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I've tried to make an animated DNA strand at least two times before; I believe somebody else had a similiar DNA-sig ages ago, I tried to steal the idea but never got far...

This was supposed to be a sig for the movie competition (for either the Fifth Element or Jurassic Park) but as the connection to the movies would be quite vague, I just made it a 'standalone' sig.

Yeah, it's rectangular, and I intend to keep it that way. Because I'm eeeeeeeevil Any comments/mistakes/anything else you'd like to mention?

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mahjqa: Again, breathtaking! You should write some tutes at the gurus just on the basic animation of your stuff. I am jealous!

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It's just superb, IMHO. Color is good...goes quite nicely with the Asylum colors, IMHO. Animation is well-done...lighting is good...I love how you did the sequencing and the meter thingie...that's just class all the way. It shows that you have a good grasp of DNA...you obviously did your homework.

As usual, you prove that you are the master of small text and animation.

Is the 'X' in relation to X-Men?

I love it. Great work.

Just fantastic Mahjqa.

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For the most part, it is absoluetly lovely. The colors and the flow are simply superb.

I have one qualm though - the outer strands are great, the inner links are great, but they don't seem to be moving together....they seem completely detached from each other.

love it. one question though, why do the vertical strands move more slowly to the right than the spiral strands?

Well I'm humbled...

Nice mahjqa!

How long did that take you?



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Guys, the strands aren't moving at all, they're simply rotating. That's why the vertical stripes don't move. =)

However, the vertical strands would certainly benefit from more hints from the lighting to determine what stage of rotation they're in.

Webshaman; Actually, no. It was just something I had lying around, and I neede something to fill up the blank parts in the sig
DL; you're right, they don't move together. The outer strands don't move at all (sideways, that is) while the inner strands move to the right, one pixel per frame. If you look closely, every 180-degree turn of the greater strands creates an new inner strand on the left, and makes one inner strand on the right disappear. This movement is in sync with the CTGATCGATCGATCGAT letters in the bottomleft, which move to the right 7 pixels per frame (If you look closely, a strand always has a letter below it)
In short, the discrepancy had some ideas behind it, but (as I see now) is confusing as hell. Should I keep the inner strands stationary? at any case, I'll try to figure something out.
Slime; I'll try to make the lighting more obvious.

I liked how you have the TGAC scrolling, but it would be cool if you included the other acids at the bottom as their opposites.

Something like.

TGACTGACTGAC
ACTGACTGACTG

And they're both repeating in opposite directions.

edit: also, the rungs don't move according to the spiral motion, their just staional verticle , if that were the case, our DNA would be completely fucked up.

And this all depends on whether or not you're doing mRNA or RNA or DNA. 'Cause the amino acids have different inverses when in RNA.


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would just like to point out that rotation *is* movement. =)

And the rotation of the outer strands would cause the rotation of the inner strands...unless of course my understanding of DNA is botched and they aren't actually connected...

Either way it is still a stunning visual piece =)

uhm, no, you got that riht, both the inner and outer strands rotate, but the inner strands move to the right, while the outer strands stay in place.

(it's a bit more clear here: )

It's hypnotizing to watch, but the inner strands' movement is a little distracting. If you stare at it long enough, you start to notice how the outter strand is a right movement animation, and it sort of ruins the illusion.

I'm also rather disappointed that none of the letters spell out GATTACA.

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Human Shield; I actually had no clue the movie existed until I googled it. Seems like an interesting film, but I'm quite sure our local video store doesn't have it. I'll see if I can get it any other way.



Another tryout... The differences between this one and the first one are
a) the inner strands don't move sideways anymore (that's a keeper)
b) the outer strands are closer together (slightly more realistic, but will get dropped because of it's confusingness)
c) better shading on the inner strands (doesn't work because of the aforementioned confusingness) (and actually, the shading's not better)

Back to work.

Gattaca is a great movie.

I find this new version much less confusing.

Old version looks better, don't listen to Slime. He's just a geniuss .

Seriously, this new version doesn't even look remotely like it has rungs... The old one looked a little bit like the rungs were spinning with it. This new one doesn't.

The old one looked...fuller.

I really liked the shape that the old DNA strands take, with the pseudo-eliptical shape, but the new one has an odd shape.

I actually thought that the old ones spiral strands looked fine...


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The stationary rungs are much better.

The initial one just didn't look like one entity rotating...it looked like two seperate elemements doing two different things.

The first time I saw the sig was in another thread, and took a bit of looking to realize that it was actually supposed to be dna.

=)

*cough*

I'd be really interested to know how you pulled this one off. I can sort of make guesses, but I'm not entirely sure.
Great work as always.

Really awesome work Mahjqa. Even with some of things others have pointed out, I still like the first versions. There is something hypnotic about it. I don't care if the vertical bands don't act like rungs. It is a stunning piece.

nice! i like the first one the best

Google is celebrating the 50th anniversary of DNA today too

First of all, simply stunning...

Second, I believe Eyezayer had a DNA sig?

Thirdly, Gattaca is a supurb movie and I am sure your video store would have it. It's not that old.

like the first one better. the newer one looks too static

Velvetrose is right, the first one is not static, just amazing!

New version, GATTACA dna-code inserted (as if anyone would notice) and inner strands don't move to the right anymore. Also added a bit of extra shading. I think I may be able to squeeze a few more animated thingies in there, maybe anyone has some suggestions?
I'm currently donwloading Gattaca. Sh, don't tell anyone, the people at our videostore didn't have a clue what the movie was about.

Synax; It's actually quite simple (theoretically)

I started out with this animation. I used [filter>other>offset] (with 'wrap around' turned on) to make the layers move up and down (each frame has it's own layer.)



After that, I ran [filter>distort>spherize] (set to 'vertical only') on each layer, and it came out like this:

As you can see, the white layer becomes the 'top' part of the animation, the gray layers are the parts behind the white strands.

After that I resized it to 50% to get rid of the jagginess that resulted from the spherize filter.

To add shading to the outer strands, I made a shaded 'tube', (the rectangular shapes you see) and cut out the shape of every DNA-strand in the layer. This is to keep the shading consistent in each frame.



Hope this helps a bit.

By the way, [filter>distort>spherize] is also useful for making planets. Just make a repeating animation like this: and run spherize on each layer.

Makes a great rotating flame thing too, when you use a lens flare as the mask.

mahjqa how did you make your water or pixel animation sig?

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Information on the water sig can be found in this thread, in the last few posts

The pixel animation was done frame-by-frame, mostly. If you want to make animations with PS material, I strongly suggest that you learn how to use Imageready, it comes with PS.

I did some quick googling, and this seems to be a nice imageready tutorial .

mahjqa:
you are one of the most talented artists i have ever seen. but not only your skills are just awesome, it's also the way you help other people and try to explain your techniques.
people like YOU should be EVERYWHERE!

i agree with mas, all your work is amazing.
anyway how did u make this water sig? http://www.mahjqa.com/sigs/mahjqaliquid.gif



[This message has been edited by hellfireclanx (edited 04-27-2003).]

hellfireclanx, e-mail him about it and he may be nice enough to give you an answer.

As for mahjqa, thanks for the explanation I was kinda close to figuring it out, but not really



[This message has been edited by synax (edited 04-28-2003).]

Put it in the FAQ that's incredible!



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