Preserved Topic: Deep linking illegal?

A couple of recent cases seem to suggest that deep linking into sites is illegal (which has big implications for search engines, blogs or just anyone of us wanting to point people to a useful article). The reason people are against it is that rather than go through 3 or 4 pages drilling down to the article (and getting to view their lovely ads all the way) people jump directly there depriving the site of possible income. What I don't think they've thought through is that not many people are going to give directions to an article saying go to this page click 'articles', select June to August 2001, and go to the fourth link on the page and if if they hardly anyone would be bothered (we are all lazy and want immediate gratification NOW!!). I'm sure they'd rather have one page impression rather than none at all (it would ruin their search engine rankings too or at least ruin people's ability to find stuff in your site).

The objections are based on EU rules so this will affect all European sites

Anyway here is a deep link to an article discussing this:
www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,54083,00.html

here is another one to an earlier article (the mention of the fact that there is no such thing as a deep link is interesting and I didn't know that some sites prohibit):
www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,53697,00.html

Do people think it would be a good idea to include a section in one's copyright statement that explicitly allows deeplinking?

~wanders off muttering about moneygrabbing arseholes trying to ruin everyone's fun~

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Emps

FAQs: Emperor

What total absolute crap! This is like the OED saying yes you can buy and use our dictionary but you have to read, or at least skim through all entries leading up to the word you're looking for. Full points to the asshole lawyers who thought up this one. Perhaps even sadder is the board of directors... ceo...whatever who approves this sort of thing. I'm shaking my head big time!

Haha... awww god there is some fu*kwits lawers and companies must have bugger all to do a part from bicker over silly things, This article remminds me about BT owning hyberlinks, buhahah.

Hhmm.. Lets see I wonder what the internet is going to be in 5 years time.........

[Story start]

*Image a news cast, where we don't have names as some companies has penitent it, we have numbers instead. Your watching this on your 50" screen that is connected to you computer that now runs you life, which is full tracked the FBI cyber wank group as it?s connected 24/7 to there control hub*

Now over to 52159, who has more information on the story about the internet new laws and is reporting from the US gov building.

*beep this is advert from are sponsors.....Ever want direct news without the ad's? Now you can if you buy super cyber kit, with fully ad free internet!!!, call now on...... *

Thanks 18245 well yes, the internet as you knew about 5 years ago, which was free and full on information for all ages and walks of life. Well now it has turned into a money spin off of for information too the higher bidder and has now a whole new law system that is strict as ever, plus hackers are continuing to wage cyber war against it all.

As you now know you'll have to pay hard to get what you want on the cyber world. Music, videos, images, text, etc is all pay for now. As you all know a the newly formed Goven body called Cyberfuck that was formed about 1 years ago, has made the internet what it is now and is in control of the net. This Cyberfuck, which is owned by Microsoft (god nooo, what am I thinking), now passes all laws on the net among other things. After the renascent penitent grab last year that many companies had a chance to make free money off anything on the net like, hyperlinks, HTML code, java, ect and the official new lawing that passed last week, that cyberfuck owns all the rights on what them companies paid for. Also a law that no one can view content unless there agree to new terms of laws that means you have to pay for content and every eye movement (in 2007 we use are eye to navigate around sites). Now the internet now is a fully money machine to all big takers??..

[/Story end]

Anyone want to finish story this off, if you read it that is? Cus I got bored thinking about the internet going down hill..no down a mountain cus it already falling a part and is getting faster and faster. Well as I said last time about all things cyber. The net is now coming to a new age, an age of new laws and ?pay to see? content. Nothing will be free, nothing will be free speech. All human rights stop in this world. It?s new and needs sorting out. The law and goven bodies are now only get a grab on all things cyber.

We had are play now it?s pay back time.

So don?t be shocked when things go tit?s up on the net!!

....Right back to my photoshop work!!


DS

These Internet conspiracies are really... lame. Sounds like end of the world conspiracies to me.

Hey, if a site doesn't want a search engine to spider it and send surfers their way, or even if they don't want regular sites linking to specific pages, let them have their way. Let them shoot themselves in the foot, lose a major portion of their traffic and fade away. Then we won't have to deal with their insane demands and others will learn from their major mistake.

LOL@ Wes.
Well, he`s right, you know.

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The stupidity of this is that if someone doesn't wnat people deep linking into their site then a half decent sysadmin can configure apache to not allow people to view pages when the refferer is not from inside the site.



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wull if they did that then no one could sue.... sheesh... ya gotta think man!

                                                           

I invision a world 20 years from now where not a single person is doing anything out of fear of getting sued. Kind of scarry that lawyers really do run the world.

And by the way... anyone can link to any page on my website (not that many of you would really WANT to but hey... YA CAN... YA GOT MY PERMISSION!!!).

What a stupid thing to bicker over. Two things come to mind right off the bat. Assuming you don't want people spidering your site.. can't that be easily cured with an htaccess file? Seems like I read something to that effect somewhere, maybe here. Secondly, years ago in storm chaser circles some people used to link directly to Intellicasts radar maps and stuff. You know, they would display only the map in a frameset on their own site. Well, eventually Intellicast figured out people were getting by the ad heavy pages by just linking the map graphic itself, which was always named the same thing and made some sort of dynamic code that changes the link addy with each page view making it only possible to view maps from within their (Intellicast's) frameset. No more dodging the ads. Shouldn't the responsibility fall on the "database" folks since they obviously can control deep linking issues if they really want to? It's not like like anybody's hacking their system or anything.. sheesh. I say, you don't want anybody to miss an ad on your site, great, make it so, that's your job. Let the search engines do theirs and bring you viewers. Lawyers, they're just gonna f*** it up, like everything else.

/whine

There are some sites out there with totatlly crazy policies on linking, some are completely unenforcable. Don't link to us! Highlights some of the weird ones.

Buahaha god, Ornivas that's a great little site....hmmm some people need to sort out there policies.

The world is just getting sillier every day!!



DS

Ornivas: Great link

A few more articles:
www.internetnews.com/bus-news/article.php/3_1138351

nice quote:

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"I think maybe it's a lesson in planning your Web site," he said. "You need to find a technological solution and not rely on a legal one."

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Jakob Nielsen says deep linking is good (does that mean we now have to treat deep linking with the scorn it deserves?): www.useit.com/alertbox/20020303.html

There is even a Google directory: http://directory.google.com/Top/Society/Law/Legal_Information/Computer_and_Technology_Law/Internet/Linking_Law/Deep_Linking/

The really nasty thing is that its probably rarely about copyright but about big sites with plenty of money using deep linking as an angle to push smaller related web sites out of business

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Emps

FAQs: Emperor

wow..... thats pure stupidty.. it really is... that's ehum dumb... i dont know what to say *shakes head and walks off*

oh man, thanks reitveld, I feel honored!
I can't take all this emotion in one day...

and I totally agree with Wes... let them shoot themselves...