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Slime
Lunatic (VI) Mad Scientist

From: Massachusetts, USA
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 01-03-2001 21:28

Just thought I'd mention that the old "OZONE" graphic is still at the top of the "search" page.

kretsminky
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From: A little lower... lower... ahhhhhh, thats the spot
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posted posted 01-03-2001 21:46

Picky picky picky

DocOzone
Maniac (V) Lord Mad Scientist
Sovereign of all the lands Ozone and just beyond that little green line over there...

From: Stockholm, Sweden
Insane since: Mar 1994

posted posted 01-04-2001 01:27

Yah, I think I noticed that myself, heh. I'm deep into other hacks at the moment, trying to do silly detail oriented stuff, I can't be bothered with glaring inconsistencies! Heh. Well, meybe I can. Thanks for reminding me Slime! I'll track that down next.

Your pal, -doc-

DL-44
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: under the bed
Insane since: Feb 2000

posted posted 01-04-2001 01:41

yeah, it's at the top of the "today's active topics" page too.

DocOzone
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From: Stockholm, Sweden
Insane since: Mar 1994

posted posted 01-04-2001 11:52

Ouch, so it is. This is why you never ask just one person to debug anything, it's too easy to simply do the same things over and over! I was once infamous amongst the programmers I worked with for being able to crash their precious programs in about 30 seconds or less. "Enter a number", they'd say. I'd type my name. <crash/burn/hehheh>

Your pal, -doc-

DL-44
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From: under the bed
Insane since: Feb 2000

posted posted 01-04-2001 14:06

lol

rotten bastard

mr.maX
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From: Belgrade, Serbia
Insane since: Sep 2000

posted posted 01-04-2001 17:50

Those programmers should have used the famous "try except end" block, like I always do in my Windows applications...

Bugimus
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: New California
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 01-04-2001 22:43

A colleague asked me to help test an Oracle Forms application the other day. I brought it up and to her horror I began hitting every key and clicking every mouse button I could think of in the most outrageous sequence possible. She asked me what I was doing and I explained that I was doing her a favor. I would rather have a friend find my errors than the users once I release a tool.

The extra cool part was that her application held together just fine She had employed plenty of error checking and exception logic like what you mentioned Mr. Max.

Pugzly
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: 127.0.0.1
Insane since: Apr 2000

posted posted 01-05-2001 01:33

Doc - Do tell all the hacks you're doing!

I'm about half way through all the hacks to a new forums for gurusnetwork.com - maybe we could compare notes.

Pat Richard
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http://www.gurusnetwork.com
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DL-44
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: under the bed
Insane since: Feb 2000

posted posted 01-05-2001 02:51

Don't tell him Doc! Squash the opposition!

oh wait.....nevermind

Rick
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From: Borneo Island
Insane since: Apr 2000

posted posted 01-05-2001 03:19

Yup..the Gurusnetwork need it too

DocOzone
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Sovereign of all the lands Ozone and just beyond that little green line over there...

From: Stockholm, Sweden
Insane since: Mar 1994

posted posted 01-05-2001 11:25

OK, I know the hacks I did, kinda. The main problem is that they are *not* neat, the code in this unit is ugly, lots and lots of hard coded ugliness thatI had to track down and eliminate.

For instance, the copyright formatting for InfoPop was hard coded in about 25 places, and it was always just a bit different! Rather than try and "fix" this bit of ugliness I used the find tool to locate all of them, and one by one deleted them all. (I added their copyright link to my copyright info, which seems to work just fine.)

The input forms were probably one of the easier hacks to make, there were only 3 places this big input textarea showed up, and all I needed to do was add...

style="width:100%"

Most all of the rest of the pretty formatting for the forms is doen with the stylesheet, in the control panel, as in...

INPUT,password {
BORDER-TOP: #FC6203 1px outset;
BORDER-LEFT: #FC6203 1px outset;

BORDER-BOTTOM: #BD4901 1px inset;
BORDER-RIGHT: #BD4901 1px inset;
FONT-SIZE: 10px; font-weight:bold; COLOR: #FC6203; FONT-FAMILY: verdana,arial; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #240000;
}
TEXTAREA {
BORDER-TOP: #FC6203 1px outset;
BORDER-LEFT: #FC6203 1px outset;

BORDER-BOTTOM: #BD4901 1px inset;
BORDER-RIGHT: #BD4901 1px inset;
FONT-SIZE: 10px; font-weight:bold; COLOR: #FC6203; FONT-FAMILY: verdana,arial; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #240000;
}
TEXTAREA.inputbox {
FONT-FAMILY: verdana,arial; PADDING: 4px 4px 4px 4px;
}
SELECT {
FONT-SIZE: 10px; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY: verdana,arial; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #cbc6c3
}
.checky {
COLOR: #FC6203; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #320808
}

That last bit was another drawn-out hack, I had to do a global search and add a style to the checkboxes to keep them from going all orange, yuck. ( type="checkbox" class=checky)

The border attributes were tricky, you can't just do border "inset" all around, if you want a consistent look you need to do two of them as "outset". (go figger.) I'll look around and see if I can even remember just what I changed and where, I've doen a lot of brute force hacking on this thing, ruthlessly eliminating options I don't like.

Your pal, -doc-

Slime
Lunatic (VI) Mad Scientist

From: Massachusetts, USA
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 01-05-2001 20:49

Doc, try using "solid" instead of "inset" or "outset."

DocOzone
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Sovereign of all the lands Ozone and just beyond that little green line over there...

From: Stockholm, Sweden
Insane since: Mar 1994

posted posted 01-06-2001 12:35

Ah! That sounds like a good idea. Guess it makes sense to RTFM rather than simply intuiting the proper syntax, heh. Thanks Slime!

Your pal, -doc-

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