Preserved Topic: RPG - starting a new campaign

A couple of months ago ( think it was around Easter) a couple of us from the Asylum started a RPG campaign. After some minor starting problems with software and timing etc it all got started. We used an online rpg program called openRPG to play and it worked amazingly well imo. But the campaign we were running came to an abrupt end in June.

So now we (tikigod and I) are thinking of starting a new campaign and we figured that maybe someone else here would like to join our soon-to-be-adventure. We are thinking of using the D&D 3edition rules, since we used that in our first campaign and we allready have the books and know the rules.

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I'd like to participate as a writer.

I would like to play but don't have alot of time to play. So depending on the schedule I would play. I prefere to play as a elven wizard.

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Is there somewhere I can go to read these rules?

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Hey Veneficuz, I never talked to you in a long time. I might be able to do some online gaming with you folks since I am going threw job changes. I will be working second shift and going to school full time, so our time zone problems might work out. I've been playing a campaign for months and months with my friends in Illinois. I'm having fun with D&D again, so who knows how it will work out.

We can easily supply rule books to anyone that needs them for D&D 3rd Edition.

What kind of schedule would you guys be on? And what time zone are you in? I wouldn't mind playing, but I'm not sure how the schedule would work out...


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Well...I'm on Aussie time +10:15 GMT, and I would be very interested in one of those rule books.

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Ok, I'm more than interested...but I need the rules, as well. I only have the German Manuals here...yuck!

Though I 'sorta' played with the 3rd edition rules...PoR III - well, it says it's 3rd edition, anyway...

Oh, yeah, I'm in Korea, which would mean I'm +09:00 GMT... Skaarjj, how can you be 15 minutes ahead of the hour? I've never seen that before.

I'm pretty familiar with 3rd Edition rules, but I'm interested in hearing how the mechanics are going to be handled. Is there a program that is going to do that for us, or do we have to keep track of everything ourselves?

Also, I don't think you can find the 3rd Edition rules online, but you can read the d20 System rules. What this is, basically, is the core of the 3E system, released to the public to ensure compatibility in new games, etc. I've never actually seen a 3rd Edition book--I learned mostly everything I know from d20, and I've never had a problem. Hope it helps.

The the rules you need to have read (hopefully have) is the AD&D Players Handbook, V. is probably going to DM so he'll worry about the rest.

Inition, nice to hear from you again it be great to have you in the campaign(now that I have rules). Thanks for your help getting started before.

WS, Suho, Skaarjj, tj333 love to have you guys. I think the timezone problems can be worked out. V. is in Norway and I am on EST in Augusta, Georgia. Since I can only play on weekends Im pretty flexible about the time.

ramsay- Que?

If you have trouble finding the rules email me and I try to help you out.

--tiki

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Glad to see so many people are interested. If anyone need the Player's Hand book send me a mail and I'll see what I can come up with

As tiki said I live in Norway (GMT +01), but we should be able to find a time that all of us can play.

I have an old campaign that I thought I would use now. The group I made it for dissolved before we got started, so I has never been used. I doubt that the campaign is first class since it is the first campaign I make, but hopefully it will do after some minor adjustments. So far the campaign is adoptable to most settings. I'm reading about the Forgetten Realms setting now, so might use a combination of the "standard" setting and that one.


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[This message has been edited by Veneficuz (edited 08-09-2002).]

ok i*'ve never played such a game but i would be interested if i could get a copy of the rules Im In Austria that means +1 or 2 :00

Veneficuz and tiki: have you guys taken a look at the d20 rules? How different are they from the published 3e rules? From what I've seen, there should be enough there to at least get a character together and get started. I won't be around from Wednesday through Saturday of this week, but after that I should be free (relatively speaking, of course). We should think about how many people can commit, schedules, etc. You guys handle the logistics, since you've done this before.

Uh...when is it supposed to start? And what about creating characters? And yes, I do need a Players Manual (3rd edition...or is that link that Master Suho posted ok?).

Looking forward to this...

WebShaman: we haven't decided upon a starting time yet since we don't know who is playing. But as soon as we figure that out we should be ready to go.

I haven't read through the d20 - System Reference, but they should be ok since 3E D&D is built upon those rules.

For character creation just make up a character using the 30 point by system (same as in Never Winter Nights for those that have tried it) chosing from all the standard races (Human, Dwarf, Elf, Half-Elf, Half-orc, Halfling, Gnome) and classes. I thnk the point by system is covered in the d20 rules Suho linked to. But if not I'll explain it later on. The setting for the campaign will be a pretty straight forward fantasy world. I'm not going to use material from any pre-made setting, except maybe some of the religions from the Forgotten Realms.

If you have any more questions, post them here and I'll do my best to answer them

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Personally, I would prefer to create my character after we know for certain who will be playing. Also, I think we should discuss which classes we're going to take. We don't want to end up with an unbalanced party...

I usually play fighter types (either fighter or ranger), and with the return of the monk in 3e that has become my favored class. I am flexible, though, and I always like to try new things. I would even be willing to be the stopgap (ie, play the class that no one wants to take).

Well, if it's ok, I'm going to play a halfling Monk/Rogue...I love playing Halflings...Topknot to the rescue! Errrr...yeah.

Maybe we should all post here as to what we would like to play, as Master Suho suggested...then we could solve any 'difficulties'..

If you really wish to play the Monk, Master Suho, then my second option is for a Half-orc Paladin...I love Half-orcs...yeah, I think I'll go with the Half-orc paladin...kinda interesting...doncha think? Actually, I've done quite a bit of thought on this character...well, on both, really.

Who's the Mage? And the Cleric (Priest)?

Suho and WS:

Sounds like you both are definatlly in (correct me if Im wrong). As for the D20 rules, Suho, they should work as basis for your PC but you might need the Players Handbook to flesh him out.

You guys might want to download and get familiar with openrpg.

I usually play fighter-types. My fighters tend to be more swashbuckler like, not bruisers. My main preferences are rangers or fighter/rouges but im pretty flexible. I might consider playing a druid or a monk/cleric on this outing.

I would really like to use is one of the Oriental Adventures classes like a samurai or a shaman, if V will allow it.

tiki's tally-

tiki-something he'll see what the others play
WS-Monk or a Paladin
Suho-Monk, fighter, or Ranger
Veneficuz-DM

or maybe we could all be monks...

**tiki sings "Everybody was kung fu fighting...Those cats were fast as lightning**

Skaarjj, Inition, Blacknight, tj333, how about you all?

-tiki

ps. Need help with rules? - Email

I'm in...just wait till I get home so I can read the rules

Master Suho: That is my exact time area. The actual zone is +10:00 GMT, but due ot my area within it my time is actually 15 mins ahead of those who live right in the interchange. I worked it out ages ago to give myself an acurate refernce as to when (my time) people post things on the Asylum.

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I'd like to play. Was an everquest junkie for about a year. (Until I decided that it was just cutting into my budget too much. I have to save up for PlanetSide ) I played a monk but I'm flexible.

Edit: NM, saw the link upon further inspection.



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Skaarjj: How interesting. So, does that mean when it's twelve noon here, it's 1:15 where you are. That baffles me. Perhaps I'm misunderstanding.

Like I said, I don't have to play the monk, but that would be my first choice. Also, just curious, but when you guys say things like monk/rogue and monk/cleric, are you talking about multiclass? Because I can't imagine why anyone would multiclass a monk. In my mind, monk is the best pure class out there. Or maybe you just mean "monk or rogue."

I'm going to be gone for the rest of the week, so just keep truckin' along without me--I'm still in. As for getting my hands on the 3e books, that might be a bit difficult. I'll see what I can do, though.

Couldn't it be a group from a monestary? . . . I like winking

Edit: To add some content to this post - if you guys will have me I live in the central standard time zone = -6.00. However my normal online time hours are late at night so I shouldn't be too much of a hold back. I'll play any class that doesn't require me to be good and law abiding as I don't think I could pull off a character like that just yet.



[This message has been edited by SPyX (edited 08-13-2002).]

Well Master Suho, the Monk/Rogue multi-class combo is one of the strongest in the 3rd edition...(note: 3rd edition is very different from previous rules for multi-classing...read up on it). The reason - the Monk and the Rogue 'share' many of the same areas...and stats...thus making it ideal for multi-ing...can you say a Monk's open hand with backstabbing? Bye-bye, monster....

Plus, who can sneak around as efficently as a Monk/Rogue? Also, the Monk has a different hp die in the 3rd edition...which combines with the Rogue very nicely...a Rogue with not only good hps, but very good ac...just don't cut that wisdom short (adds to ac for a Monk...)

Well, I have decided...I'm a Half-Orc Paladin...maybe I'll multi to Priest a bit latter...also one of the most powerful of class combinations...

Wait until you read his background...interesting, it is.

We need a Mage character...

Nice to see that tikigod has an interesting idea for a character...*hopes that Oriental characters will be allowed*

So who is the Mage?

I have no problem with classes from the oriental adventures or any other book as long I can find somewhere to read about the class etc before hand.

About the multiclassing; you are free to multiclass whatever you want as long as you can come up with a 'role playing' reason to do so.

I've uploaded some background info at http://www.p-design.net/dnd/ . It is not finnished by far yet, but at least it is a beginning.

SPyX: since you live in GMT-6:00 it is most likely that you will have to play in the mornings. As it stands now the most suiting time that I can see would be 9am for those(tiki and SPyX) at GMT-6, 4pm for us(WS and me) at GMT+1 and around midnight for those(Suho and Skaarjj) at GMT+10. But since nothing is decided yet still timeschedule are open for change. Does anyone have any other idea how we might solve it?

If any of you have problem getting hold of the Player Hand Book give me a mail and I might be able to help you out...

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[This message has been edited by Veneficuz (edited 08-13-2002).]

Added a link to some background info in my last post...

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That time would be fine as long as we do it on saturdays.

: / Um that link brings up a blank page for me. Not to worry though. A quick look at the source and I read it all

Tiki is in EST which means he is an hour ahead of me actually.

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Suho- I was joking about all the monk characters. I just thought it would be funny if we were all monks fighting our way through the dungeons.(I was thinking of playing a monk also)

Like WS said multiclassing a monk can lead to some very powerful combinations. By using a monk/cleric I have monk who can heal himself and others, also I can roleplay him as a more "mystical" monk.

WS- Thanks, I like playing characters that are not so "eurocentric." I love the Oriental Adventures book and also al-Qaadim which adds classes from Arabia.

Like Suho Im also willing to be a "stopgap" to help fill out the party. When I play spellcasters I tend to be non-traditional or multi-class them later.(1d4 HD just sucks)

tiki's tally 2-

Veneficuz-DM
tiki- possible "stopgap" or something from OA(samurai, sohei (warrior monk), or shaman)
Suho- possible "stopgap" or monk?
WS- Half-Orc Paladin
Skaarjj- not decided
SPyX- not decided

I think we're close to being ready we might want determine when we want to start playing.

A suggestion, depending on what V. thinks, is that we use the first session to get our open RPGs set up and not worry as much about getting started adventuring. An alternative is that Veneficuz and I can help people configure through ICQ or openRPG so we're all ready to start during the first session.

What do you all think?

I'd probably be that mage you were looking for, maybe a priest/mage (if at all possible) although that just sounds like a paladin to me.

I guess I should say this - Is it gonna be a problem that this will be my. . . um. . . first time. Ya ya I'm a pencil&paper virgin.

Dangit I'm reading LoTR for the second time and I just watched "The Fellowship of the Ring." I want to play NOW!
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Well SPyX. since it is your first time, I recommend a straight fighter type for you (Like Aragorn). That is the easiest to manage, esp. for the first time.

Veneficuz - nice BG...can't wait to get started...

I just got the LotR on DVD...yippeee! Can't wait for the second film, The Two Towers...

Hey...im really intrested in all of this.. while confused as well.. can some one point me in the direction .. of where i start?

Trigger: There is a link to the d20 system rules in Master Suho's second post. It's all in there.

Its been a long, long time since I did this, so go easy on me. Also, midnight wouldn't be a good time for me nless it's on a weekend, cause I have a 6 AM start for work the next morning on a weekday.

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Ahhh ok.......... Thanks

After we're done with this campaign, I'd like ot see us use those star wars rules that are on the same page as the d20 rules and have a star wars rpg...maybe.

[edit]sorry...got mixed up there for a while. The rules aren't actually on there, but I would still like to try it, although we would then have to find a way to get the rules to every player.[/edit]

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[This message has been edited by Skaarjj (edited 08-14-2002).]

I was actually thinking about a Half-Elf Ranger. . . would that be condusive?

I will be without internet connection for the next nine days. My parents didn't want to pay for cable any more now that I am moving. So, once I get up to A&M I will try to get my DSL going ASAP. Until then!

I'm still trying to find the mage class in those d20 rules...any ideas?

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Well Skaarj, just drop the DM an E-mail *hint, hint*

Hmmm...a half-elf Ranger...someone thinking of being...say...Legolas? Well, it's not bad...but if this is your first time, I would really recomend a straight Fighter...however, the choice is yours...

Ok, I've downloaded everything I need...just one thing - what about die rolling? *sheepish grin* I don't have the dice that are needed...is there a program that can simulate that?

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[This message has been edited by Skaarjj (edited 08-15-2002).]

Download openrpg from the link above. It has a die roller in it.

Oh, I didn't know it had a die roller built in...thanks for that tidbit. Already downloaded it *stupid brain* *sigh* Maybe someday I'll actually look through something before asking...

Thanks.

np

I feel that way sometines too.

Skaarjj: We are going to play on weekends, since that is the only time both you and tiki are available and because it is the only day(s) that I can play that early in the afternoon...

SPyX: A half-elf ranger shouldn't be a problem to play even if you are new. They are almost like a straight fighter for the first 8 levels, then get spells and they get a little more "trouble" playing, but by that time you'll probably have gotten the hang of it. The reason mages etc. are harder to play is that they have less hp and you have to decide spells etc for them to use and it takes some practice to chose the right spells. Another easy to start character is a barbarian - almost like a clean fighter, but still different But the most important thing is that you make a char that you like and want to play, if there is any problem I can always help...

I got the LOTR DVD on the day it was released, spent a couple of hours infront of the DVD player since then. Can barely wait for the Deluxe version of the DVD is released. And on the DVD they say that the Two Towers is going to be better that The Fellowship of the Ring... didn't think that was possible


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Just a quick question Ven, before I get back to studying these rules, are we supposed to be those seven wizards? Cause if we are I don't quite see how it works, and if we aren't, where do we come into the story?

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You are not one of the 'Seven Wizads'. If you were you would all have to be wizards and that woulnd't have been any fun, now would it The campagin will take place about 200 years after the Wizards' time of adventure and wandering...

[edit]If you are familiar with the Forgotten Realms setting you can almost think of the Wizards as this world's Elminster and Drizzt.[/edit]

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[This message has been edited by Veneficuz (edited 08-15-2002).]

Actually, we could all play wizards...with multi-class options in the 3rd edition rules, it would be pretty interesting...

Main class - wizard - multi-class (any option...hehe).

BTW - the Monk/Wizard multi is very good...nice ac, good hp, and a great mage...that can 'survive' a close combat...I used one in POR II...very effective, esp. at high levels...

I think I may take that then...or maybe not. Then just about all of us would be monks...

you want to be a mage? or wizard?

I've got tons of DnD books and d20 products .. let me know if I can help

actually I went ahead and put some small things together

I know you all have the PHB so Skaaji look on page 48 or 52 those are the Sorcerer and Wizard classes .. I would mention Prestige Classes but I'm not sure if tiki or vene are using upper level characters .. I would assume your starting from lvl 1 .. just because it's better to start out at that level with beginner players

if you want more details about Wizards and Sorcerers Prestige Classes let me know .. I have the books

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Ummm...we don't all have the PHB. I just have those online d20 rules that suhp linked to earlier. Personally I have no idea where I can get them in my area.

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I guess I shouldn't have assumed you all had the PHB .. to pick it up go to any Wizards of the Coast or The Game Keeper store, if neither of those two stores exsist look in your local yellowpages for 'Games & Supplies' .. there is usually atleast one store in your town .. if not .. then unless you want to buy it offline .. I don't know what to tell you


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[This message has been edited by RammStein (edited 08-15-2002).]

We/they are all starting at level 1, so prestige classes won't be available until later on when they get some more levels. So the only mage classes available that i know of is the wizard or the sorcerer.

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cooo .. I would have assumed you would start at lvl 1 .. yeah a Wizard or Sorcerer would be best suitable .. though a Sorcerer would be more of the "evil" inclined .. as the Wizard is more for the practice and systematic about it's class

I don't think the sorcerer has to be evil inclined. I always think a sorcerer as a more chaotic character compared to the wizard. The sorcers does what he feels like at the moment, but the wizards thinks it through first and takes his time so he doesn't make the wrong decision. But that is just my "feel" for the classes...

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yeah .. what I meant to say was a Sorcerer is more chaotic .. they don't carry a book around with them to call spells upon .. Wizards have a book and only know a few spells by heart .. they tend to be more forthright

I wonder what Skaarji will pick


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Legolas wasn't a half elf or a ranger. . . but he sure is cool

Legolas was a ranger. An elf-ranger that is, being different from a human-ranger like Aragorn.

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Why do you think so? He is never said to be one - at least nowhere that I can find. And he is also described as being a messenger of his father, the King of Northern Mirkwood, which sudgests that he was an active part in that community. Rangers are supposed to be somewhat wild folk yes? What am I missing?

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[This message has been edited by SPyX (edited 08-16-2002).]

In the terms of elves, rangers are something different. They are part of the warrior class of the elvish community. They are master archers and fight to protect the forests of their home.

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*sigh* This is why I suggested the straight fighter...for anyone first playing DnD, all the class/race things can be overwhelming...not to mention the roleplaying aspect. All the different races have 'traits' that seperate them from Humans...and that in itself can be a challenge to roleplay. Combine that with a class that is a bit complicated (like Ranger, but not as complicated as a few! others...), and one can soon be overwhelmed...

I suggest no one play a Monk or a Druid .. because they are very hard to start out for a beginner .. even though later levels are very rewarding .. no beginner player has ever survived the early lvls from my experience

WS .. a fighter is a great start but they tend to become boring eventually

IMO the best classes to start out as are:

Ranger
Barbarian
Fighter
Wizard
Cleric
Paladin
Rogue


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A fighter is boring? Well, not with the 3rd edition rules, they are not! With multi-class options (and many of the 'fighting' feats), they 're-polished' the good ol' fighter, putting the oumpfff! back into this class.

For beginning players, this is a great way to start learning DnD - because the Fighter is in the front ranks (well, I hope he is ). After that gets boring (if you will...personally, good role-playing never gets boring...), then multi to another class!

Very nice. Very simple. Very effective. And, to be honest, when one starts out, Hack -n- slash plays a big role...it's only later that a beginner starts developing 'real' role-playing skills...and starts to really get a 'feel' for the Mechanics of the game...allowing him to start with, say, a mage (and survive!). Of course, we all know the 'Hey, that class has cool abilities, I wanna be able to do that!' kind of thing...but many of these kind of classes 'need' special approaches (and rely on that Fighter in the front ranks!). Such is the nature of beginning...

Of course, Barbarian is always good for starters ('Hulk hate. Hulk smash!'). Or, one can use the Conan variant - the 'smart' barbarian (as long as you don't play him like Arnold Schwarzenegger...play him like in the books from Robert E. Howard). The best Barbarian of all time? Easy. Gath of Bhaal, from the Horned Helmet series. One can always multi him later to a Rogue...very nice.

Ok, on another note...I've installed OpenRPG, (along with the other Python stuff...). How do we connect together? On with server? I got the dice roller working, but what about character sheets, character models, etc? Guess I'll have to do more reading...*sigh*

I think tiki has a good charcter sheet for openRPG. I lost my copy of it when I reinstalled Linux.

When we decide to play one of us (probably me) sets up a server and then the rest of you connect to that server.

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Wow. I go away for a few days and everything takes off. I like.

The only reason I'm usually against multi-classing a monk is that the class has so many higher level benefits. Of course, multi-classing does have advantages, which have been pointed out. I guess I should say that I usually don't like to multi-class--I'm something of a purist, I suppose.

As for the time, like Skaarjj, midnight would be a bad start time for me. I imagine our sessions would last for at least a few hours, and there's no way I could afford to go to bed at two or three in the morning. I have a feeling time is going to be the most difficult thing to work out, and the composition of the group may be determined by who can play at the most favorable time.

Unless...Suho, you don't work on weekends, do you?

Cuase if you don't then Friday and saturday nights would be perfect for it, cause of no work the next day.

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Well, I don't work on weekends, but I do go to church on Sunday morning... so that would leave Saturday night out. More importantly, though, I currently live in a very small (one room, kitchen, bath) place, and I don't think my wife would appreciate me staying up that late when she's trying to sleep.... So, schedules aside, midnight (or, realistically, even ten or eleven o'clock) start times are not feasible for me. If everyone else is cool with that time, though, I guess I would have to drop out. That would suck, I suppose, but those are the breaks.

Sine the last time I posted in this thread I have become my off line groups DM. Becomeing DM takes up enough of my time that I won't be able to play here even though it looks like it would be fun.

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Odd behavior; even temperament...

Ok it looks like we've got the party pretty much together:

Skaarjj-Sorcerer
Webshaman-Paladin
Spyx-Ranger
tiki-not yet decided
Suho-not yet decided

Veneficuz-DM

**tiki looks around the asylum rec room. Shouts:**

Hey Trigger you still wanna play?

Ok, times:

Weekends are a must it looks like. Suho can't play late we need to tweak the schedule. I dont mind play ing in the wee-hours of the morning. I cant start this weekend or next (Ive got this wedding thing going on ).

V: do you have another schedule suggestion?

Finally, character sheets. I'm going to see if there is a way to post them. If you guys think its worth while I'll write a mini tutorial to show how to fill them out. Give me some time cause little busy (see above). Just tell me what you need.

Skaarjj: does this help? I didnt hear back from you.

Yes, that with the character sheets is a good idea...and a 'mini-tut', on how to impliment them into the program would be nice...it is kinda complicated...

Hmm... OK, I'm still a little concerned about my screwing up the schedule for everybody, but I appreciate you still counting me in. Looking over the list so far, it appears that we are still short both a healer and rogue. I would be willing to play either, unless someone really wants to play them, in which case I would probably go with a monk. For now, until things get a little more concrete, put me down as "Cleric or Rogue." When tiki and Trigger (if he's playing) decide, then I'll let you know for certain.

(In fact, I think I might like to get out of the monk mold--I just finished Neverwinter Nights with a pure monk, and I'd like to try something other than smacking people around with my bare hands.)

We need a good mix of people, fighters, rogues (I'd love to have a barbarian in the party), mages. A selection of spells, close and ranged fighters. A couple of the mage classes would be good, since we tend to be physically weaker characters and a bit easier to kill with weapons if you manage to evade our spells. Since we don't yet know exactly wat we're going ot have to do, the best kind of party we could create is one that can deal with just about anything which comes its way, meaning also a good mix of races.

Yes...thanks tiki and ven...that handbook helped, and I think that tutorial on writing and implementing sheets would be good. I still haven't figured it out.

Exactly, and looking at the confirmed slots now, we have two fighters and one magic user. Another magic user would be nice, but if there's only going to be two more of us (tiki and myself), I would say that one of us would pretty much have to play a rogue and the other would have to play a cleric. I know the paladin has healing skills, but they really can't compete with the cleric, and we're going to need the paladin as our up-front fighter (along with the ranger, who would go either ranged or melee, depending on the situation). If Trigger joins us, I'd say throw another magic user in the mix (or maybe a barbarian, if Skaarjj is feeling a little vulnerable).

I think we need to figure exactly who is going to play and when (very important) so we can think about party balance. You're right, we don't know what we're going to have to do, but chances are we're going to need the two classes I mentioned.

I've been a little bussy lately so I'm not able to get everything ready for this weekend, but next weekend should work fine with me.

At the moment we are spread (timewise) from -6 to +10, so the only way to get Suho and Skaarjj's play time to be before midnight would be to get Tiki and SPyX up early in the morning. If they get up and start playing at 7am the time will be 2pm here in Europe and around 11pm for those in the Far East. That might still be a little bit late for Suho if he intends to get up early the next day, but I'm not sure how much earlier Tiki and Spyx are willing to get up...

It is not a must to have a rouge in the group, but it will surely help with the traps etc. And if you get a rouge with a high dex they are also great archers since they get to use the 'sneak attack' while using the bow/crossbow. But the most important thing is that everyone play something they like, I'll change parts of the campaign to suit the party better as soon as I see what chars will be used.


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I always feel vulnerable when I play a magic user. They are so low in their HP unless you get some very good rolls, which I haven't for this. My rolls range from 14-18 ATM...with mainly 14's and 15's and one 18 that's going towards my intelligence.

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an avarage of 14-15 is very good! what method for rolling the stats are you using?

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really? then why does it tell me in the 3E players handbook that if I get bellow 13 can re-roll...that owuld take 13 to be a bad score...I think

I'm just using Open RPG. I just hit the d6 rolling button four times, do the maths, repeat.

I now have to figure out a method of getting the PHB home...that's a large file, and I only have a dial-up.

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Yeah, the time is kind of worrying me. Skaarjj said he would be OK with playing late, so I may end up being the only one holding everyone back. If that is the case, I would have to back out. As I said before, that would suck, but it may be necessary.

Honestly, I don't think it's really going to be feasible for me. Even starting at 11 would be rough...

If we can get tiki and Spyx to get up early we can start before 11, but that is up to them how early they get up... It would really suck if you weren't able to play

Skaarjj: the PHB (page 8) says that you should reroll if your highest score is 13 or lower, or if the sum of all the modifiers are less than 0.

I think that the best way to calculate the stats are to either:
- roll 4d6 and use the 3 highest scores, do that 6 times and then 'connect' the scores with the stat of your choose.
- Or to ensure that all characters are equally good we could use a Non Standard Point Buy system (DMG page 20) starting with 28 points. The way that system works is that each ability starts at 8, and then you distribute your points as you see fit. For scores up to 14 it is 1 point for 1 "ability score", from 14 to 15 and 15 to 16 it is 2 points for 1 "ability score", and from 16 to 17 and 17 to 18 it is 3 points for 1 "ability score".


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I like the 'non-standard' system best...it allows one to 'tailor' the character better...just my opinion...can I use it?

WS: sure, go ahead and use whichever system you like



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Yipee! Ulik the Half-orc lives! I'll post the stats tonight...I love the non-standard method...nothing better for roleplaying than a tailor-made character...albeit the scores are not the greatest...but then, roleplaying is not exactly dependent on scores...but it is nice to have scores that allow one to play a desired class...

Another question...what about the miniatures, and other graphics? Are you using your own? And can we use our own? I have POR II, it has 'great' character graphics...all 3D. Just trying to figure out how to take a screen shot....then I can 're-work' the graphic....need something to look at...or does someone have a better idea?

Use whatever graphics you want.

I'll be using miniatures from the openRPG site myself. The only thing you have to think about is the size of the miniature so that you don't end up with a char the size of a dragon

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Um, doesn't the 4d6 method also allow you to tailor your character to the class you want? You roll up your scores and then put them in the stats you want. I guess with the point buy system you can be sure that characters will be fairly even, but I think they both work. Oh, and why 28 points and not 30? Just curious...

So, my fate hangs on tiki and Spyx... I hate being a thorn in everyone's side like this.

Well, you could 'force' their hand...by going with what you want to play, instead of waiting...

And yes, die-rolling can also produce good stats...but I don't like the randomness of it. I like tailoring my strengths and weakness...to match with the character I have in my head...I normally start out that way - first think up the character, create his background, his personality, ways of thinking, likes, dislikes, etc. Then I tailor the stats to help represent this.

The reason I chose 28 points instead of 30 like in NWN is that the Dungeon Master Guide advices to use that number of points for a challenging campaign something I hope to provide



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Veneficuz: Oh, OK. I haven't read the DMG, so I didn't see that bit.

WS: I suppose you're right. With the roll system you could end up with some crazy stats...

Oh yes, something else. In 3rd edition, you get points at pre-determined levels (don't remember which ones...), so don't worry all that much with high scores (and it's not as important as it used to be). Also, some of the characteristics have been changed as to what their effects are (charisma, for example).

Actually, having some low scores can play to your advantage...they make the character more 'unique', and (IMHO) more enjoyable. Gives a little added 'kick' to the roleplaying part...

One ability point at every four levels. But you're right about the stats, having a good mix makes for an interesting character with his or her own quirks.

Hmm didn't see this till now. I haven't picked up the 3rd Edition rules yet but playing NWN shows me that they do have promise. My only gripe is I have dozens of seconed edition resources that are now all out of date. "Sniff"

Perhaps I'll be able to join one of your later games. Having beed a DM for almost 20 years now I rarely get the chance to play and the new skills categories and point system works very well. My 6th level rogue while a lousy stand up fighter can walk into a room and clean it out right under the guards noses. I usually walk into a room then let my henchman in as soon as they all crowd the door I sneak attack the strongest from behind. Lots of fun.

We'd be glad to have you nightshade...what time zone are you in?

We haven't started playing yet so you are welcome to join Nightshade. If you want to have a look at the 3E PHB drop me a mail...

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I cant play next weekend, Im getting married. Can we start after that?

Suho, dont worry about holding it up. I can play at any time friday and Saturday as long it doesnt interfear with going to work.

Nightshade, it would be great to have you.

-tiki, cell 478

and it's very easy to convert 2E into 3E


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I don't have any problem starting next weekend (7th/8th of Septemeber?). As I said the only time that didn't work for me was this weekend since I haven't had the time to get all of the stuff together yet.

SPyX; how early can you get up in the morning to play?



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tikigod: allow me to be the first (at least the first in this thread) to congratulate you on your upcoming wedding. You mentioned wedding stuff before, but I had kind of assumed you were talking about someone else...

As for the schedule, I'm not holding my breath. I'm not sure how the time zones work out, but realistically I would have to be done by midnight at the latest, and that would probably mean a few of you getting up real early in the morning. If it works out, it works out, but if it doesn't I think you'll have enough people to play without me. So I'll just hang tight and see how things go.

Ok sorry guys I'm still not exactly "back" but the time issue. . . hmmm I dunno that I could possibly do much earlier than 7 unless you wanna move it back to like 2am or something so that I'm not waking up. I'm just staying up. I find that to be much easier. If y'all think I should switch to a pure melee that's fine with me. I will leave it your hands since this is my first time. Okey, I will be gone for the next few days for "fish camp." Adios!

-Adam

BTW: Don't know how to stack the stats yet but my char's name will be Siylebis.

So a possible time table is then 7am for tiki and SPyX, 1pm for ws and me and 11pm for Suho. But since Suho can't stay up and play all night that one doesn't work very well...

But if Tiki and SPyX could stay up late it might work for all of us... 2am for them is 8am for ws and me and 8pm for Suho and Skaarjj. The only problem with this one is that Tiki and SPyX has to get stay up pretty late since we will probably play a couple of hours each session so they won't get much sleep that night. Getting up early isn't a problem for me (at least not one that coffe can't solve ) and I hope it isn't a big problem for WS either...

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Nope. Coffee and cigs cures lack of sleep, believe me...hehe...

Here is something interesting that I have found... http://www.rpgplanet.com/poolofradiance/

Now, you are probably wondering...WTF? Well, see on the right the link called Character Generator? Kinda an interesting tool, actually. It uses the point system in POR to generate a character (although one only has 25 points to use, and not 28). Also, though not all races/classes are present, it is still kinda nifty...

There are also graphics from the game to be found...esp. character graphics. Just thought I'd share that with you.

So you mean I might actually be able to play?

Yes, 20:00 is good. That was about the only thing I understood out of that last post, Veneficuz. Apologies to everyone, but I'm pretty well smashed (drunk, pissed--insert favorite term) at this point. That's another story entirely, though, and has to do with my graduation ceremony and the aftermath. But yes, I would be very happy if the schedule worked out so that I could play at 20:00.

I hope you all appreciate how difficult it was for me to type this. Again, apologies all around.

Woo! Go Master Suho! Another graduated asylumite.



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Those who Try
Do
Those who Love
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Thanks, Skaarjj. Yep, it's finally "official" (ie, I now have the little piece of paper--granted, it's a very nice looking piece of paper).

Back to the subject at hand, though. Should I get my hopes up or not? I've been trying not to get my hopes up, but it would be so cool if I could actually play...

Master Suho, indeed! Congrats and kudos!

I, too, hope you can play...

I think we all hope you can play Suho, and congratulations with the graduation

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congrats Suho, and thanks. Sorry I cant talk much today.

[This message has been edited by tikigod (edited 08-29-2002).]

I'm really sorry, but can you give me a brake down on the time and day we will be playing in US central time? I'll play the thief too I don't have time to read the whole thread, but I think I have time to play with my new job.

So far nothing has been decided (I think), but the plan is that we will play around 2am EST. I'm not sure how much that differs from you.. The problem is that you can be mighty tired the following morning

I'll post a short update on the background later on tonight with some more info on the recent events(civil war and orcish invasion etc ) along with another character description.
[edit]The new info is now online at the same place as before. [/edit]

Have everyone decided which class they will be playing?

[2nd edit]fixed the link[/2nd edit]
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[This message has been edited by Veneficuz (edited 09-03-2002).]

[This message has been edited by Veneficuz (edited 09-03-2002).]

Ok guys we FINALLY got the darn dsl up. Is it too late for me to get in?

2 AM EST? That would be 3 PM for me, which is doable, depending on the day. What day of the week were we doing this? And how long do you think sessions will go?

I'll have to get back to you on my character and such...

[Edit: OK, this is just getting freaky. A moment ago my reply wasn't there. Now it is. I give up.]

[This message has been edited by Suho1004 (edited 09-06-2002).]

It was probably one of the ghost from the basement come up to haunt the thread

Because of the time difference and everything we will be playing in the weekends, either Saturday or Sunday European time. I'm not sure how long each session will last, but I would think that we at least should try to play a couple of hours(2+) wheneever possible. Much shorter than that and the game will take a very long time...

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OK, I'm not sure how European time and Asian time square up, but 3pm Saturday is good for me. Sunday is not so good (there I go, being a pain in the butt again).

European time is either GMT or GMT+1, for me and ws it it GMT +1.

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well count me in... Just give me the times. What platform are we playing on (webrpg, openrpg???) Do you want us to start fresh charactors or bring in our own???

Oops, I found the answers to my questions. Cool. can I play guys????



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Ok, this is getting ridiculous...

Move it along folks.. nothing to see here...

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