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Petskull Maniac (V) Mad Scientist From: 127 Halcyon Road, Marenia, Atlantis Insane since: Aug 2000	posted 08-02-2002 16:50 I want to get my MCSE and CCNA certifications.... Any good book I should try? Code - CGI - links - DHTML - Javascript - Perl - programming - Magic - http://www.twistedport.com ICQ: 67751342
InI Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist From: Somewhere over the rainbow Insane since: Mar 2001	posted 08-02-2002 16:54 The poster has demanded we remove all his contributions, less he takes legal action. We have done so. Now Tyberius Prime expects him to start complaining that we removed his 'free speech' since this message will replace all of his posts, past and future. Don't follow his example - seek real life help first.
Nimraw Paranoid (IV) Inmate From: Styx Insane since: Sep 2000	posted 08-02-2002 17:08 INI: CCNA = Cisco Certified Network Associate
InI Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist From: Somewhere over the rainbow Insane since: Mar 2001	posted 08-02-2002 17:10 The poster has demanded we remove all his contributions, less he takes legal action. We have done so. Now Tyberius Prime expects him to start complaining that we removed his 'free speech' since this message will replace all of his posts, past and future. Don't follow his example - seek real life help first.
Pugzly Paranoid (IV) Inmate From: 127.0.0.1 Insane since: Apr 2000	posted 08-02-2002 17:34 I've got both. The best books to use are the Sybex books. You can get them from Amazon. Some that I would recommend are: MCSA MCSE: Windows 2000 Network Management Study Guide with CDROM MCSE: Windows 2000 Network Infrastructure Administration Study Guide (2nd edition) MCSE Training Kit: Designing Microsoft Windows 2000 Network Security Stay away from Exam Cram books. They are notoriously full of errors, typos, and other misinformation. Hope this helps. INI - That might have been the CCIE course. New CCIE's starting salary averages $125,000. And half of them are employed by Cisco. Last time I checked, the backlog for the practical was over 1 year, and it's only given in certain places (only three locations in the US).
InI Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist From: Somewhere over the rainbow Insane since: Mar 2001	posted 08-02-2002 17:42 The poster has demanded we remove all his contributions, less he takes legal action. We have done so. Now Tyberius Prime expects him to start complaining that we removed his 'free speech' since this message will replace all of his posts, past and future. Don't follow his example - seek real life help first.
eyezaer Lunatic (VI) Mad Scientist From: the Psychiatric Ward Insane since: Sep 2000	posted 08-02-2002 18:05 good Gosh.
SPyX Bipolar (III) Inmate From: College Station, TX Insane since: Aug 2002	posted 08-02-2002 19:48 The test for CCNA costs about $130 I believe. I took a two hour a day class my senior year in high school. This class was sponsored by Cisco and I made mostly A's in it. I still didn't pass the test. You have to know how to work on Cisco's router interface and I can't imagine learning that adaquately through a book. I would personally look into a local community college.
ramsaydesigns Bipolar (III) Inmate From: The Mountains Insane since: Jul 2002	posted 08-03-2002 00:29 . [This message has been edited by ramsaydesigns (edited 08-04-2002).]
Adrock Bipolar (III) Inmate From: Yup Insane since: Feb 2002	posted 08-03-2002 01:45 There are online academys you can get your CCNA through which is not hard. Then there are the CCNPs which is about as far as most people get. There are less than 6,000 CCIEs in the entire world so maybe that is what the guy at your company has now. As far as the CCNAs you can take crash courses through places like Horizon or Software Spectrum for about 2,000 and have it in a couple days. or you can go the cheaper, but longer route, and take it through cisco which is 4 semesters but you really do learn your stuff.
ramsaydesigns Bipolar (III) Inmate From: The Mountains Insane since: Jul 2002	posted 08-03-2002 02:16 . [This message has been edited by ramsaydesigns (edited 08-04-2002).]
maninacan Paranoid (IV) Inmate From: Seattle, WA, USA Insane since: Oct 2001	posted 08-03-2002 02:27 http://cisco.netacad.net My highschool does their cisco course through there, for the whole thing it's 4 semesters 1 hour class a day. My friend completed the first semester, was in the second semester, and already had a job doing it. Maninacan Cell #471 behmer
Pugzly Paranoid (IV) Inmate From: 127.0.0.1 Insane since: Apr 2000	posted 08-03-2002 03:29 quote: There's 7737 CCIEs in the world. That's so insane. Anyone who is Cisco Certified at the Professional level and up is a complete nerd. I'm a nerd! There are some nice router simulator programs out that let you do just about anything that a Cisco router can do. They're kinda cool, and I would recommend them if you're serious. Some nice CBT stuff out, like LearnKey as well.
NoJive Maniac (V) Inmate From: The Land of one Headlight on. Insane since: May 2001	posted 08-03-2002 14:11 router simulator programs http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=router+simulator+programs+&btnG=Google+Search
el_Grande Paranoid (IV) Inmate From: The land up and over. Insane since: Dec 2000	posted 08-03-2002 15:36 spyx, my high school got the same program 2 years ago. It was pretty cool; learned lots of stuff. We got semester A and B at school over the course of a year. If we got atleast 85% in each semester then we could take semester C and D at a 50% discounted price from Cisco. It was a great deal. Really nice of Cisco to offer something like that. The two teachers that taught the course had to take the 2 semesters in 2 months over summer break. They said it was crazy trying to learn all that in such a short time; then the summer after they were offered the remaing 2 semesters for free. Tell me that isn't a good deal. EG
SPyX Bipolar (III) Inmate From: College Station, TX Insane since: Aug 2002	posted 08-03-2002 21:37 Yeah that's exactly the class I took. Only mine was compressed into two hours a day = 2 semesters worth of material in 1 semester. I knew my stuff, but they changed the test this year so all the preping I did that was based on the old test was for nil. So now if I want to try again I gotta pay the full $130 bucks

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Petskull
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: 127 Halcyon Road, Marenia, Atlantis
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted 08-02-2002 16:50

I want to get my MCSE and CCNA certifications....

Any good book I should try?

Code - CGI - links - DHTML - Javascript - Perl - programming - Magic - http://www.twistedport.com
ICQ: 67751342

InI
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Somewhere over the rainbow
Insane since: Mar 2001

posted 08-02-2002 16:54

The poster has demanded we remove all his contributions, less he takes legal action.
We have done so.
Now Tyberius Prime expects him to start complaining that we removed his 'free speech' since this message will replace all of his posts, past and future.
Don't follow his example - seek real life help first.

Nimraw
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Styx
Insane since: Sep 2000

posted 08-02-2002 17:08

INI:

CCNA = Cisco Certified Network Associate

InI
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Somewhere over the rainbow
Insane since: Mar 2001

posted 08-02-2002 17:10

Pugzly
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: 127.0.0.1
Insane since: Apr 2000

posted 08-02-2002 17:34

I've got both. The best books to use are the Sybex books. You can get them from
Amazon.

Some that I would recommend are:

MCSA MCSE: Windows 2000 Network Management Study Guide with CDROM

MCSE: Windows 2000 Network Infrastructure Administration Study Guide (2nd edition)

MCSE Training Kit: Designing Microsoft Windows 2000 Network Security

Stay away from Exam Cram books. They are notoriously full of errors, typos, and other misinformation.

Hope this helps.

INI - That might have been the CCIE course. New CCIE's starting salary averages $125,000. And half of them are employed by Cisco. Last time I checked, the backlog for the practical was over 1 year, and it's only given in certain places (only three locations in the US).

InI
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Somewhere over the rainbow
Insane since: Mar 2001

posted 08-02-2002 17:42

eyezaer
Lunatic (VI) Mad Scientist

From: the Psychiatric Ward
Insane since: Sep 2000

posted 08-02-2002 18:05

good Gosh.

SPyX
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: College Station, TX
Insane since: Aug 2002

posted 08-02-2002 19:48

The test for CCNA costs about $130 I believe. I took a two hour a day class my senior year in high school. This class was sponsored by Cisco and I made mostly A's in it. I still didn't pass the test. You have to know how to work on Cisco's router interface and I can't imagine learning that adaquately through a book. I would personally look into a local community college.

ramsaydesigns
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: The Mountains
Insane since: Jul 2002

posted 08-03-2002 00:29

.

[This message has been edited by ramsaydesigns (edited 08-04-2002).]

Adrock
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Yup
Insane since: Feb 2002

posted 08-03-2002 01:45

There are online academys you can get your CCNA through which is not hard. Then there are the CCNPs which is about as far as most people get. There are less than 6,000 CCIEs in the entire world so maybe that is what the guy at your company has now. As far as the CCNAs you can take crash courses through places like Horizon or Software Spectrum for about 2,000 and have it in a couple days. or you can go the cheaper, but longer route, and take it through cisco which is 4 semesters but you really do learn your stuff.

ramsaydesigns
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: The Mountains
Insane since: Jul 2002

posted 08-03-2002 02:16

.

[This message has been edited by ramsaydesigns (edited 08-04-2002).]

maninacan
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Seattle, WA, USA
Insane since: Oct 2001

posted 08-03-2002 02:27

http://cisco.netacad.net My highschool does their cisco course through there, for the whole thing it's 4 semesters 1 hour class a day. My friend completed the first semester, was in the second semester, and already had a job doing it.

Maninacan Cell #471
behmer

Pugzly
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: 127.0.0.1
Insane since: Apr 2000

posted 08-03-2002 03:29

quote:
There's 7737 CCIEs in the world. That's so insane. Anyone who is Cisco Certified at the Professional level and up is a complete nerd.

I'm a nerd!

There are some nice router simulator programs out that let you do just about anything that a Cisco router can do. They're kinda cool, and I would recommend them if you're serious. Some nice CBT stuff out, like LearnKey as well.

NoJive
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: The Land of one Headlight on.
Insane since: May 2001

posted 08-03-2002 14:11

router simulator programs
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=router+simulator+programs+&btnG=Google+Search

el_Grande
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: The land up and over.
Insane since: Dec 2000

posted 08-03-2002 15:36

spyx, my high school got the same program 2 years ago. It was pretty cool; learned lots of stuff.

We got semester A and B at school over the course of a year. If we got atleast 85% in each semester then we could take semester C and D at a 50% discounted price from Cisco. It was a great deal. Really nice of Cisco to offer something like that. The two teachers that taught the course had to take the 2 semesters in 2 months over summer break. They said it was crazy trying to learn all that in such a short time; then the summer after they were offered the remaing 2 semesters for free. Tell me that isn't a good deal.

EG

SPyX
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: College Station, TX
Insane since: Aug 2002

posted 08-03-2002 21:37

Yeah that's exactly the class I took. Only mine was compressed into two hours a day = 2 semesters worth of material in 1 semester. I knew my stuff, but they changed the test this year so all the preping I did that was based on the old test was for nil. So now if I want to try again I gotta pay the full $130 bucks