Preserved Topic: IBC Amerasu,Hugh+WarJournal (Page 1 of 2)

We've decided (well Warjournal didn't but he is understandably tied up) to stick our efforts here, for two reasons, its the easiest way for us all to work on the one thing, and the whole forum can contribute ideas of any kind.
To start the ball rolling, heres a wee two minute sketch I did:

Its supposed to have "JERKS" written on its tip, but that would be very hard to draw properly. Nothin' special just a doodle, but its all we got so far more to come soon I hope. Im gonna try dedicate some time to this project.

I Have to emphasize that other Asylumites comments and contributions will be appreciated.

Zipped Psd a little more, nothing special, not worth the download to anyone really :P

[This message has been edited by Hugh (edited 05-23-2003).]

looking great guys(and gals)

Appreciate the comments of course, but what were really looking for (well I am for one, I cant speak for others), is ideas, and concepts and hardcore critique, I realise there isnt much to show so far, But this isnt a finished work show it off piece. This is a community piece, I dont like the idea of us three submitting an idea/painting/concept fourth "in the name of" or to represent the ozone asylum, it doesnt feel right. we need more input .. please

again, Im sure many of you have read this with the intent of posting and seeing there is nothing to review, but please remember ...this is not a review and this is ours as much as it is yours and it would be great if people suggest new things and ideas (objects even) that should be added.

thanks.

K. first.... i miss the chains that hold the "bomb" up..... as well as the fins, it needs dimensions.. and a floor. to say the least... its also missing shadows, which i imagine would be added last.... maybe have some more computers, along the wall, a cart with tools on it near the man, have the man not be a silhouette, that doesn't make sense when things farther away than him have definition and he doesn't.... maybe add an assistant... designs, textures.... lights on the ceiling.... places like that generally have the rectangular flourescent lights... that should get you started if you're short on ideas




[This message has been edited by Sanzen (edited 05-25-2003).]

Sanzen already proposed very good suggestions... Just adding mine : you could maybe cut a bit the 'rope' holding the light, and move the light more near the roof.. And then you could make the light less 'dispersive', having a cone of light less powerful and less large, creating shadows in the corners, making the whole scene looking more like an workshop... But again it's a simple suggestion, I don't think I am enough an artist to suggest you anything

that idea sucks man. i Mean really... a bomb... sheesh.

*set us up the bomb* pffft!

Time to go back to the drawing bored... err... board. *cough* and think it over *snickers* for a nother week.. *hack*teehee*cough*

what?

No man... I aint on a different team.

Really.

ummm... yah... so... I gotta run man.

You got madd paintin skills... i gotta go.



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LOL - don't listen to him ^^^^^^^^^^

Mind games?? Really what will you reprobates think of next?

Anyway - developments.....

Amerasu has had to drop out because of having a big load of work dumped on her. As we have hosed through our alternates I have been in consulatation with docilebob and luckily Trib has stepped up to the plate

He claims not to be too hot on painting but luckily photomanipulation might be what we are looking for as we still haven't touched the 3 alloted photos (and Hugh is a great painter and wj is still on board).

So some thoughts - I think the atom bomb concept is strong but the image needs to be abstracted (rather than it just being a picture of a bomb making room). Keep the bomb image and the room in the front with various images in the background (kind of like innocent scientists guys tinkering without realising the effect it will have).

Anyway the most affecting thing I've found is when Oppenheimer (choking on his words in a TV interview) qutes Shiva and says "I am become death, destroyer of worlds".

See: http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/j/q101189.html

So how about a picture of Oppenheimer:
http://images.google.com/images?q=Oppenheimer

this seems a suitably melancholic one:
http://www.th.physik.uni-frankfurt.de/~jr/gif/phys/oppenheimer.jpg

fading/morphing into one of Shiva:
http://images.google.com/images?q=Shiva

and pos. one of a mushroom cloud - the Doc has plenty of those.

[edit: Fund the page:
www.ozones.com/bomb-old/

but things seem broken

Anyway a quite Google should find some good examples]

Also possibly a quick painting of the outline of a body burnt into a wall?

Anyway bomb pictures:
www.aa1do.com/bioiambecome.htm

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I still like the idea of counterpointing the doom and gloom with a ray of hope ... maybe a couple of Greenpeace RIBs buzzing around trying to stop it all ... ... however I'm finding it difficult to find any buzzing RIBs ...


Bug-free software only exisits in two places
A programmer's mind and a salesman's lips

I've done a wee bit more.. hopefully, this wont interfere with anyone elses work, if it does I'll do the sticking it in part.

Looking quite lovely hugh - great work.

I agree with Emperor a great deal. It will need more abstract concepts plugged in, and the ones he listed are quite good. It might also be effective to include imagery of the aftermath of such a blast...be it from japan, or from some of the test sites (the house being obiterated comes to mind).

Trib - I think a ray of hope is a great thing to include, but greenpeace doesn't seem to symbolize hope to me =(

{{edit - after some looking around, it would seem that the image of a paper crane would be rather appropriate for your ray of hope Trib. Some info here - http://www.nvccom.co.jp/peacepark/index.html

and specifically here: http://www.nvccom.co.jp/peacepark/monumente.html}}



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DL:

quote:

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It might also be effective to include imagery of the aftermath of such a blast...be it from japan, or from some of the test sites (the house being obliterated comes to mind).

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Yeah thats why I was thinking about the imprints of people burnt into walls and the ground - that always horrified me more than the destruction of property.

[edit2: See:
www.matthewmckibben.com/essay_hiroshima.htm
www.gensuikin.org/english/photo.html
www.24hourmuseum.org.uk/exh_gfx_en/ART14898.html

Some general pictures:
www.english.uiuc.edu/maps/poets/g_l/levine/bombing.htm
www.jade.dti.ne.jp/~akirana/hiroshima.html

]

Hope? Hmmmmmmmmm - not yet

Anyway how about flip the thing and have Oppenheimer and the bomb on the left transitioning to something onthe right like rebuilding and growth - a flower in a crater or one of the temples and memorials in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. See:
www.reggie.net/album.php?albid=522
www.csi.ad.jp/ABOMB/pp.html

[edit: The above are of the Hiroshima Peace Park see this for the Nagasaki one:
www.reggie.net/album.php?albid=534

and this for both:
www.najadojo.com/jamie/peace.html ]

so the outcome of those horrors is a committment to peace - throw in the CND sysmbol if you want (although I suspect it might be a bit predictable.

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How about this for a throw-in ...


Zipped PSD (over 6 MB)

Shivenheimer's colouring is optional in the psd.


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[This message has been edited by trib (edited 05-26-2003).]

Im having trouble downloading that and intact, could you email it to me an I'll host it ?

nm , I got it. Also, just checked out your site trib, v.nice, cool idea.

Thanks for the comments Hugh ... I enjoyed building that site, but it's a bugger to maintain, so I'm considering replacing it with a plain old blogger ... The concept might re-emerge later though ... in a more simple form perhaps.

It looks like we've used up our 3 allotted photos already ... perhaps the bomb could do with some contents, and shivanheimer's hand is a bit truncated, that's why I put it inside the bomb .. I wonder what he's doing with it ...

Maybe stick a few wires and bits in that hand then

Also, are you good at texturing ? ... im not great at it at all, the bomb doesnt look steel , or any of the objects for that matter.

this is taking some kind of weird, abstract but awesome turn....

i still say you could use some machinery along the wall, maybe some items on the table, a dooor maybe? how does shiva get out?

also, the back wall/floor looks as if its curving/has no definition...



[This message has been edited by Sanzen (edited 05-26-2003).]

Actually Hugh ... most of the real bombs were painted with matt finish gray or OG paint ... but if you want a shiny one, lets see what I can do ... maybe I'll just send the bomb layer as a separate psd (if I can make it work ...


Bug-free software only exisits in two places
A programmer's mind and a salesman's lips

I think you guys should slow down.
Stop even.
Set this whole IBC thing down..... go work on a speed paintin' or sumfin! =)

Hey Hugh .. Shiny bomb perhaps ??? The reflections/shines sort of match the room as it was set up in the last pikky ... Now I'm off to bed !!


PSD (6 MB)

P.S. if you're working on a more realistic reflection map, you'll need to cast some light on the underbomb table ... from the light, and from the bomb reflections ... and I dunno what that stripe is in the foreground ... but it seems an artefact has crept in ... never mind, the PSD has the bomb and reflections/shine layers to copy and paste if you want them.

[This message has been edited by trib (edited 05-26-2003).]

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yea good so far I like it ! I'm gonna try work on it in the morning only if WJ doesnt want to call it by about 1pm, I'll try my best on the reflection maps, I might just add some more things in with basic lighting and give you another go? wheres the table gone ? that had potential for cover a large area !! :P

Oh yea, and I was thinkin of adding something similar to: http://www.icklepix.com/art/montree.jpg
for the computers and possibly some sort of technolgy/support for holding up the bomb, or is it magic ? eitherway, its just that the table there is too low perspectivywise to hold the bomb up.

any ideas for more people/creatures ?

please post trib if you aren't done.

I like the one third back, before the hindi thing came into it, getting busy for me after that point.

Very cool, very well done.

Jason

Whoops .. the table was inadvertantly missed out of the quick "bomb spit 'n' polish" jpeg, same goes for the chains ...

but as you can see, the PSD only contains the bomb ready to be cpoied over onto the previous version. The jpeg was only to show the shine ... to see what you think.

Awww .. J.K. ... That's when I arrived ...

I too think i gets a bit weird with oppenshiva or whatever. I like the idea of a japanese refrence. Mabye if oppenshiva wasn't so colorful. I dunno.

Awsome work though.

hey that's the fun of teamwork, everybody's different and it shows. Truly I hadn't noticed that's when you came in but I should have figured to look, it's obvious now that you said it (not that it's bad in itself but clashes with the other style). Trick is getting 3 different styles to come together by the end. Keep goin and see how it comes out.

Jason

I couldnt think of anything else to add to it, so here it is:

7.5mb .zip

I might get time later tonight or tomorrow morning to do somemore.
By the way, Im uploading 7mb on a 56k, another .. 50min remaining for the zip file.

[This message has been edited by Hugh (edited 05-27-2003).]

Hugh: I like the brickwork but I think the plant tendriles are a bit odd - that said perhaps as there is an Oppenshive in the middle of the room odd = good (although possibly by having things more 'normal' it might help concentrate on the oddity of the Shiva figure).

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so .. um the last days ahead .. Im in work 5pm to 10pm, so Im pretty much finished here, if no one has done any changes by tomorrow morning, I might add a little if I can. was just thinkin, it looks really nice in b/w .. but then .. I dunno, someone give it a look see in b/w.

Who does the submitting etc ??

and post notification before you wanna make mods, t'would be handier.

No paper crane?

Well I'm stuck with work all day, so I won't get any time to go further with it. Thanks for giving me the chance to dabble ... it's just a pity that I came in with only 3 or 4 days left ... It must be real fun to start at the ideas stage and work it right through ...

BTW - it is possible to turn off the color layers on shivenheimer to make him more monochrome if you think that would be better.

Hugh - Will you be posting the finished jpeg ?

Thanks all - Especially Hugh.

Seems thats the end of it then, I didnt get a chance this morning.

DL-44, paper crane would be hard to paint

submitting: I dunno, I suppose, anyone with the above zip can submit it I guess.

"
1.3 Image submission
The Organizer Forum will host a thread, in its board, named as the Competition, with the Challenge Assignment and a list of the Player Forums.
Each Player Forum will host a thread, named as the Competition, with a link to the above thread.

1.3.1 How to submit
When an image to be submitted is ready, the Captain will place it somewhere on the net, and he will send to the Challenge organizers the URL of it.
The Challenge organizers will place the URL in the Challenge thread.
"
.. cryptic, seems like Emporor might have to submit it.


If no changes are made:
Big Color 170kb

I'll start a thread at the GN when I get home from work in a few hours.

Watch for that, and post the URL in that thread.

In that thread we'll run through the details of posting in each forum and voting, etc..

BTW - have you used all 3 photos yet? Could always find a free photo of a paper crane

yep, all three were used. please post link to the gurusnet thread when you've done so

oh man, of all the times my host decides to go down !! .. first time too, never had as much as a glitch, fs. Unluckily I dont have copies here in work(I have the other images, not the last one) .. I think, anyone save the last image incase its needed ?

.. mmh, my host .. so reliable, Im thinkin I might have exeeded some limit. Didnt think I had any tbh ..

its not in the temporary net files either ... damn, needs be I'll get my sister at home to email it, can anyone find ibc2f.jpg in their temporary net files ? If you can email it to hugh@icklepix.com or host it somewhere ...


EDIT: Actually, no .. dont email me anything .. I cant read my webmail, when icklepix is down ... grr fs , curse, curse,

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http://development.gurusnetwork.com/discussion/thread/2070/

I'll take a look in my cache and let you know.

Hugh: If you email/ICQ the file to me I'll upload it to the FAQ (as it will go in there eventually) and I'll give you the link to submit to the GN - my contact details are in my profile (if you loose the copy I've ICQed to you).

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I have to say I quite like the b/w version too ...


Bug-free software only exisits in two places
A programmer's mind and a salesman's lips

mmh, its down again ... are people downloading those .psds like forty times each or something ?