Preserved Topic: web space

i've been looking for a good place to put my site...any suggestions? i prefer that it's free and supports php and cgi. i have yet to find a decent host that isn't slow or a pain with advertising banners. =)

thanks for any help.


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blue

http://www.f2s.com/

Yep... if you want free and banner-less... go wtih f2s... they aren't all that bad.

Someone is going to say this eventually in the thread... and I get tired of hearing it.... so I'm going to say it instead....

You get what you pay for.

Taxon

I thought the same thing when I read this post the first time, and refrained from saying it because like you, I knew somebody eventually would.

Glad to see you took the bull by the horns.



- Resolutions, Of All My Fruitless Searches -

hehe. that's one of the problems though. if you have no money, you don't get much.

i'm currently looking for a job, and my website is being built to start off my part-time freelancing job. i need $$$!



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blue

hehe...

Well blue,
and not until recently did I *actually* realize this...
but $150 through dreamhost isn't gonna break ya for a year. Besides... it'll light a fire under your ass, knowing that you are paying for that web space.... you're going to *want* to make the most of it...

very true i guess. and it figures that f2s' servers are currently full.

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blue

$150 don't getcha the rampant CGI thing tho. You'll get PHP and a few canned CGI scripts (formail, mailinglist...) but it's $250 for full CGI

Jason

sounds good. but $250 seems like a lot. especially for someone with no job. i don't really know if i'd use full cgi though. i'll probably use dreamhost after i find a source of income.

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blue

http://hostsearch.com/

geocities is my current host. i also have a dns that is supposed to redirect to my page, but it doesn't work with geocities.
www.geocities.com/hlbluegraphics/


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blue

How much space does DreamHost give you for 250 a year?

Pat Richard
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Let's don't forget that DreamHost started to suck big time lately and we experienced that here in the Asylum. So, IMO it isn't worth that money...

well, if dreamhost isn't that great, who is? any recommendations? oh yea, i just remembered that at my school, we might be starting a server on our t1 line. they could host it and i could buy the domain name that i want, right?

blue
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if at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried...

[This message has been edited by blue (edited 05-26-2001).]

Sweet Dreams -
$250 gets you 125 megs for a year, 17 pop3 (or 15?), CGI, 5 sub-domains, and a few other things

something like that

i don't have any compliants yet, but they have been giving Doc the run-around lately

125 megs for a year? so after the year you have to pay another fee to keep the space, right? sounds kinda expensive...

blue
- if at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried...

Your not paying for just the space. And you can pay monthly, which is more expensive in the long run.

Keep shopping.

yea, i went to the dreamhost website and saw a bunch of monthly deals. i couldn't find anything based on annual payments. in the meantime, i'll wait till f2s.com is accepting new accounts. seems like the best way to go right now.

blue
- if at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried...

honestly, how much space do you need? the largest site i have looks to be less than 10 megs, thanks to php. i cant think of any reason why youd need 125+ megs unless youre running something like ubb instead of running a sql database.

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this rose has a thorn...

i've found that geocities has enough space for anything i could want. when i look for a free host, i usually don't notice the space until i'm halfway through the signup process.

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blue

blue - you may have only seen the monthly rates at dreamhost... however... if you pay in full at the start, depending on the plan that you get... sometimes they give you 30MB extra storage...

I host my domain on webdot.net - $7.00/mo for 70 MB, 14 e-mail boxes, and you can schedule your own backup/restore (!!!) no setup fee-crap, and they know how to transfer domian names like nobody's business. They host java servlets too! - don't think they do database - i KNOW they don't do PHP, but I'm a perl guy, anyway. I'd recommend them if you can live with just that.

Something bugging me is they charge $25 EXTRA for turning off directory listings - THAT was a big WTF for me... It was my first domain host, but I'll probably let it expire and go somewhere else.

Blue, if you go to the info page for any of the plans at DreamHost, there's a table at the bottom listing the rates for 12 months, 6 months and 1 month.

For example, for the Crazy Domain Insane Plan, it's $12.49 a month. But, if you pay for 12 months it's $119.40, which comes out to $9.95 a month (the price they list).

hey that's cool, and kevincar, i prefer php, because i've been on the net for a few months learning php. i'm not that good, so i would like a decent place where i can experiment and play with some php stuff.

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blue

I'm using webstrikesolutions.com, which has Perl5 and PHP, and most of the things you'd want from Apache turned on (not indexes). No shell access at all, runs on RedHat Linux (seems to be up a lot) and gives me free POP mail (lots of mailboxes) and runs primary DNS for my domain.

First year was free, with a $30 one-time setup fee. I think it's $8 or $9 /month after the first year.

But I found them using http://www.hostsearch.com/ . You specify what you want, and what you want to pay, and it gives you companies that meet your needs.

linear,
what is the stability like on webstrikesolutions.com?
What's the speed like?
It looks like a deal too good to be true!

Thanks

I've been pretty happy. Uptime has been high, not 100%, but probably 99%, I don't have any way to judge.

They get a 9.6 feedback rating on hostsearch's feedback page, with 88 votes, so that should tell you sumthin' about the quality. Tech support is good, they allocate a contact to you so you don't get a random human each time.

Yea i saw the customer comments after i posted.

It looks like a pretty good deal to me!

Thanks for the recommendation.

Hmm, for a good average, the entire OZONE site fits inside 98MB. The Asylum is a pig, and eats 50-75MB all by itself. Most of my sites would fit inside the 10MB La'D mentioned. Dreamhost has been crashing for me a lot lately, but I monitor 3 different accounts there, and to be fair to them it seems to only be *my* server that's been having problems, sigh. Pugzly! Why don't you post a rate sheet for Asylum users here? Much as I'd like to get the referrers to my dreamhost account (same username as here! =) I'd feel even better knowing you were getting the business. Steal someone elses rate sheet, add a few features (maybe CGIwrap for safe CGI usage) and start singing folks up. Lemme know what you come up with.

Your pal, -doc-

hey doc, do you get something if you refer someone to dreamhost? like extra space or something? geez, i need a job.......

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blue

domains, domains, domains and servers. Fuck the f2s! Git ahn board!

My server? I host almost all of my clients in addition to any of the experimentation that I do..So I'm soaking probably 250 megs or so on my server. A healthy chunk, to say the least. I guess it all depends on what you're doing.

250 megs! that's quite a lot. twitch, you need another client?

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blue

blue, if you want to use my server, you're more than welcome to. Buy a domain (they're awful cheap these days) and pipe it over, I'll let you squat.

And if you don't want to squat, you're more than welcome to be http://th-inknet.com/blue or whatever you want.

so there.


s t e p h e n

like i said earlier, i have a dns that'd redirect for me. so maybe i could get a subdomain? i'll end up buying a domain eventually. the dns is just temporary.

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blue

OK, let me turn this around:

I'd be willing to consult and do tech support for Apache/BIND/Sendmail/PHP/MySQL in exchange for someone allowing me to host a low-volume web site on their *NIX server. I would require shell access (SSH) and would strongly prefer MySQL and PHP4. Anybody up for that?

I run a dozen or so boxes at work, and know my way around *NIX pretty well, so I could help someone getting started, or help an existing hosting provider with security and reliability at the OS and httpd level. I'd like to do a personal tech-oriented blog, but I need it to stay off my company's infrastructure completely.

threep mops up his tears and says "all i need is somewhere to put my sigs!"
and wonders how much longer he (and his fellow asylumnites) can stand the red x.