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DocOzone
Maniac (V) Lord Mad Scientist
Sovereign of all the lands Ozone and just beyond that little green line over there...

From: Stockholm, Sweden
Insane since: Mar 1994

posted posted 04-21-2002 12:54

More on Gogle-bombs can be found at http://www.microcontentnews.com/articles/googlebombs.htm
And also http://www.ozoneasylum.com/Forum1/HTML/003839.html

I've taken my two most popular sites (in terms of traffic and linking) OZONE and Handson.nu, and added this line to the default copyright wording inserted on every page...

<a href="http://www.ozoneasylum.com/">Mad Scientists</a><br>

I think using the plural of scientists makes more sense, I know I'd be more likely to use that as a search parameter than the singular. This could be fun, I've been dying to come up with some kind Google bomb for us to play with! If all goes well, we could be the top listing in case anyone searches for the search terms "Mad Scientists". Add this to your page, and let's play!


Your pal, -doc-



[This message has been edited by DocOzone (edited 04-21-2002).]

Schitzoboy
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Yes
Insane since: Feb 2001

posted posted 04-21-2002 13:19

I got mine http://wind.prohosting.com/thedorm/links.shtml

GRUMBLE
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Omicron Persei 8
Insane since: Oct 2000

posted posted 04-21-2002 13:36

done. http://www.embege.com

this gonna be fun....

Schitzoboy
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Yes
Insane since: Feb 2001

posted posted 04-21-2002 13:58

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Mad+Scientists&btnG=Google+Search is the search. www.ozoneasylum.com is currently on the top of page 11

Tyberius Prime
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Germany
Insane since: Sep 2001

posted posted 04-21-2002 14:50

www.coonabibba.de - done... there's not much on it, but at least google visits it from time to time...

Dracusis
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Brisbane, Australia
Insane since: Apr 2001

posted posted 04-21-2002 15:34

Woo Hoo! Two from the bottom of page 10 now!

Stromin up da charts!

Arthemis
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Milky Way
Insane since: Nov 2001

posted posted 04-21-2002 18:21

wow...
you go girls!

lallous
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Lebanon
Insane since: May 2001

posted posted 04-21-2002 19:39

from http://www.uber.nu/2001/04/06/

quote:
2. Whenever you update your site, which should be approximately three to five times a week, be sure to include the following HTML at some point:

Andy <a href="http://www.ohmessylife.com">"talentless hack">/a< Pressman



but that an invalid <a> tag isn't it?


brucew
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: North Coast of America
Insane since: Dec 2001

posted posted 04-22-2002 03:41

Bombs away!
brucew.com

"the most incredible feats are often accomplished by
those who have had the most incredible challenges"

[This message has been edited by brucew (edited 04-22-2002).]

Suho1004
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Seoul, Korea
Insane since: Apr 2002

posted posted 04-22-2002 04:16

Oh, how I wish my website were up and running. I will add this as soon as I do get it online, since Google bombs have a tendency to degrade over time (or at least that's what I've heard)--that way I can help keep the Asylum at the top, if it ever gets there.

(Well, I don't want to burst anyone's bubble, but I just did a Google search on "mad scientists," and we have slipped to the top of page 11. Personally, I don't think I've ever gone to the eleventh page of a Google search (Just to give you an example of how low page 11 is, "Mathematicians of the African Diaspora" made it to page 6). Either the rate at which links go up is going to have to increase or this bomb is going to fizzle quickly. Personally, I would suggest something more obscure, or something that already has a good positioning on Google--a search on "ozone," for example, turns up a page in www.ozones.com on page 2. But I would try obscurity first, ala "talentless hack.")

Slime
Lunatic (VI) Mad Scientist

From: Massachusetts, USA
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 04-22-2002 05:02

I assume google isn't smart enough to ignore

<a href="http://www.ozoneasylum.com/" style="display:none; visibility:hidden;">Mad Scientists</a>

?

Sash
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Canada, Toronto
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 04-22-2002 05:17

Slime, definitely not

Sasha »

Slime
Lunatic (VI) Mad Scientist

From: Massachusetts, USA
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 04-22-2002 06:16

Hahahaha =)

GRUMBLE
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Omicron Persei 8
Insane since: Oct 2000

posted posted 04-22-2002 23:13

so, how are we coming?
how often is google updating?

Synthetic
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: under your rug,
Insane since: Jul 2001

posted posted 04-23-2002 00:28

Sure why not, Http://www.xtrae.com

Suho1004
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Seoul, Korea
Insane since: Apr 2002

posted posted 04-23-2002 03:16

Alas, we are slipping. We are now number three on page eleven...

Sash
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Canada, Toronto
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 04-23-2002 03:29

Page 10 or 11 is really irrelevant right now. I think it depends on the server you are hitting at the moment. Updates don't come so fast. We will have to wait a month or two to see results.

Sasha »

maninacan
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Seattle, WA, USA
Insane since: Oct 2001

posted posted 04-23-2002 03:32

hey, lets google bomb blacksoulsunday.com that'd be great

kewl

Mad Scientist

benev
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: New Jersey, USA
Insane since: Jan 2002

posted posted 04-23-2002 03:49

added

My Site...

Raptor
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: A², MI, USA
Insane since: Nov 2001

posted posted 04-24-2002 01:15

Speaking of Google bombs, I found this slightly humorous. All those pr0n sites really bumped Yahoo! up there eh?

DocOzone
Maniac (V) Lord Mad Scientist
Sovereign of all the lands Ozone and just beyond that little green line over there...

From: Stockholm, Sweden
Insane since: Mar 1994

posted posted 04-24-2002 10:59

I decided to try and help this project along, ading this search term to all of the titles of all of the pages here, heh heh. We are still #101 out of about 183,000 but I still have high hopes!

Your pal, -doc-

GRUMBLE
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Omicron Persei 8
Insane since: Oct 2000

posted posted 04-24-2002 11:08

cool doc!
i think it needs some time...
but once we are racing up it might get faster...

Emperor
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Cell 53, East Wing
Insane since: Jul 2001

posted posted 04-24-2002 15:15

It might also help if this page was submitted to Google so it can follow the links to the links (hmmm..).

Keep an eye on this:
www.sitecook.com/cgi-bin/go.rb?domain=www.ozoneasylum.com&phrase1=Mad&phrase2=Scientists

Slime: As far as I'm aware that works a treat (I'd add font-size: 0px; too just to be sure) - one good idea I had a while back was to add such hidden text to the 'link to me' buttons like the ones across the bottom of this page. Adding keywords like e.g. 'Photoshop, coding, PHP, tutorials' should help boost the GN's ratings.

Emps

DigitalUbiquity
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: St. Paul, MN, USA
Insane since: Jan 2002

posted posted 04-24-2002 20:26

Added to http://www.jasonstahl.net at the bottom of every page

DigitalUbiquity

magicaldog
Obsessive-Compulsive (I) Inmate

From: Malmö, Sweden
Insane since: Apr 2002

posted posted 04-25-2002 01:47

Added at www.studiobergman.com

Skaarjj
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: :morF
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 04-25-2002 03:44

Arrgghh! We've gone down! We're now at hte bottom of page 10!

Koan 63:
Those who Believe
Can
Those who Try
Do
Those who Love
Live

Skaarjj
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: :morF
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 04-25-2002 03:47

Or maybe we've gone up? (now that I've gone back and read the posts properly). I agree though that we should try something obscure first, maybe 'Maniacal Laugh'?



Koan 63:
Those who Believe
Can
Those who Try
Do
Those who Love
Live

Sash
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Canada, Toronto
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 04-25-2002 03:49

Don't worry man, nothing has changed yet really. Google is not that fast in updating their indexed pages.

Sasha »

GRUMBLE
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Omicron Persei 8
Insane since: Oct 2000

posted posted 04-25-2002 19:23

infact, google seems to be really slow with updating indexpages...
nothing has changed in the last few days.

Dark
Neurotic (0) Inmate
Newly admitted
posted posted 04-26-2002 13:44

This sounds pretty interesting. I'll add it to the new design.

Dark

Wyvern
Nervous Wreck (II) Inmate

From: aussie land
Insane since: Jun 2001

posted posted 04-26-2002 14:39

does linking the asylum in a weblog count? cos i could do that everyday. i'm too lazy to add it to all my websites but i wanna help out. i blog everyday and each entry has its own page. so if i link the asylum with that link at the end of every entry, will that work?


O..o

DocOzone
Maniac (V) Lord Mad Scientist
Sovereign of all the lands Ozone and just beyond that little green line over there...

From: Stockholm, Sweden
Insane since: Mar 1994

posted posted 04-26-2002 14:45

Actually, in most of the discussions about the concept behind GoogleBombing, they used web logs as one of the main vehicles for making these things work. If you were to post a link on your weblog posts, and other people had these "friends" pages, as in www.Livejournal.com then that link text could end up on thousands of new pages every day. Google is supposedly looking into ways to work around this, but it's not easy to differentiate between hard-coded pages and auto-generated pages. Go for it! Love the idea, wish my weblog was more active (maybe if I actually posted to it more than once every few months? ;-)

Your pal, -doc-

GRUMBLE
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Omicron Persei 8
Insane since: Oct 2000

posted posted 04-28-2002 14:00

can it be????
we are going down!

page15 now!

DocOzone
Maniac (V) Lord Mad Scientist
Sovereign of all the lands Ozone and just beyond that little green line over there...

From: Stockholm, Sweden
Insane since: Mar 1994

posted posted 04-28-2002 14:23

Weird, maybe we've discovered the dark side of the google-bomb backlash? I know they'd been searching for ways to not get caught out on these types of spoofs, this is interesting, maybe we can learn something new? Imagine, doing an anti-google-bomb on your competitors site! Heh heh. I'm still interested in keeping this experiment active, I don't know what, but I'm sure we'll learn something!

Your pal, -doc-

Sash
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Canada, Toronto
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 04-28-2002 15:44

Maybe I am an optimist, but I think we have to wait on the next round when Google updates their data base. What you see now is based on the situation in early April or so.
Most likely, our updated pages with the "mad scientists" link were not crawled yet.
Just do the search for your site, wherever you added the "mad scientists" link, and view your site by clicking on "cached". You will see if the link appears or not.

Sasha »

Emperor
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Cell 53, East Wing
Insane since: Jul 2001

posted posted 04-28-2002 16:37

I've added it to my sig at the GN first post here:
www.gurusnetwork.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=9;t=000307

For people with buttons here try swapping the code for something like this:

code:
<a href="http://www.OzoneAsylum.com/cgi-bin/Ultimate.cgi" target="_top"><img 
src="asylum.gif" height=31 width=88 border=0 alt="Ozones Asylum, home of the Mad
Scientists" title="Ozones Asylum, home of the Mad Scientists" /><span style="font-size:0px;
display:none; visibility:hidden;">Ozones Asylum, home of the Mad Scientists</span></a>



In fact for even more relevance change the name of the button to mad_scientists.gif as well.

In fact while you are at it do the same for the GN and HandsOn - throw keywords in like Photoshop and tutorials (as well as Flash, PHP, Javascript, etc. where appropriate).

Doc: You might want to try the revist-after meta tag and set the content for only a few days:

code:
<meta name="revisit-after" content="3" />



Possibly writing Google bomb all over this thread might not be helping but I doubt it!!

Wyvern: Check out the reference to blogrolling in the first link at the top of the page - that kind of thing really makes a difference.

[edit: to kill HSBoD]

Emps

[This message has been edited by Emperor (edited 04-28-2002).]

GRUMBLE
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Omicron Persei 8
Insane since: Oct 2000

posted posted 04-28-2002 19:14

ahem emps, maybe you shouldnt call the link "bomb test". maybe some google employee might notice that....

Emperor
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Cell 53, East Wing
Insane since: Jul 2001

posted posted 04-28-2002 21:58

GRUMBLE: Possibly a good idea (I'll change it!!) although they'd probably find this thread quite quickly too!! Its sort of replying on the robot indexing otherwise the human would read this page a bump us.

Emps

Sash
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Canada, Toronto
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 04-28-2002 23:06

I don't see a reason why Google would be upset about those things. It is their algorithm, it works fine, and it is a perfect example of the democracy on the web.

Sasha »

Suho1004
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Seoul, Korea
Insane since: Apr 2002

posted posted 04-29-2002 09:59

Sash has a good point--the whole idea of the Google algorithm is to rank sites according to how popular they are on the web. "Google bombing" may be explicitly taking advantage of this, but isn't it really the same thing in the end? We're just helping the process along.

(I've also stopped checking to see where we are, lest I give Sash an ulcer .)

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