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Wes
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Inside THE BOX
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 11-07-2000 02:11

OK, so it's not that clever, but I've tried contacting them about taking and linking to images from my site and they've ignored me.
http://www.kiddkiss.com/kellie/famouspics.htm

Incidentally, this is a framed page of a high-profile Dallas radio-morning-show Web site.

If they don't remove them in a couple of weeks, the image will get a little naughtier. Suggestions are welcome, but I have to work in a 55x50 size.


vogonpoet
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From: Mi, USA
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted posted 11-07-2000 02:18

lol.. I dont know why your waiting 2 weeks! lol.. let em have it now!

Skaarjj
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From: :morF
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posted posted 11-07-2000 02:52

Aaahhhahahahaha...that's some funny stuff...what exactly did they steal?




Just when you thought that taste was dead, I came along and buried it - Skaarjj

kretsminky
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From: A little lower... lower... ahhhhhh, thats the spot
Insane since: Jun 2000

posted posted 11-07-2000 03:05

Did you hack their site or what? That is hilarious!

Slime
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From: Massachusetts, USA
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 11-07-2000 03:08

Oh, just that little thing in the corner? too bad it's not more. Still, there's a ton of potential for fun here...

BTW, most people probably wont understand the sentence "kiddkiss steals from bigwaste.com" - i doubt many ordinary people really understand the concept of bandwidth and stealing it. You need something a little more...

Krets, what happened here, is they linked to an image on bigwaste.com without permission, by actually using the URL of bigwaste.com! So wes is simply changing an image that's on his own site.

kretsminky
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From: A little lower... lower... ahhhhhh, thats the spot
Insane since: Jun 2000

posted posted 11-07-2000 03:13

Ahhhh, me gets. <img border=0 align=absmiddle src="http://www.ozones.com/forum/smile.gif"> Me likes.

bunchapixels
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Newly admitted
posted posted 11-07-2000 03:13

this is the image they stole (i assume):

gee whiz - talk about dodgy!
why dont they steal it the normal way, instead of linking to yours!
if only they did that to doc's piccy last month!
come on - this is one opportunity you shouldnt waste!
you can even keep it simple: "this site ***" "kiss fm ***" or anything like that! <img border=0 align=absmiddle src="http://www.ozones.com/forum/smile.gif">
such stupidity should not go unpunished!




pix·el [píks'l , pík sèl ]:
any of the small discrete elements that together constitute an image

Slime
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From: Massachusetts, USA
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 11-07-2000 03:55

Or, Wes, if you want, you've got a free ad banner right there, for anything you want to advertise! You could get some traffic to your site...

kretsminky
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: A little lower... lower... ahhhhhh, thats the spot
Insane since: Jun 2000

posted posted 11-07-2000 04:18

I think you should take a pic of you flipping the bird and mess with it a bit. Stick that one there.

Dan
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From: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Insane since: Apr 2000

posted posted 11-07-2000 04:34

Perfect time for a little "Vote Bush" ad.. heh, then you can change it tomarrow night <img border=0 align=absmiddle src="http://www.ozones.com/forum/smile.gif">

- Dan -

DL-44
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From: under the bed
Insane since: Feb 2000

posted posted 11-07-2000 04:48

Oh c'mon wes.....you can fit a lot of genitalia in that 50x55 pixels!! (trust me)

It's amusing now, but it'd be hilarious with a big twat dripping god knows what all over........

docilebob
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From: buttcrack of the midwest
Insane since: Oct 2000

posted posted 11-07-2000 04:55

How about "kiddkiss THIS..." and a pic of your butt ?

Skaarjj
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From: :morF
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 11-07-2000 08:51

I checked their source carefully. There is no image size blocks in place, so i say create an image 500 x 500 pixels of something really disgusting and replace that flashing 'kiddkiss steals from bigwaste.com' image with it. It will not only get the message accross good and proper, but will also stuff up the entire page layout.


Also, if you choose to go for the free advertising space thingy, put an ad for a porn site up there.


Just when you thought that taste was dead, I came along and buried it - Skaarjj

[This message has been edited by Skaarjj (edited 11-07-2000).]

Wes
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From: Inside THE BOX
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 11-07-2000 20:32

Skaarjj - Unfortunately they have height and width tags in the link to that file:

src="http://bigwaste.com/photos/star_hi.gif" width="55" height="50"

But, I did updated it with something better. Luckily, they copied and pasted the HTML from my site for the "Celebrities" graphic and it still has a link to my site. So I'm instructing people to click it to go to my site. Go take a look. I've added a whole page about the issue.

BTW, Bob, "kiddkiss this" - that's pretty funny. If I don't keep my new thing, I'll do that, then the genitalia.


Slime
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From: Massachusetts, USA
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 11-07-2000 20:52

Wow! They even copied your rollover code with it, so there's a JavaScript error! Can you change the "celebrities" image also?

I just looked, no, darn. It looks like they copied that image to their server.

They're not the *brightest* people, are they?

You may want to add something to your page about how linking to images on another server is stealing bandwidth, as well as graphics.

Shiiizzzam
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From: Nurse's Station
Insane since: Oct 2000

posted posted 11-07-2000 22:06

I have the perfect graphic that would be great for this ! haha

Add me to your icq and I will send it to you to check out <img border=0 align=absmiddle src="http://www.ozones.com/forum/smile.gif">

~Never fight with ugly people, they have nothing to lose~

the ROY
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Ft. Worth, Texas
Insane since: Sep 2000

posted posted 11-07-2000 23:03

geee wes, you just gave me yet ANOTHER reason to despise kiss fm and the kid kraddick morning show...

WarMage
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Rochester, New York, USA
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 11-08-2000 02:01

I think it may be smart of you to write to the people in the pictures. They are rather famous people. And I am sure that their agents would be pretty peeved if they found that their pictures have been placed on a site that uses graphics that have been stolen.

I think you should have your lawer call theirs! Settle out of court and what not, they used your images, they didn't pay you, you charge $600 per image you create, and along with time and agravation you are entitled to say $2000, a nice little christmas present.

JKMabry
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From: out of a sleepy funk
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted posted 11-08-2000 05:16

the dumbest thing I've ever seen.

Once again, thanks for sharing Wes

JKMabry

Wes
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Inside THE BOX
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 11-08-2000 10:34

Slime - I was gonna do that, but I don't think most people would get it. Besides, the answer to that could be, "OK, so we'll just put that one on our own server, too. There, now we're not stealing bandwidth."

Shiz - Go ahead and e-mail it to me...I'm not sure when I'll be on the next couple of days.

WarMage - I'd really like to do that, but I don't have a lawyer. I should really get me a lawyer...

Thinking of lawyers and such, maybe I should remove the "Kellie Rasberry is a thief" bit. Could be libel, you think?


Skaarjj
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From: :morF
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posted posted 11-08-2000 12:54

If you had more room, you could put up a thing saying 'kiddkiss...now doesn't that sound so much like paedophilia to you?'.




Just when you thought that taste was dead, I came along and buried it - Skaarjj

Wes
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From: Inside THE BOX
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 11-09-2000 00:43

So, they've discovered my little graphic and have fixed it - WITHOUT REMOVING MY WORK.

Thankfully, someone wrote me and told me who is responsible for the site, as well as providing me with his e-mail address. I sent him this little note...

Looks like you can't take a hint. Luckily, someone contacted me and gave me your e-mail address. You are using graphics on the kiddkiss.com Web site that belong to me and you have not solicited my permission. Let me guarantee you that due to your lack of courtesy, you will not receive it.

Remove my graphics immediately, unless you are interested in paying for them.

I hope we don't have to take this any further.


Let's see if this works.


Wes
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From: Inside THE BOX
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 11-09-2000 20:42

Woohoo! He finally removed them. But, naturally, he sent me this ridiculous e-mail in response...

----------
Those graphics are hardly "stolen" as it is impossible to "steal" things
that are posted for the rest of the world on the internet. I'm sorry that
you have nothing better to do. Petty petty petty. I hope you feel better
about yourself now that your website has been made a joke for all of our
listeners.

----------


And here is my response, fyi...


----------
And Kidd Kraddick broadcasts his radio show every day for everyone to hear. That doesn't mean someone else can tape it and play it on another radio station, now does it? And newspapers are distributed nationwide for the populace to read; that doesn't mean you can photocopy the comics and publish them as your own. Your flaws in logic are astounding.

Graphics displayed online are protected by law just as a photograph is in an art book. It would do you some good to study copyright law if you are going to be working in this medium.

And yes, I do feel better about myself. Judging from the response I have received, I can safely say that the Kidd Kraddick Web site is the butt of the joke.

But, thank you for finally removing my work.

----------

Would anyone else like to write him?
rjonkiss@hotmail.com


Petskull
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From: 127 Halcyon Road, Marenia, Atlantis
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posted posted 11-09-2000 20:52

ok, another flaw in his logic....

by making your website 'a joke for all of our listeners.', doesn't that increase traffic to your site as everyone flocks to see what kiddkiss-my-ass was talking about?


tskull@techie.com">
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because he can't help himself." --Henry Morgan
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kretsminky
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From: A little lower... lower... ahhhhhh, thats the spot
Insane since: Jun 2000

posted posted 11-09-2000 21:47

I sent a little email to our "friend" at kiddkiss. <img border=0 align=absmiddle src="http://www.ozones.com/forum/smile.gif">

kretsminky
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From: A little lower... lower... ahhhhhh, thats the spot
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posted posted 11-09-2000 22:35

When dealing with jackasses like this always remember these words....

It takes 42 muscles to frown but only 4 muslces to extend your arm and bitch-slap the motherfucker.

Excuse my French...

Wes
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Inside THE BOX
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 11-09-2000 23:23

I was going to mention that to him, PetSkull, but I figured it wouldn't have made a difference to him.

Incidentally, my traffic doubled yesterday, evidently from this little adventure.


Wes
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Inside THE BOX
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 11-10-2000 22:24

Here's his latest reply:

You're killing me with your petty behaivor, but your not even on our level
so it's a BIG WASTE of time to bother communicating with you.


Quite a little prick, isn't he? OK, guys, if you wish, I say have at him.

I'm also considering writing a letter to the station management and informing them of the risk this guy puts them at for liability in a copyright-infringement suit.


WarMage
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From: Rochester, New York, USA
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 11-10-2000 22:35

I would sue the bastard. Steal my shit and then tell me that it was his right to steal it...

God damn those people.

WarMage
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From: Rochester, New York, USA
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 11-10-2000 22:37

On a side note what radio station is this person attached to?

I would like to do some work on this issue.

Wes
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From: Inside THE BOX
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 11-10-2000 22:38

I know I'm talking to myself, now, but AHHHHHHHHHHH! Why does this shit put me so on edge? I cannot believe the stupidity and lack of respect some people possess!

Fucking leeches using other people's work to make their pages and I'm not on their level?? Working at a KISS station, making clip-art Web sites is the big time to this guy?

I feel like going to the station and punching this idiot in the nuts! At the very least, I'd like to speak to the station management if I knew I wouldn't get blown off by them, too.

AHHHHHHH!!!


Wes
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From: Inside THE BOX
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 11-10-2000 22:48

Oh, hey WarMage, you posted while I was ranting. His name is R.J. He works at KISS FM in Dallas. Their main number is (214) 891-3400.

BTW, I found a picture of this schmuck at http://www.kiddkiss.com/contactus.htm

You know, I really wish we a had lawyer who frequented this board.


Petskull
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posted posted 11-10-2000 23:07

um... Shi's in law school...

tskull@techie.com">
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kretsminky
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: A little lower... lower... ahhhhhh, thats the spot
Insane since: Jun 2000

posted posted 11-10-2000 23:38

Wow, great new gif they put on there. Wonder where they stole that one? Here is the second letter I sent, I put this one m*** at his level.


Wow, your new celebrities graphic really looks like shit. What piece of crap site did you steal that one from? Its obvious from your source code you didn't create it yourself. You know, considering the name of the gif is in all caps and the rest of your site isn't. You could at least remove the light blue border from it on your index page, looks like it was designed by a third grader. That is, if you can do it yourself without stealing the code from another site.

Get a life and a real designer while you are at it....



kretsminky
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From: A little lower... lower... ahhhhhh, thats the spot
Insane since: Jun 2000

posted posted 11-10-2000 23:52

He he he I sent this to CBSnews...

Just curious to whether or not you know that http://www.kisskiss.com is making a clip of a Dan Rather commentary available off their website?

They have had lots of problems stealing other people's work so I thought you might want to know.

Oh, they also said he sounded drunk.

Goodbye


HA HA HA HA! What a tattletail! I love it!

[This message has been edited by kretsminky (edited 11-10-2000).]

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