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In programmer's mind and on a salesman's lips

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so I could play adventure on the JANET arpanet servers

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Man, that must have rocked. I've read a lot about the first MUD's, must have been an exciting time to be online.

Heh ^^ sounds rather naughty if you ask me


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Thanks for info InI

I am not discussing nothing about technicality. I would only said that CERN did a little in the internet history. The part I did was more or less finding something usefull to did with for everybody the HYPERTEXT, that all...

They did what physic people are good at the right concept to use all the hard work done by somone else more wealty and less intelligent.

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yeah,what he said.........

I think you've struck upon the formula Tao. Insert some random spelling errors and you practially will be him.

[This message has been edited by Skaarjj (edited 03-08-2004).]

We all know Al Gore is responsible for the internet anyway.

"Nothin' like a pro-stabbin' from a pro." -Weadah

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