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Emperor
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posted posted 05-19-2005 19:45

I'm off to see it in a minute and am now excited (although I was avoiding getting too excited early)!!

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Bugimus
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posted posted 05-19-2005 20:29

I have lost my interest in seeing this movie any time soon. Isn't that weird? I had a ticket in hand this morning for the 11 o'clock showing and I gave it away. I will probably see it when it comes out on DVD.

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Jestah
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posted posted 05-19-2005 20:59

I read the novelization of ROTS and it was incredible. I'm seeing the movie tonight and if its half as good as the novel it'll be great.

bitdamaged
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posted posted 05-19-2005 21:15

Everything I've heard so far is positive about this one. Thank god the last two were so horrible.



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DL-44
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From: under the bed
Insane since: Feb 2000

posted posted 05-19-2005 22:32

I love star wars - period.

Yes, there were aspects of the last two that were bad - but in all reality they were the same aspects that were bad about the original 3.

I have not attempted to fight the crowd of nerds so far - will see how things are over the next couple days.

Jestah - one of the things I did hear from a handful of people is that they were disappointed with in comparison with the book...

Jestah
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From: Long Island, NY
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posted posted 05-19-2005 23:31

Strover did a great job on expanding on the characters thoughts and feelings. I think its going to be very difficult to carry that over to the big screen, but I'm looking forward to it no less.

For those of you that haven't read many/any of the novels I'd highly recomend checking out Yoda: Dark Rendezvous & Labyrinth of Evil before you see ROTS. Those are the two novels that precede ROTS and are just great novels in general.

Emperor
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posted posted 05-20-2005 02:06

Well it was a good film.

Mainly because all the plot was in place and so it required less actual dialog and acting (which is largely dreadful - Ian McDiarmid and Christopher Lee are the only ones who really get away with it) and it was fine eye candy with set piece after set piece.

The CGI is consistently impressive and the final lava scenes are breathtaking. Given the amount of moeny thrown at the effects they'd have had to be shot if it hadn't been amazng to look at.

There were some bits that were so bad it made me want to cry - basically they all involved Hayden Christensen - "Come and join the Dark Side" ~furrowed brow~ "OK!! I'm off to kill just about everyone I know now. Bye." And the sub-Frankenstein birth of Vader was laughable and it is supposed to be one of the most important parts of the film.

Not enough scenes of the Wookie Army.

It closes the circle and that was the important thing for me I suppose.

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Suho1004
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posted posted 05-20-2005 02:22

Glad to hear it didn't suck too badly, and only in the ways I expected (when is Lucas going to reveal that Christensen isn't actually a human, but a wooden puppet?). I probably won't see it any time soon, though.

Oddly enough, my wife is looking forward to seeing it more than I am. We bought the first two episodes on DVD at her insistence.

And am I the only who finds it mildly amusing that the movie's title abbreviates to ROTS? Yeah, I probably am.

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briggl
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From: New England
Insane since: Sep 2000

posted posted 05-20-2005 04:06

No, Suho, you are not the only one.


eyezaer
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From: the Psychiatric Ward
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posted posted 05-20-2005 04:56

I have a few beefs with the film... but they are not all that important. And as far as a stand alone film... it aint gonna be the best of the year.... but dang. It kicked. It rocked. I laughed. Almost cried. More than once.

In short.... Fantastic.

Lacuna
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posted posted 05-20-2005 04:59

Good or bad, I can't wait to see it!
Until i can, I'll just have to be satisfied with my brand spanking new Darth Tater!!
He is now sitting in a prominent spot on my desk at work. I'm afraid I may have to lo-jack him though, as I'm sure someone at work will try to pinch him!

jiblet
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Minneapolis
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 05-20-2005 05:07

Gotta disagree with Emp on the Darth Vader stuff. The only thing I didn't like were the laughable love scenes. A lot of the other acting was bad, but not so much I couldn't get into the movie.

-jiblet

Iron Wallaby
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From: USA
Insane since: May 2004

posted posted 05-20-2005 05:12
quote:
Suho1004 said:

(when is Lucas going to reveal that Christensen isn't
actually a human, but a wooden puppet?)


"But Palpatine, I want to be a real boy!"

"Join the Dark Side, and you will be!"

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(Edited by Iron Wallaby on 05-20-2005 05:14)

twItch^
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From: Denver, CO, USA
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted posted 05-20-2005 07:00

Having just returned from seeing this movie, I suppose it's best that I add a few of my thoughts to this thread.



Over the past several years, since Episode I was released, many people (myself included) were quite rightly annoyed with Lucas's treatment of the universe that he introduced us to in the first three films. We were astonished that he would so cavalierly disregard all the fantasies that we had created in our minds in light of new technologies (toys) that he could play with in his cinematic creations. And he doled out money to see it, perhaps just so that we would have legs to stand on in our criticism of him.

In I and II, he focused not on the duality of the universe (The Jedi vs. The Sith), but instead on the singular character development on Skywalker, as a child and as a teenager, in the conflicted nature of his coming to power. We all knew, walking into Tatooine for the "first" time, that the cheerful little boy would become the most feared villain and most intricate character in movie history. But we couldn't come to terms with Darth Vader ever saying "Whoopie!" while leaping off a desk full of spare parts, or so blatantly disregarding the Order to which he swore his allegiance and life. Indeed, we found him to be wishy-washy. Annoying.


Fast forward to today, when his coming to darkness is complete--his redemption many years off. I sat in a crowded theatre that collectively held its breath during saber duels that portrayed the Emperor as a deranged lunatic, Yoda's nearly breaking under the pressure, and Obi-Wan's being forced to strike down the only family he ever had. And we knew it had to happen. But we all tried, begged, that the screen wouldn't disappoint us.

And though we were handed what we expected, tears were shed, minds were changed. Lucas has, in this film, remembered what it is like to be a human. To be conflicted. To want something so much that it hurts more and more with each passing moment not having it. He created a movie that had the audience rooting for who we knew to be the bad guy, that he might find his way away from the darkness of temptation and evil. That he might not be so consumed with protection of those he loved that the best way to keep her safe is to destroy her. A madness that anyone can understand.




This evening, I am proud to say that I saw Star Wars Episode III: The Revenge of the Sith. And the tears I shed in that theatre were not of sorrow, for I know that Darth Vader finds his way back to light. Just as Lucas has, perhaps. The tears I shed were for moviemaking magic--for Lucas transported a very large room full of people with expectations into a universe that he first visited in the early 70s. And it's a fitting crown for his six-part movie.




It almost makes up for him changing the end of Return of the Jedi in the DVD release.







Almost.

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Yannah
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posted posted 05-20-2005 12:23

I'm not sure when I'm gonna be able to see it, but I'm longing for that moment.

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jiblet
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Minneapolis
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 05-20-2005 15:53

The real problem with episodes one and two to me is that they didn't feel like an adventure. It was more like a bunch of people getting into random unrelated battles. Lucas tried to create drama with events like the pod race in E1 and the assassin chase in E2, but those were largely distinct from the overarching events that we are supposed to care about. I don't even really remember the themes of those movies very well, E1 was about saving Naboo, but what about E2?

In the original trilogy the battle between the Empire and rebellion drove all the events of the movie, creating a continuous tension as the various sides pursue their goals relentlessly. In E1 and E2 you wonder: what crazy situation are they gonna wind up in next (and will I care)?

Enter RotS: In some respects the story of this movie jumps around the most, but it holds up better because the clone wars are in full swing, so most of the agents seem to have a more singular purpose. Also, the various threats seem much more serious and immediate than in E2 which ends up being merely staging for this movie. And, of course, Lucas pulled out all the stops for this one, creating the most intense sci-fi action ever seen. But what really surprised me was how powerful this movie was, the Darth Vader scenes had real poignancy (I know Emp disagrees). I was expecting some good action and not much more, but the story really held up for me.

Finally, I want to make the observation that in the original trilogy, Lucas created a universe. Over the course of three movies you not only get a great story, but also the realization of a mythical world. In E1-3 you already know the world, and so more burden falls on the story, but you already know how the story ends, so the only thing left for a filmmaker is to make you care about how it happens. In RotS Lucas finally creates the compelling How.

-jiblet

F1_error
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From: EN27
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posted posted 05-20-2005 16:09

If you haven't already you should read the final entry in The Darth Side: Memoirs of a Monster the Darth Vader blog.
All I have to say is; wow.

Emperor
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Cell 53, East Wing
Insane since: Jul 2001

posted posted 05-20-2005 22:11
quote:
Lacuna said:

Good or bad, I can't wait to see it!
Until i can, I'll just have to be satisfied with my brand spanking new Darth Tater!!
He is now sitting in a prominent spot on my desk at work. I'm afraid I
may have to lo-jack him though, as I'm sure someone at work will try to
pinch him!



Ooooooooo they sound good - where would I get one of those?

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mas
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posted posted 05-21-2005 01:26

just came back from the cinema. i am very impressed, its a awesome movie. the visual effects, the story - everything was just exciting! maybe i'm going to see it again

B | T | E | P | L

Iron Wallaby
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posted posted 05-21-2005 03:49

I just saw it as well, I was very impressed with the exposition of Dath Vader. He never really wanted to be evil, just made the wrong choices for doing what could be justified as the right thing.

How similar to us, sometimes.

Reminded me of Faust, which isn't a bad thing. The action scenes were great, and even though Lucas couldn't write a romantic scene to save his life, everything else was excellent. (Did anybody else see the Millenium Falcon in the Naboo spaceport? )

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Lacuna
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posted posted 05-21-2005 11:32
quote:
Emperor said:

Ooooooooo they sound good - where would I get one of those?



Put some pants on under your dress and I'll put one in the mail for you next week

(Edited by Lacuna on 05-21-2005 11:34)

Moon Shadow
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From: Rouen, France
Insane since: Jan 2003

posted posted 05-21-2005 12:19

Well, it was entertaining

The whole movie seems to be about action scenes and special effects. Fortunately they are really amazing

The movie is darker than the first two episodes, which is good. I like the way the story was written... Most actors play well, but Christensen is still awful.

I have one reproach though, Lucas tried to make the ending of Episode 3 match as close as possible the beginning of Episode 4. So during the whole movie you'll see amazing space battles involving hundreds of advanced space ships, very complex droids and impressive special effects... And during the last minutes, visually speaking the movie will shift to Episode 4, which means the dreadful big red and white buttons will be back...

I was like

But overall... You'll have a good time.

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WebShaman
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posted posted 05-21-2005 12:23
quote:
f you haven't already you should read the final entry in The Darth Side: Memoirs of a Monster the Darth Vader blog.
All I have to say is; wow.



I echo that sentiment - WOW!

Great writing. Thanks for posting the link.

Skaarjj
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From: :morF
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 05-21-2005 16:19
quote:
Lacuna said:

Put some pants on under your dress and I'll put one in the mail for you next week




If I put a dress on over my pants will you send one to me too?


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White Hawk
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posted posted 05-21-2005 17:11

Emperor said:

quote:
(I was avoiding getting too excited early)



Don't we all..?

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DL-44
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: under the bed
Insane since: Feb 2000

posted posted 05-21-2005 17:48

haven't read all the comments here, just wanted to drop a note

saw it last night, and while there are certainly some parts that made me cringe, overall I gotta say -

Fuck Yeah!!

=)

{{edit - oh, and I want a darth tater too!!}}



(Edited by DL-44 on 05-21-2005 17:49)

Emperor
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Cell 53, East Wing
Insane since: Jul 2001

posted posted 05-21-2005 21:32
quote:
Lacuna said:

quote:Emperor said:
Ooooooooo they sound good - where would I get one of those?

Put some pants on under your dress and I'll put one in the mail for you next week



Ah now you wouldn't love me if I wore undergarments!!!

I'll sneak a pair on until I know my Darth Tater is in the post.

I have to say planning a long way ahead has really paid off on this - you can't get a Darth Tater over here for love nor money.

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