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Guys,u gotta help me.I discovered this site 2 days ago and iclicked on "todays active topics" and sent my question and icame yesterday to check if anybody answered me
but guess what! icouldnt find the damn topic! the topic named "hello"!
would anyone tell me how can i find this topic again? and if not,would anyone help me LEARN PHOTOSHOP! or igotta go to a class here in my country?
yr answer will be highly appreciated
thanx,have a marvellous day,full of yr fantasies

Shake it

Maybe it was closed coz it had no point to it.

Okay,would anyoen give me tips about how to use photoshop to design a poster of plasters bag.
thanx hugh for replying..


Shake it

Nobody can help you learn Photoshop - only you can. People can give you tips and advice on specific questions - but it really is up to you to make the effort and play and explore the program.

A good place to start is the manual and the help section in PS. There are many beginners Tutorials on the Net - use google - you will be amazed what you will find.

Post an your images - ask questions and read the responses good and bad, take them to heart and work with the suggestions that were made.

Bottomline is:

Get to know the program - what is what and what does what....
Play and practice - lots of practice - play some more and when you do that and you get stuck ask.

sib


edit: guess posted at the same time or I was to slow here:
plaster bags ?? you mean plastic?



[This message has been edited by sib (edited 05-29-2003).]

A good idea is to post links or thumbnail images of what you've already accomplished, as well as asking specific questions about where you want to go next. General "how do I do this" questions usually get pretty harsh responses around here.

Open the program, play around with it for a couple of weeks, turn something out, and then come ask us what we think.


Bodhi - Cell 617

1) Read the Manual

2) Play around with the program

3) Read more

4) Practice more

5) check out the tutorials that are linked to at the bottom of every page here

6) Practice more

7) If you are stuck on a particular area or have specific questions, post what you've come up with and ask about your problem. "How to make a poster of a plasters bag" is not a question that is going to get you any answers.

^ 7 steps to happiness.

First, learn this: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

ShakeurBom .:. The biggest mystery in life is Photoshop (everyone is now straching their heads after that comment). It took me a while to figure out the program and I'm still figuring it out, three versions later, but I have found that the secret to Photoshop is simple ::: Layers, layers and more layer, oh, and of course the transparency of said layers. If you screw something ;;; ctrl+Alt+z, or just go back in your history. Simple right. Yeah right. Give a lash.

oh guys, u r great..The problem is im on Adobe Photoshop most of the day and itry to make something creative but ifail everytime ..
well what im playing with all time when iam on Photoshop is the BRUSH! and must admit imake awful things with the brush,imake images which looks like a drunk was trying to paint but when iwant to do something creative with letters like "synax" name,idont know how !!
how do ifind these options?how can i play with the letters?how can imake a nice background!imean when iopen the photoshop ifind this pic of the eye and the sea.. can i make the same pic using photoshop?
Guys,imust admit, u were a great help
love u all

Shake it

quote:

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1) Read the Manual

2) Play around with the program

3) Read more

4) Practice more

5) check out the tutorials that are linked to at the bottom of every page here

6) Practice more

7) If you are stuck on a particular area or have specific questions, post what you've come up with and ask about your problem. "How to make a poster of a plasters bag" is not a question that is going to get you any answers.

^ 7 steps to happiness.

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Beleive it or not, those really are the answers you need, and there's no one answer to "how do I make cool stuff".

Maybe you should take a few steps back - kind of learn to walk before you start running.
Not sure if this makes sense?

97 % of the people in here run with Photoshop you and me and some unknown lurking person are trying to just simply to get a handle on this.

To me Photoshop is one big Toybox ... sometimes I just pick a tool and simply play with it and play meaning practice and sometimes for hours.

Everyone started at one point with the program if it is Synax, Mahi ... ? and on it goes (not picking on you guys) and they spent lots and lots of time practicing.

Maybe post one of your images and go from there ? People can then see what you are doing right and or wrong.

sib

Very often, in Egypt, the software comes "without the manual" .. if you know what I mean ... In that case your only options are to read the help pages as though they were a manual, or buy a book to help you.

I'm an experimenter by nature, so I found tat the best way to come up to speed with Photoshop was to DO THINGS with it ... find something I liked, try to make it myself, keep trying, then find tutorials to show me how someone else did it ... then try again 'till you know how to do it ... then move on to a new technique and start all over again. In time, you will build up a repetoire of techniques, and you will find your skills have improved along with them.

Also ... Trust google .. google is your friend ... you can find ANYTHING with google as long as you ask well worded questions.


Bug-free software only exisits in two places
A programmer's mind and a salesman's lips

trib,idid what u suggested,ikept trying..itook a pic ialready have and played with filter alot and came up with a shadowed pic which looks hmmm not creative but fine for me as first experience and iwanted to share it with you but when icopied it and tried to paste it here, the paste icon was faded ,dont know how can i show you my first baby guys .. how do u insert yr pics in here?

Shake it

Hello ShakeurBom,
Sometimes it is difficult to even ask the right question eh? All the above suggestions are rock solid advice, believe me.
Have a look at My sig development I started off with the text (my name) in PS (PhotoShop) used a couple of effects on it and posted it up in the "Big Sig" section for others to comment and add suggestions. if you need to know how to include images with your posts, you should find the answers Here .
When you are writing a reply have a look to the left where it says *UBB Code is ON, and click on it. That will show you how to do most things with your posts.
It all seems a bit daunting at first, but you have to put the time in to get results from PS, and when you do, I'll bet you want more. Good luck.

Thanx for yr help Taobaybee..
Ineed another advice here!
Do u think Multi Media Flash will help me ?there is a class running now at college,do i register? or it is so easy ?
waiting yr reply,


Shake it

Well, just a personal opinion: If you're having trouble figuring out Photoshop, the last thing you need to do is move on to a second unrelated program with even more complexities.

Focus on one thing at a time.

lol..yeah what u say make sense, but im in desperate need to learn HOW TO DESIGN..ill go 2 or 3 classes ,if i found myself completely dumb then ill cancel and just wait for the photoshop class to start..

Shake it

Actually, I've never taken any classes in web design or PS or anything like that, and I believe I'm fair-to-middlin'. There's still lots to learn, of course, but I can do most of my learning on the web.

I dunno, it kind of seems like you expect these classes to be magic pills that are suddenly going to turn you into a "designer." I know some people here have taken classes, but a lot of people haven't. For me, the recipe has been something along these lines:

5 parts research on the Internet
3 parts listening to advice, criticism, etc.
2 parts common sense
(and 10 parts screwing around trying to get things to actually work! - Thanks DL )

The proportions may vary depending on the person, but I think those three things are very important. I'm not trying to discourage you from taking classes, of course, but I don't want you to be disappointed when you take two or three of them and you find out your still not a super-designer.

[Edit: Hmm... I wonder if I am coming off as some snobbish know-it-all here. That is not my intention, and I certainly do not know it all. I am not a web designer by trade, but I do like to tinker. I suppose you can check out my website and then decide whether or not you should listen to me or just ignore me.]




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Suho1004, i really appreciate yr advice, its after all why iam here! to get advice from experts like u guys. But what iwant from the class Suho is to show me the basics, like one of the members here told me, u gotta learn how to walk then decide to be a designer..
Suho1004, idont want to take the classes to be suddenly a designer, iknow it takes years to be a professional. But i just want to know the basics .


Shake it

Cool, well as long as you know that it's not going to happen in a day. If you just want to learn the basics, though, you might not necessarily need to take classes. I know plenty of people here (myself included) who have learned the basics through experimentation and research on their own.

Like I said, though, if you want to take classes, more power to you. But it's not the only way.

Suho - you forgot one:

10 parts screwing aorund trying to actually make it work =)

I mostly taught myself by experimenting. One fine day I read about the Emboss/Gauss combo, so I sat down and played with Emboss until I had it figured out; then I played with Gauss until I had it figured out (not that hard to figure out Gauss); then I played with both as a combo until I had it figured out. Another day I decided to learn to the Pen tools, so I sat down and played with each one until I had it all (almost all) figured out. Polar Coords? Played with it until I had it figured out.

As I am so fond of saying, "play.fiddle.learn".
That's my method.
Takes time, dedication, and a love for certain things.

Some of the most fun I've had with PhotoShop is figuring out the foibles. Nothing like making Stupid Mistakes.

Many people here have offered you good advice, but I'm going to give you a good guideline: Don't use the F word. Don't ever use the F word.

Of course, by the F word, I mean filters. They can be helpful, but try as hard as you can to stay away from them. They more than likely produce cheap, well...filtery effects. Avoiding them can make your work look much better and more "proffesional."

There are some usefull, not cheap-looking filters though. Like: polar coordinates, gaussian blur, sharpen, lighting effects etcetera, but nothing ruins an image more than seeing lens flare, or the watercolor filter.

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On more thing, more of a side note, please use COMPLETE WORDS AND CORRECT SPACING.

I hate having to read: "nvrmind," "neone," "yr," and stuff like that. Please use "nevermind, "anyone," and
your."

I'd have to say your perspective is a little flawed CFB, though your intentions are good.

Many filters serve a very vaild purpose, and without them, well....you might as well just use Painter

The key is to use them wisely, and to realize that everyone has seen what filters can do, so when you put out a piece of work with a bunch of filters randomly run over it....people will know that's all it is.

quote:

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10 parts screwing aorund trying to actually make it work

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DL: Yup, you're right. I realized this later on, which is why I added the experimentation bit to my next post. But screwing around is definitely a major part of learning.

counterfeitbacon,
U ruined the ONLY thing i learned in photoshop by my own !!! which was the FILTERS!
i loved using it cause it was the only thing i knew how it works

Anyway, i am starting my new class of Macro Media Flash next week, cant wait to start and tell you my experience there..

Hey, what do u think of my writting this time? and you too, dont tell me again the "F" word cause my mind went to something else lol
and hey, thank you..

Shake it

We got ours the hard way--we did it ourselves. This is no place for people who are looking for easy solutions. Take your silly-a$$ questions elsewhere

A class can be helpful. I was pretty clueless in PS when I first got it. Even playing around wasn't yielding satisfactory results. I enrolled in a basic distance learning course just to get some direction in the program! While I don't consider myself to be a world class designer in PS - at least I know what all the tool buttons mean!

Though I can't see how a Flash course is going to help you at all in PS.


Cell 617

Thanx Bodhi23
billiewebbjr, were u adressing me?




Shake it

Also another few big tips....

1. Learn the manual
2. Play with the program every chance you get.
3. google.com and gurusnetwork.com is your friend, look for tutorials. Search for them.
4. Avoid most of the filters like the plague.

and the most important one...

5. SHOW US YOUR WORK.... These guys are really good with most graphics programs, especially photoshop. Find a way to get your work on here.

The programmer's national anthem is 'AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH''

Wolfen's Sig Site

Wolfen, people like u make me come to this site everyday..
Thanx a bunch for the tips , i do practice everyday on the photoshop all by myself.. and when i get something intresting idid, ill definetly submit it here..

Shake it

If you can, pick up the Photoshop WOW book. It should have some excersises in there that you might find very useful and help get you started.

As stated by the other members, find some tutorials on the web. They are pretty basic, easy to understand, and have step by step instructions so you don't get lost.

Good luck on your journey.

SerpentineGX

the Gurus Network tuts are really good. Worth working through several times, as they don't just teach you how to acheive a specific effect, but how to use the tools properly instead. That way, you can apply what you've learned to something other than the example in the tutorial.

In the links below, try also the HandsOn tuts...


Cell 617

photoshop help ehh?? tutorials help a lot i've been doing that and if you're confused just ask one of these guys cause they seem to know what they're doing

beeru

For nice text effects use the text tool, ctrl+click on the layer w/ the text and then screw around with the filters, sumtimes you'll accidently make sumthin neat

Paranoid, you cant link an image here from your hard drive, you need webspace that allows direct linking

ShakeurBom, a few years ago i was placed in a job where i had to use photoshop for a living. i scratched my head for hours trying to make the program do something useful. in the end i had to read the manual cover to cover and practice in my own time for months. i've now read the manual 3 times, each time gleaning a little more. back then i had no one to ask.

time
practice
patience

we are all still learning but we were all where you are now


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