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blue
Bipolar (III) Inmate

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Insane since: May 2001

posted posted 05-26-2001 00:33

i've been looking for a good place to put my site...any suggestions? i prefer that it's free and supports php and cgi. i have yet to find a decent host that isn't slow or a pain with advertising banners. =)

thanks for any help.


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mr.maX
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Belgrade, Serbia
Insane since: Sep 2000

posted posted 05-26-2001 01:03

http://www.f2s.com/

taxon
Neurotic (0) Inmate
Newly admitted
posted posted 05-26-2001 01:16

Yep... if you want free and banner-less... go wtih f2s... they aren't all that bad.

Someone is going to say this eventually in the thread... and I get tired of hearing it.... so I'm going to say it instead....

You get what you pay for.

butcher
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: New Jersey, USA
Insane since: Oct 2000

posted posted 05-26-2001 01:24

Taxon

I thought the same thing when I read this post the first time, and refrained from saying it because like you, I knew somebody eventually would.

Glad to see you took the bull by the horns.



- Resolutions, Of All My Fruitless Searches -

blue
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From:
Insane since: May 2001

posted posted 05-26-2001 01:34

hehe. that's one of the problems though. if you have no money, you don't get much.

i'm currently looking for a job, and my website is being built to start off my part-time freelancing job. i need $$$!



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taxon
Neurotic (0) Inmate
Newly admitted
posted posted 05-26-2001 01:39

hehe...

Well blue,
and not until recently did I *actually* realize this...
but $150 through dreamhost isn't gonna break ya for a year. Besides... it'll light a fire under your ass, knowing that you are paying for that web space.... you're going to *want* to make the most of it...

blue
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From:
Insane since: May 2001

posted posted 05-26-2001 02:46

very true i guess. and it figures that f2s' servers are currently full.

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JKMabry
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: out of a sleepy funk
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted posted 05-26-2001 03:05

$150 don't getcha the rampant CGI thing tho. You'll get PHP and a few canned CGI scripts (formail, mailinglist...) but it's $250 for full CGI

Jason

blue
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From:
Insane since: May 2001

posted posted 05-26-2001 05:33

sounds good. but $250 seems like a lot. especially for someone with no job. i don't really know if i'd use full cgi though. i'll probably use dreamhost after i find a source of income.

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linear
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: other places
Insane since: Mar 2001

posted posted 05-26-2001 05:39

http://hostsearch.com/

blue
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From:
Insane since: May 2001

posted posted 05-26-2001 05:48

geocities is my current host. i also have a dns that is supposed to redirect to my page, but it doesn't work with geocities.
www.geocities.com/hlbluegraphics/


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Pugzly
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: 127.0.0.1
Insane since: Apr 2000

posted posted 05-26-2001 06:02

How much space does DreamHost give you for 250 a year?

Pat Richard
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mr.maX
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Belgrade, Serbia
Insane since: Sep 2000

posted posted 05-26-2001 10:46

Let's don't forget that DreamHost started to suck big time lately and we experienced that here in the Asylum. So, IMO it isn't worth that money...

blue
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From:
Insane since: May 2001

posted posted 05-26-2001 18:11

well, if dreamhost isn't that great, who is? any recommendations? oh yea, i just remembered that at my school, we might be starting a server on our t1 line. they could host it and i could buy the domain name that i want, right?

blue
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warjournal
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

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Insane since: Aug 2000

posted posted 05-26-2001 20:11

Sweet Dreams -
$250 gets you 125 megs for a year, 17 pop3 (or 15?), CGI, 5 sub-domains, and a few other things

something like that

i don't have any compliants yet, but they have been giving Doc the run-around lately

blue
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From:
Insane since: May 2001

posted posted 05-26-2001 20:17

125 megs for a year? so after the year you have to pay another fee to keep the space, right? sounds kinda expensive...

blue
- if at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried...

warjournal
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From:
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted posted 05-26-2001 21:30

Your not paying for just the space. And you can pay monthly, which is more expensive in the long run.

Keep shopping.

blue
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From:
Insane since: May 2001

posted posted 05-26-2001 22:55

yea, i went to the dreamhost website and saw a bunch of monthly deals. i couldn't find anything based on annual payments. in the meantime, i'll wait till f2s.com is accepting new accounts. seems like the best way to go right now.

blue
- if at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried...

la'dsasha
Neurotic (0) Inmate
Newly admitted
posted posted 05-27-2001 02:48

honestly, how much space do you need? the largest site i have looks to be less than 10 megs, thanks to php. i cant think of any reason why youd need 125+ megs unless youre running something like ubb instead of running a sql database.

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this rose has a thorn...

blue
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From:
Insane since: May 2001

posted posted 05-27-2001 03:00

i've found that geocities has enough space for anything i could want. when i look for a free host, i usually don't notice the space until i'm halfway through the signup process.

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taxon
Neurotic (0) Inmate
Newly admitted
posted posted 05-27-2001 04:46

blue - you may have only seen the monthly rates at dreamhost... however... if you pay in full at the start, depending on the plan that you get... sometimes they give you 30MB extra storage...

kevincar
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: north hills, ca usa
Insane since: Apr 2001

posted posted 05-27-2001 06:19

I host my domain on webdot.net - $7.00/mo for 70 MB, 14 e-mail boxes, and you can schedule your own backup/restore (!!!) no setup fee-crap, and they know how to transfer domian names like nobody's business. They host java servlets too! - don't think they do database - i KNOW they don't do PHP, but I'm a perl guy, anyway. I'd recommend them if you can live with just that.

Something bugging me is they charge $25 EXTRA for turning off directory listings - THAT was a big WTF for me... It was my first domain host, but I'll probably let it expire and go somewhere else.


Wes
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Inside THE BOX
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 05-27-2001 06:56

Blue, if you go to the info page for any of the plans at DreamHost, there's a table at the bottom listing the rates for 12 months, 6 months and 1 month.

For example, for the Crazy Domain Insane Plan, it's $12.49 a month. But, if you pay for 12 months it's $119.40, which comes out to $9.95 a month (the price they list).


blue
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From:
Insane since: May 2001

posted posted 05-27-2001 20:18

hey that's cool, and kevincar, i prefer php, because i've been on the net for a few months learning php. i'm not that good, so i would like a decent place where i can experiment and play with some php stuff.

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linear
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: other places
Insane since: Mar 2001

posted posted 05-28-2001 05:13

I'm using webstrikesolutions.com, which has Perl5 and PHP, and most of the things you'd want from Apache turned on (not indexes). No shell access at all, runs on RedHat Linux (seems to be up a lot) and gives me free POP mail (lots of mailboxes) and runs primary DNS for my domain.

First year was free, with a $30 one-time setup fee. I think it's $8 or $9 /month after the first year.

But I found them using http://www.hostsearch.com/ . You specify what you want, and what you want to pay, and it gives you companies that meet your needs.

mjv
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Perth, Australia
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted posted 05-28-2001 07:02

linear,
what is the stability like on webstrikesolutions.com?
What's the speed like?
It looks like a deal too good to be true!

Thanks

linear
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: other places
Insane since: Mar 2001

posted posted 05-28-2001 21:46

I've been pretty happy. Uptime has been high, not 100%, but probably 99%, I don't have any way to judge.

They get a 9.6 feedback rating on hostsearch's feedback page, with 88 votes, so that should tell you sumthin' about the quality. Tech support is good, they allocate a contact to you so you don't get a random human each time.



mjv
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Perth, Australia
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted posted 05-29-2001 06:33

Yea i saw the customer comments after i posted.

It looks like a pretty good deal to me!

Thanks for the recommendation.



DocOzone
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Sovereign of all the lands Ozone and just beyond that little green line over there...

From: Stockholm, Sweden
Insane since: Mar 1994

posted posted 05-29-2001 09:07

Hmm, for a good average, the entire OZONE site fits inside 98MB. The Asylum is a pig, and eats 50-75MB all by itself. Most of my sites would fit inside the 10MB La'D mentioned. Dreamhost has been crashing for me a lot lately, but I monitor 3 different accounts there, and to be fair to them it seems to only be *my* server that's been having problems, sigh. Pugzly! Why don't you post a rate sheet for Asylum users here? Much as I'd like to get the referrers to my dreamhost account (same username as here! =) I'd feel even better knowing you were getting the business. Steal someone elses rate sheet, add a few features (maybe CGIwrap for safe CGI usage) and start singing folks up. Lemme know what you come up with.

Your pal, -doc-

blue
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From:
Insane since: May 2001

posted posted 05-29-2001 15:19

hey doc, do you get something if you refer someone to dreamhost? like extra space or something? geez, i need a job.......

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twItch^
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: the west wing
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted posted 05-29-2001 16:30

domains, domains, domains and servers. Fuck the f2s! Git ahn board!

My server? I host almost all of my clients in addition to any of the experimentation that I do..So I'm soaking probably 250 megs or so on my server. A healthy chunk, to say the least. I guess it all depends on what you're doing.

blue
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From:
Insane since: May 2001

posted posted 05-29-2001 16:48

250 megs! that's quite a lot. twitch, you need another client?

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twItch^
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: the west wing
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted posted 05-29-2001 16:56

blue, if you want to use my server, you're more than welcome to. Buy a domain (they're awful cheap these days) and pipe it over, I'll let you squat.

And if you don't want to squat, you're more than welcome to be http://th-inknet.com/blue or whatever you want.

so there.


s t e p h e n

blue
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From:
Insane since: May 2001

posted posted 05-29-2001 17:38

like i said earlier, i have a dns that'd redirect for me. so maybe i could get a subdomain? i'll end up buying a domain eventually. the dns is just temporary.

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linear
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: other places
Insane since: Mar 2001

posted posted 05-29-2001 18:15

OK, let me turn this around:

I'd be willing to consult and do tech support for Apache/BIND/Sendmail/PHP/MySQL in exchange for someone allowing me to host a low-volume web site on their *NIX server. I would require shell access (SSH) and would strongly prefer MySQL and PHP4. Anybody up for that?

I run a dozen or so boxes at work, and know my way around *NIX pretty well, so I could help someone getting started, or help an existing hosting provider with security and reliability at the OS and httpd level. I'd like to do a personal tech-oriented blog, but I need it to stay off my company's infrastructure completely.

3rdperson
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: your subconscious. (scared yet?)
Insane since: May 2001

posted posted 05-30-2001 02:19

threep mops up his tears and says "all i need is somewhere to put my sigs!"
and wonders how much longer he (and his fellow asylumnites) can stand the red x.

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