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Emperor
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers
From: Cell 53, East Wing Insane since: Jul 2001
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posted 09-23-2002 17:08
I think I mentioned it might be a good idea to offer a kind of XML news feed so that people can include RR news on rips and stuff on their site. As an example I threw this together:
www.ripperreport.com/xml/news.xml
Thoughts?
I have proposed having the PSPong match details sent out as XML and we will be offering things like tutorial details from the GN. It will be a way to keep our family of websites connected together.
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Slime
Lunatic (VI) Mad Scientist
From: Massachusetts, USA Insane since: Mar 2000
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posted 09-23-2002 18:24
Sounds like you might want to look into RSS. It's an XML language for giving data about news like that. I'm afraid I don't know where the actual specs are, but www.webstandards.org has an example (look for the 'xml' icon at the bottom).
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Emperor
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers
From: Cell 53, East Wing Insane since: Jul 2001
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posted 09-23-2002 20:53
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synax
Maniac (V) Inmate
From: Cell 666 Insane since: Mar 2002
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posted 09-23-2002 22:28
*AHEM?!*
I think I mentioned that idea and you're just stealing my glory!
If you're going to use XML for a news syndication feature, then you should probably use RDF (RSS like Slime mentioned).
Infact it seems that's the direction you're leaning towards, so cool.
I have a sweet RSS parser for PHP if you need it.
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Slime
Lunatic (VI) Mad Scientist
From: Massachusetts, USA Insane since: Mar 2000
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posted 09-23-2002 23:03
Sorry, synax, I hadn't been reading other posts =)
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synax
Maniac (V) Inmate
From: Cell 666 Insane since: Mar 2002
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posted 09-23-2002 23:16
My comments were directed towards Sir Emps-a-lot, Slime 
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Emperor
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers
From: Cell 53, East Wing Insane since: Jul 2001
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posted 09-23-2002 23:19
synax: So you did - I'll steal anything thats not nailed down. Sorry it something I've been pondering for a bit - while it may not be perfect for the Ripper Report at the moment (as I explained in the original post) I would like to develop a format which we could use at the GN, PSPong and, if required, RR. So throw in your ideas and resources too - we have Expat if that helps.
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Michael
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist
From: *land Insane since: Nov 2000
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posted 09-23-2002 23:20
*ahem*.... that's "Emps-master-flash" to yew, mistah.
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synax
Maniac (V) Inmate
From: Cell 666 Insane since: Mar 2002
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posted 09-23-2002 23:21
Grand Funkmaster Empsnizzle.
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Emperor
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers
From: Cell 53, East Wing Insane since: Jul 2001
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posted 09-23-2002 23:23
Thats 'Grand Master Emps and his Steel Wheels of Love'.
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synax
Maniac (V) Inmate
From: Cell 666 Insane since: Mar 2002
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posted 09-23-2002 23:24
well this got out of hand rather quickly 
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Emperor
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers
From: Cell 53, East Wing Insane since: Jul 2001
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posted 09-23-2002 23:25
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synax
Maniac (V) Inmate
From: Cell 666 Insane since: Mar 2002
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posted 09-23-2002 23:27
did not! *points to Michael*
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Michael
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist
From: *land Insane since: Nov 2000
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posted 09-23-2002 23:28
[This message has been edited by Michael (edited 09-23-2002).]
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Emperor
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers
From: Cell 53, East Wing Insane since: Jul 2001
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posted 09-23-2002 23:28
And thanks for the files I'll see what I can make of (sorry steal from) them. As we have Expat available on all the sites we should try and aim for common (possibly).
[edit: Actually it does use Expat so thumbs up there]
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synax
Maniac (V) Inmate
From: Cell 666 Insane since: Mar 2002
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posted 09-23-2002 23:33
*stabs Michael in the neck*
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Emperor
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers
From: Cell 53, East Wing Insane since: Jul 2001
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posted 09-23-2002 23:36
And for those people following at home (and skipping the stupidity) the latest incarnation of the script mentioned above is here:
www.fase4.com/en/rdf/
Thoughts (sensible ones that is)?
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Michael
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist
From: *land Insane since: Nov 2000
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posted 09-23-2002 23:39
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synax
Maniac (V) Inmate
From: Cell 666 Insane since: Mar 2002
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posted 09-23-2002 23:39
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Emperor
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers
From: Cell 53, East Wing Insane since: Jul 2001
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posted 09-23-2002 23:43
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eyezaer
Lunatic (VI) Mad Scientist
From: the Psychiatric Ward Insane since: Sep 2000
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posted 09-23-2002 23:48
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Emperor
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers
From: Cell 53, East Wing Insane since: Jul 2001
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posted 09-24-2002 01:54
OK that all seems pretty straightforward and I've produced a second example:
http://www.ripperreport.com/xml/news2.xml
Thoughts?
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WebShaman
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist
From: Happy Hunting Grounds... Insane since: Mar 2001
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posted 09-27-2002 08:51
Great work guys...and funny thread...
Yeppers, getting a news service up and running was one of the things that the idea in my head for the ripperreport started with...
As some of you know, during the BSS thing, I was running all over the net, trying to get the word out. It was an exhausting processes, in and of itself. At that point, I wondered why there wasn't a 'network' already in place to make such a thing much easier on the victim. Sure, there were sites that wanted to help, but none of them were interconnected, esp. in the department of information sharing. This awareness dawned on me...sharing the information would help the victims immensely (and would be a great deterence to perps). The way it stands in the net now, perps have a pretty 'easy' time of it with ripping...because someone needs to first recognize the rip, then persue the ripper. With the enormous growth in websites in recent time, the chances of that actually happening are small (esp. when one considers that a lot of rippers rip, then do alterations to what they rip). Also, during the BSS thing, I found out just how difficult it is to 'track down' a ripped graphic...where did the rip come from? It's like looking for the proverbial needle-in-a-haystack thing...there are just tons of graphic sites out there...and if the graphic is a bit 'altered', it's very difficult to pin it down...most likely, only the original artist could identify it as a rip...or someone who has seen it before (and can remember where they saw it...). So that is how the 'News thing' got started in my head...
And you guys have done a great job on this so far...
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InI
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist
From: Somewhere over the rainbow Insane since: Mar 2001
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posted 09-27-2002 09:21
The poster has demanded we remove all his contributions, less he takes legal action.
We have done so.
Now Tyberius Prime expects him to start complaining that we removed his 'free speech' since this message will replace all of his posts, past and future.
Don't follow his example - seek real life help first.
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Emperor
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers
From: Cell 53, East Wing Insane since: Jul 2001
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posted 09-27-2002 14:22
WS: Thanks 
InI: I'm not sure what you mean. RSS 0.91 is very strictly defined:
http://backend.userland.com/rss091
I've used the script Synax suggested to grab the feed and parse it at the GN:
http://development.gurusnetwork.com/xml_feeds/rr_news.php
I'll have to tweaks things as the layout it produces is ugly and it isn't happy with RSS 1.0 feeds (which I'm also looking at grabbing) but it shows how simple that all is.
In the next few days I'll knock together a script that will write out RSS from a DB to a static file so that we can have the XML dynamically updated when we update our news.
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InI
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist
From: Somewhere over the rainbow Insane since: Mar 2001
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posted 09-28-2002 16:31
The poster has demanded we remove all his contributions, less he takes legal action.
We have done so.
Now Tyberius Prime expects him to start complaining that we removed his 'free speech' since this message will replace all of his posts, past and future.
Don't follow his example - seek real life help first.
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Emperor
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers
From: Cell 53, East Wing Insane since: Jul 2001
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posted 09-28-2002 18:22
InI: What we want to do is also let other people use the feeds on their own sites and we'll want to add them to the aggregators out there (it'll help spread the word and increase traffic) so we'll have to stick to the standard - I went for RSS 0.9x as we didn't need the extra elements that RSS 1.x has.
[edit: and we are working on a little web design news aggregation so we want it to fit into that too]
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Emperor
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers
From: Cell 53, East Wing Insane since: Jul 2001
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posted 03-21-2003 16:23
OK all RR business will now take place at the Ripper Report forums. I'll shut these down and then archive them in a few days so we can refer back to them.
I'd recommend that inmates register over there and give us their thoughts and input.
Thanks to the Doc for allowing us the space to get things rolling 
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Skaarjj
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist
From: :morF Insane since: May 2000
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posted 03-22-2003 04:06
Someone appears to have opened this agian emps...so I'll close it again.

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