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Bugimus
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: New California
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 06-26-2003 14:47

Tongue splitting new shocking body trend


[Emp edit - making the link work]

I'm not sure why this is described as a "shocking trend" but I would be interested in your opinions on this and many other types of body mods that go beyond piercing and tatooing. Personally, I have no desire for any of it. I don't see how any of it is necessarily a problem either.

. . : slicePuzzle

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Moon Shadow
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Rouen, France
Insane since: Jan 2003

posted posted 06-26-2003 14:53

Disgusted, this is just plain stupid

These people try to cultivate their difference, to show around they are different, but in my opinion they choosed the most stupid way to do so. If they need to show they are not like everyone, there are other ways...

bodhi23
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Greensboro, NC USA
Insane since: Jun 2002

posted posted 06-26-2003 15:12

Not a body modification I would go in for, though I certainly support a person's right to make their own choices here.

About 5-6 years ago, my li'l sis dated a guy who'd had this done... could be revealing more than she'd wish, but she did testify to the "added sexual benefits"... Personally, I don't think I could get over the vague disgust at the idea to enjoy that sort of thing!

Tattoos are a personal expression, IMHO. They can ultimately be removed (albeit somewhat more painfully than they were gotten!). Piercings can also be removed, and the holes eventually heal up and go away. I had my tongue pierced for 8 years and took the stud out about 6 months ago. The hole is gone now, but I do still have the impression of a "phantom stud"... just from having it there for so long I guess. These are things I can see a person doing at some point in their lives, and then perhaps letting them fade, or heal later on when they grow out of it...
Scarification and body modification on the other hand - are more extreme, and more permanent. These folks who are splitting their tongues I don't believe are considering that 15-20 years down the road, they may wish they hadn't. These are not things that should be done in a rash rebellion against the world...
But again - if you're adult enough to make the decision, it's your decision to make...
As my sister always tells me, her body is her temple, to decorate as she chooses...


Cell 617

Emperor
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Cell 53, East Wing
Insane since: Jul 2001

posted posted 06-26-2003 16:10

Bugs: Hmmmmmmm thats an interesting one - its not soemthing I'd do but......

I am a little more worried about other trends in extreme body modification like amputation and castration (sort of the same thing). It seems so irreversible but perhaps thats part of the point......

I discussed this with DG a while back (whether this was part of the body modification scene or just general lunacy) and I suspect I still have various links stored away in the ICQ history if people were interested.

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Lacuna
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: the Asylum ghetto
Insane since: Oct 2002

posted posted 06-26-2003 17:00

hmmm... i'd heard of this being done...but wasn't aware that there was enough people doing it to call it a 'trend'. it's most definitely not something that *i* would have done...but i'm all for letting people do whatever they like with their bodies as they're the ones that have to live with it.
as much as i'd hate it done to me...when i come across people who have been braver/dumber than i have been and do far out stuff like this, i will point, stare, oh, ahh and ask stupid questions. they make the world a bit more interesting at any rate.

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Bugimus
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: New California
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 06-26-2003 21:55

I've heard, and seen some pictures, of some other body parts being modified in ways that made me cringe. It shouldn't take too much imagination to get the idea. The idea of permanence is what would prevent me from ever doing any of those things. I like the idea of being able to "start from a clean slate" with the art I create. Your body is kind of a one time thing, at least in our time, and I would hope people consider *very* carefully any decision to modify it so drastically.

bodhi23
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Greensboro, NC USA
Insane since: Jun 2002

posted posted 06-26-2003 22:05

Yup - Bugs, I've seen some of those photos too... *shudder* They've crossed a line somewhere!


Cell 617

Wangenstein
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: The year 1881
Insane since: Mar 2001

posted posted 06-26-2003 22:47
quote:
I am a little more worried about other trends in extreme body modification like amputation and castration (sort of the same thing). It seems so irreversible but perhaps thats part of the point......



I dunno, Emps. Since protective gear and medicine have removed a fair amount of the sting of natural selection, maybe this is just the modern replacement for it...

In most circles, they'd be less likely (if not unable) to reproduce. Maybe they're just doing Darwin's job for him?



Evil in theory, not so much in practice...

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Xpirex
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Dammed if I know...
Insane since: Mar 2003

posted posted 06-28-2003 04:14

What about Lev 19:28 Bigimus?
Does the bible approve of these radical body modifications? What your stance on this?

Lev 19:28. Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead--The practice of making deep gashes on the face and arms and legs, in time of bereavement, was universal among the heathen, and it was deemed a becoming mark of respect for the dead, as well as a sort of propitiatory offering to the deities who presided over death and the grave. The Jews learned this custom in Egypt, and though weaned from it, relapsed in a later and degenerate age into this old superstition ( Isa 15:2 Jer 16:6 41:5 ).
nor print any marks upon you--by tattooing, imprinting figures of flowers, leaves, stars, and other fanciful devices on various parts of their person. The impression was made sometimes by means of a hot iron, sometimes by ink or paint, as is done by the Arab females of the present day and the different castes of the Hindus. It is probable that a strong propensity to adopt such marks in honor of some idol gave occasion to the prohibition in this verse; and they were wisely forbidden, for they were signs of apostasy; and, when once made, they were insuperable obstacles to a return. (See allusions to the practice, Isa 44:5 Rev 13:17 14:1 ).

Lev 21:5 They shall not make baldness upon their head, neither shall they shave off the corner of their beard, nor make any cuttings in their flesh.


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Schitzoboy
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Yes
Insane since: Feb 2001

posted posted 06-28-2003 08:52

While I think that the whole body mod thing is something I'd never do and usually unattractive, I think that the people who are shocked by suck things are much more disturbed than those who do it for the shock value.

Wangenstein
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: The year 1881
Insane since: Mar 2001

posted posted 06-28-2003 22:34

So... Someone cuts their tongue in half as a fashion statement, and I'm the disturbed one?

Interesting theory, and completely correct in my case, but such generalizations tend to be false...

Fig
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Houston, TX, USA
Insane since: Apr 2000

posted posted 06-29-2003 08:12

i've heard that verse referenced before (i have a tatoo) and as i don't grow out my sideburns or beard without clipping them either (which as memory recalls is the verse before) i'm ok with my tat if we're going to hold to OT laws then i don't think we can pick and choose between them, its either none or all.

chris


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Schitzoboy
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Yes
Insane since: Feb 2001

posted posted 06-29-2003 08:19

Wang: Lemm rephrase that. What I was trying to say was while I find it ridiculous that someone would modify their body for shock value, I've got no problem with it. I think people should be free to do whatever they wany with their OWN bodies. However I think people who would get offended by those kinda acts need a reailty check.

velvetrose
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: overlooking the bay
Insane since: Apr 2001

posted posted 06-29-2003 17:44

while I can appreciate the younger generation asserting themselves by scolding older generations for not keeping the planet livable, or for tolerating scandalous polititians, I think those who deform their tongues now will probably have them sewn back together as they age.. I also hope the next generation finds a less drastic way of demonstrating their individuality


Wangenstein
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: The year 1881
Insane since: Mar 2001

posted posted 06-29-2003 19:03

Schitzoboy: Ah, gotcha.

eyezaer
Lunatic (VI) Mad Scientist

From: the Psychiatric Ward
Insane since: Sep 2000

posted posted 06-29-2003 21:10

uuuhhgggg.... I was having a hard time envisioning it so I did a search for Tongue Splitting on google images... and... I can assuredly say, I will never ever ever do that. ever. never. never-ever(er).

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