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Bugimus
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: New California
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 12-06-2001 20:41

Has anybody seen this yet? http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,48818,00.html

Does this look like it might be the next step for us?

InI
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Somewhere over the rainbow
Insane since: Mar 2001

posted posted 12-06-2001 21:10

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Perfect Thunder
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Milwaukee
Insane since: Oct 2001

posted posted 12-06-2001 21:17

There's been a great deal of talk lately about how the future of markup will be an ever-greater division between structural markup (HTML/XHTML/XML) and layout markup (CSS/XSLT). This will let data flow more intelligently, speed development, ease revision, and cure measles. Curl, as a "one internet language," sounds like the exact opposite. Expect fierce ideological and practical opposition if it makes any real strides.

InI
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Somewhere over the rainbow
Insane since: Mar 2001

posted posted 12-06-2001 22:04

The poster has demanded we remove all his contributions, less he takes legal action.
We have done so.
Now Tyberius Prime expects him to start complaining that we removed his 'free speech' since this message will replace all of his posts, past and future.
Don't follow his example - seek real life help first.

Emperor
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Cell 53, East Wing
Insane since: Jul 2001

posted posted 12-06-2001 22:10

I thought this had been discussed before. I believe it is Curl that provides a free browser plugin (Surge) but charges the site for every byte of Curl code the user downloads - see pricing:
www.curl.com/html/products/pricing.jsp?c1=46

It looks to be $0.0005 per kilobyte. They are a bit cagey about the minimum monthly fee too intial reports said it was $1000/month but they aren't specific (actually it is all explained in the last link).

and some articles:
www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99991122
www.cosmiverse.com/tech08080102.html
www.technologyreview.com/magazine/sep01/innovation2.asp

but see:
www.curlbreaker.com/vol_1_issue_1/features/cover/thecostofcurl.php

Oh well we'll see (I suspect the charging business will kill it but only time will tell).

Emps


You're my wife now Dave

butcher
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: New Jersey, USA
Insane since: Oct 2000

posted posted 12-06-2001 22:22

Thanks for that last link Emperor.

I was checking out the CURL site and got scared away from even trying it because of the vague pricing outlines. I have enough to pay for my little hosting without paying for the language I code in. Now that I've read the article from that link, I may download it to play around with.

Thanks for the heads up on this one Bugs!

-Butcher-

InSiDeR
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Oblivion
Insane since: Sep 2001

posted posted 12-06-2001 22:30

seems like sh*t to me... a scam too

Emperor
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Cell 53, East Wing
Insane since: Jul 2001

posted posted 12-07-2001 11:28

butcher: The charges are pretty low or nonexistent for everyone but medium to large business but I can see that as only the first part of their rolling out of a charging structure. I wonder what would happen in a few years time when everyone is using Curl and the nice technological orientated people have been ousted from the board and replaced by accountants who are only interested in the bottom line (no offence to anyone accounts here!!) and they start jacking up the charges. OK a nightmare scenario but once people are used to it then it would be tricky going back to the way we do it today.

I think the best bet is still to promote the upgrading of browsers and the writing of good quality crossbrowser code which is what is being done anyway. I can't see that there is a problem that needs fixing so I don't see the need for this.

Emps


You're my wife now Dave

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