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Trigger
Paranoid (IV) Inmate
From: Insane since: Jun 2002
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posted 07-22-2002 12:21
i know this kind of off topic for the Asylum hence there being no reffrence to it in the forum or in the FAQ . Im major novice to proggraming i've just learnt Qbasic and well it's kind of dated so I was directed towards learning Visual Basic's for more "Functional applications" so does anyone in the asylum have any reccomendation on Books or Websites for learning VB??
Anyone help would be appreciated as always 
Thanks
Trigger
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CPrompt
Maniac (V) Inmate
From: there...no..there..... Insane since: May 2001
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posted 07-22-2002 14:01
There are a ton of sites and books out there but since the development of .NET, I haven't done much with VB.
If I can suggest one book it would be Francisco Balaena (sp?) book Programming Visual Baisc 6.0 It is a great book and covers everything.
As far as web sites, I will post some when I get home tonight.
Later,
C:\
~Binary is best~
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Trigger
Paranoid (IV) Inmate
From: Insane since: Jun 2002
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posted 07-24-2002 17:49
Cprompt did you neer get home ???
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CPrompt
Maniac (V) Inmate
From: there...no..there..... Insane since: May 2001
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posted 07-24-2002 19:32
haha! Man I suck! I can't remember shit anymore. That chemically induced past is really starting to catch up with me.
I have some time now on my lunch break, I'll go through and post them.
Later,
C:\
~Binary is best~
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CPrompt
Maniac (V) Inmate
From: there...no..there..... Insane since: May 2001
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posted 07-24-2002 19:38
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Trigger
Paranoid (IV) Inmate
From: Insane since: Jun 2002
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posted 07-25-2002 10:57
Thanks for that CPompt ill take a look at them
as soon as i finsh learning about SSI
anyway Thanks once agian
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OlssonE
Maniac (V) Inmate
From: Eagleshieldsbay, Sweden Insane since: Nov 2001
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posted 07-25-2002 12:19
Well I think http://code.box.sk works
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InI
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist
From: Somewhere over the rainbow Insane since: Mar 2001
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posted 07-25-2002 12:28
The poster has demanded we remove all his contributions, less he takes legal action.
We have done so.
Now Tyberius Prime expects him to start complaining that we removed his 'free speech' since this message will replace all of his posts, past and future.
Don't follow his example - seek real life help first.
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CPrompt
Maniac (V) Inmate
From: there...no..there..... Insane since: May 2001
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posted 07-25-2002 13:45
I like VB. I started out on it. Now that I look back, it is a language all to itself really. At least everything pre .NET
I really wish that I would have started off learning C instead. It was real hard to switch doing other languages.
Later,
C:\
~Binary is best~
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Slime
Lunatic (VI) Mad Scientist
From: Massachusetts, USA Insane since: Mar 2000
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posted 07-25-2002 13:54
I think VB is a good learning language. It's what I started off on, except for a tiny bit of C++.
But if you already have Basic down, then I don't think there's much advantage to learning VB unless you're going to use it for something that specifically requires it. Otherwise, I'd recommend learning C++. Maybe Java...
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Trigger
Paranoid (IV) Inmate
From: Insane since: Jun 2002
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posted 07-25-2002 13:58
Shall i just stick to learning Qbasic then and not bother with VB?
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someoneInverse
Bipolar (III) Inmate
From: Insane since: May 2002
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posted 07-25-2002 14:05
wha?
I never said nothin'....
but for the record I agree with you InI; the wrox books are great and vb does indeed blow goats - but you've got to admit that it's not a bad place to begin a programming career before you move onto the propper oo languages
oh and the "visual basic black book" (ISBN: 1576102831) isn't bad as well
have a nice day 
I:.
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GRUMBLE
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist
From: Omicron Persei 8 Insane since: Oct 2000
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posted 07-25-2002 18:07
forget QBasic! its dying!
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Slime
Lunatic (VI) Mad Scientist
From: Massachusetts, USA Insane since: Mar 2000
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posted 07-25-2002 18:12
Don't stick to QBasic. If it's a choice between QBasic and VB, use VB. I'm just saying if you have a choice you should learn a language that's more widely used, and more powerful.
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Trigger
Paranoid (IV) Inmate
From: Insane since: Jun 2002
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posted 07-25-2002 21:17
Like what? i want to start on something simple.. so then i've got some where to work from when i want ot learn C++
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Slime
Lunatic (VI) Mad Scientist
From: Massachusetts, USA Insane since: Mar 2000
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posted 07-25-2002 21:27
Actually, Javascript wouldn't hurt, to do a little of that on the side. The syntax is very similar to C++, and you can learn a little about object-oriented programming.
You may want to use VB as a step towards C++. If you're *really good* with QBasic, then don't bother. But if programming is still difficult in some ways, then using VB for a while might help some.
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Trigger
Paranoid (IV) Inmate
From: Insane since: Jun 2002
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posted 07-25-2002 22:04
well im intrsting in learning Javascript 2.. thing is i want to learn so many things all at the same time
PHP,Perl , VB,C++,Javascript,
and more :S i've got to try and find a order that might even make learning the others slightly eaiser ,,
but its like sensrory over load
i've been trying to learn PHP and VB at the same time and its just not working out
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CPrompt
Maniac (V) Inmate
From: there...no..there..... Insane since: May 2001
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posted 07-26-2002 01:19
Trigger:
I know what you mean. I tried to learn a lot in a little bit of time. Take a look at it this way. What is it that you want to accomplish? Do you want to do Web applications or Windows Applications?
If you want to do "web" stuff. Go with JavaScript as a starting point. It is a great way to jump start and get the hang of things like "object oriented programming". Then you can move on to C++ and then Perl and throwing PHP in there too.
If you want to do Windows apps, go with VB all the way. You can make some GREAT apps with VB. I have made all kinds of things using VB. It is great for linking up with like an Access database as well as a lot of other things.
So it really depends on what you want to do.
I wouldn't do more than two really. VB for Windows and JavaScript for Web. I think that is a good starting routine. That is where I am right now. I am not the greatest programmer by any means, but I do know a bit about VB and am working on more of a knowledge in JavaScript and PHP.
Hope that helps.
Later,
C:\
~Binary is best~
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lacapaca
Nervous Wreck (II) Inmate
From: home sweet home Insane since: Jun 2002
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posted 07-26-2002 01:51
i read some stuff here that quite frankly pisses me off 
so here it goes...
first of all, trigger, i say forget VB, i think with qbasic you just about had enogh of basic. i admit it's harder to learn c++ or java, but it pay off in the end. trust me.
next, javascript has absolutely NOTHING to do with object oriented programming. the core of oop (inheritance, polymorphism) is clearly missing. true, you can create objects, but that's about it. they say javascript is object based, whatever that means (i guess beacuse it uses objects ).
(c++ is object oriented, but not purely. java on the other hand is a pure oop language)
if you'd learn c++ first, things like PHP, javascript will seam like 'piece of cake' and you'd just KNOw after that what a real shit VB is. GREAT apps in VB? get real! i guess you can make a decent LOOKING app in about 5 minutes. but you'll end up with an overbloated, buggy and sloooow code. not to mention it will need vbrun to run.
one last time: FOR PETE'S SAKE, DON'T WASTE YOUR TIMe ON VB!!!
phheww. bygone now go and learn c++ 
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CPrompt
Maniac (V) Inmate
From: there...no..there..... Insane since: May 2001
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posted 07-26-2002 03:58
Well I'm glad you cleared that up lacapaca. 
Later,
C:\
~Binary is best~
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Trigger
Paranoid (IV) Inmate
From: Insane since: Jun 2002
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posted 07-26-2002 09:24
Ok guys... after being scared shitless by laca's post .
I wonderded if Laca's ever considred anger mangement j/k 
anyway ok....
ill take a look at C++ no doubt it will bog me down way to much and confuse the hell out of me so ill go onto Javascript , then php with perl??
and then over to C++ ? and then ill put VB to the side untill iget bored
but i've also been told pythons good to start to C++
Ie
Start with python and then go onto to C++ anyone got an opinon on this one ?
no doubt everyone has 
[This message has been edited by Trigger (edited 07-26-2002).]
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