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Okay made a few more, and i think im getting better. But I still need opinions and remarks so I can truely get better.<P>1) My current pride and joy and my signature for message baords.
<IMG SRC="http://members.dencity.com/ForceCommander/xsig.jpg"> <P>2) One I did for my freind who this he is all the sudden the Glaidator.
<IMG SRC="http://members.dencity.com/ForceCommander/trans.jpg"> <P>All comments are appricated even if they tell me my work is trash. But from what I posted before I feel at least Im getting better can we agree on that?<P>Thanks<P> <IMG SRC="http://members.dencity.com/ForceCommander/xsig.jpg">

My biggest advice: make 'em smaller.
Also, narrow your focus; emphasize one aspect or area. Play more on subtle effects, with some defining contrast (negative space is OK!).<P>This has been another episode of "My 2 Cents" with your host, DL-44

Smaller....... wait wait let me guess your in 800 x 600 pixle screen area arnt you? Sorry all my work is intended to be viewed through a 1024 x 768 pixel screen area. And if you are in 1024 x 768 and u still say smaller... why?!?!<P> <IMG SRC="http://members.dencity.com/ForceCommander/xsig.jpg">

We say smaller for various reasons.
For the sig file, smaller is better, as it does not distract from other peoples postings, and it does not take as long to download. Think about it, if a thread gets to be long, and we are all waiting for huge sigs to download, this board will become deserted. We've been spoiled by instant gratification. <P>The reason we say smaller for web sites is very simple. When you design, you want to design for the lowest common denominator. If you only design for 1024x768 you are alienating close to 90% of the web audience. (It's actually harder to design for 1024x768 than it is to design for 800x600 IMHO.) You are better off serving the majority of the web audience unless you know, without a doubt, that your users will be using a set size. To do otherwise, only hurts yourself and your site. <P>I myself run a desktop of 1024x768, but I run my browsers at 800wide. Most days if I come to a site that says "best viewed at 1024x768" I leave. I feel that it is lazy design, you can design a site for 800, that stretches to 1024, and still looks good. If you look around you will see what I mean.<P>Cuius testiculos habes, habeas cardia et cerebellum.
- When you have thier full attention in your grip, their hearts and minds will follow.

Im with F1 on that logic...myself i run 800x.........only because that is the standerd now and i like the feel of that size........ok so im loosing my young eyes..over 40 ya know...hehehehe.............i compensate for pallet space with extra video cards and monitiors....all my computers run dual monitors..............and yes negative space is good and one focal point to draw your eyes is rule the rest is great back-grnd..........just a thought...DocCyber

Yes, I also run 1024x768, but never ever have my browser maximized -- it's just not appealing to do so.
And, yes, pretty much what F1 said -- it's just bad design to aim for such a large screen setting, and for a signature it's almost absurdly large: it's as big as an ad banner!<P>This has been another episode of "My 2 Cents" with your host, DL-44

About web sites I always design for the 800 x 600 pixel areas, I always make them 800 Pixels wide, which fits perfect in a maximized 800 X 600 browser. As for my current sig... I have always been around guys that use the basic signature size of 500 x 90 pixel size. And this pic doesnt take long to load at all, I have the crap connection of 26000. And it loads instantly. Okay I like the size comments but could I get a few comments on the art itself? I kinda thought that the background hole thingy draws your eyes over my name. As for negative space, does this peace really need it? Please reply thanks.<P> <IMG SRC="http://members.dencity.com/ForceCommander/xsig.jpg">

OK, let's all cool off here, eh? TFX17, most of the advices here actually are pretty good. I design site that will work at 800x600, but even so, I don't design them 800 pixels wide! Try not to forget the scrollbars and borders around the browser. I actually design the majority of my sites at 640 pixels wide nowadays, it makes me more compfortable, and most of the folks I know who use the web on a daily basis also use their computers for other things too, so a window smaller than 800x600 is by far the most common. Take it for what it's worth, but it's good advice, and well meant.<P>I actually like the look of the banner graphic, the feel of it is kinda cool. For use on this forum, the blue color on a somewhat big banner can be kinda jarring, especially when you end up having to pipe up so often defending it! My graphic.sig is 372x31, I designed it to match with the look here, and I'm thinking of making it even smaller and more muted, it can get kinda heavy when I have to post a lot. Speed for you won't be an issue, you probably have that sig image in your cache about a dozen places, not an issue here. <P>Howzabout we make a deal? I'm going to set myself a limit of 400 pixels wide, and only 28 pixels tall, matched against this background. That'll be my new sig file, and let's see if you can do the same. I warn you, mine is going to use the background color, I'm shooting for low-key here, and I bet it'll earn more positive responses.<P>Here's another beef! Why hasn't anyone but me, Slime, and now TF X17 used the graphical sig function? Don't you guys ever do any graphics? <g> I'll expect some action from you guys!<P><IMG SRC="http://www.ozones.com/forum/siggie.gif" border=0>

Hmm, I think I like the gladiator graphic better. More subtle in it's use of colors, and I always prefer natural tones more anyway. Hate to say it, but for anything but main page header, it probably *is* too big. Nice work, though.<P>Your pal, -doc-<P>[400x28 sig file, coming soon! (blend blend... :-)]

When i access from univerity i'm forced, for security reasons to view the pages at 800x600, at home 1024 768, 2 sites that come to mind for good mutli res support are phong.com and misery (links on phongs frontpage)
I think this is a achieved by tables.
To be honest i thought someone was selling a TF X17 when the page loaded.....cool designs tho' <IMG SRC="http://www.ozones.com/forum/smile.gif">

OK! Here's my new sig file, all over the place in the forum, simply overloaded it over the existing image. For reference, here's the orignal somewhat 'loud' version...<P> <IMG SRC="http://www.ozones.com/forum/siggie.bak.gif"> <P><IMG SRC="http://www.ozones.com/forum/siggie.gif" border=0><p>[This message has been edited by DocOzone (edited 25-05-2000).]

Well I dont expect to get much "i likes" compared to your work, for I have only been interested in Photoshop for 3 or 4 days. Anyway I changed my sig and now can we stop talking about the size of my signature and focus on the peace of art!? Thank you.<P> <IMG SRC="http://members.dencity.com/ForceCommander/lilsiggy.jpg">

Oh man that looks like crap! But it will have to do till I can think up something good for such a small canvas size.<P> <IMG SRC="http://members.dencity.com/ForceCommander/lilsiggy.jpg">

Hey, I'll participate in the sig image exhibit. (It's not like I have any WORK to do...)<P>
Wes<P><IMG SRC="http://www.bigwaste.com/sig_coupon.gif" border=0>
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<p>[This message has been edited by 2winspapa (edited 26-05-2000).]

Ack! How do I get rid of the image border in UBB?

Here's my lame attempt at a sig. I'm just not feeling motivated today...<P> <IMG SRC="http://www.groovyart.8m.com/images/sig.gif">

Ill have to work on a sig file for this forum............heres an older one i use elsewhere.. <IMG SRC="http://www.doccyber.com/sig.gif"> <P>[This message has been edited by DocCyber (edited 25-05-2000).]<p>[This message has been edited by DocCyber (edited 25-05-2000).]

Oops how about now!<P> <IMG SRC="http://www.raceamerica.net/images/sig.gif">

Damn that's spooky .......... <IMG SRC="http://www.ozones.com/forum/smile.gif">

Hey, Doc - how did you link your sig image and prevent the border?<P>Wes

I was aiming for something personal that also fit the mood of the forum.... hehehehehehahahahahah<P> <IMG SRC="http://www.raceamerica.net/images/sig.gif">

Here's a pic o' meself that was KISS inspired. It's kinda evil looking and it scream's "Redneck Texan" although I'm not one. I just friggin' live here in this hell hole! LOL<P> <IMG SRC="http://www.raceamerica.net/images/texas_spook.jpg"> <P> <IMG SRC="http://www.raceamerica.net/images/sig.gif">

As this is my first forum, I've yet to make one.....can we use flash ??

There ya go! I fixed it for you Wes. Check out the source code for the fix...<P>I'll post my "sig" soon.<P>My personal preference is to avoid hurtling my body into anything rawhide

Well I'm not going to take sides, but my own personal preference is for subtlety.<P>I like the subdued signatures like Boudga and Doc came up with, as an example.<P>My signature represents several things: one, is that I like design that pushes the envelope, two I like stuff that radiates and pierces the void, and finally, as some of the "old timers" here know, I am a father of infant twin girls so perhaps it could represent the fact that I still have what it takes.... <g><P>alas, but I digress...presenting, with no particular fanfare...my "signature"<P><IMG SRC="http://www.hypersolutions.com/2winspapasig.jpg" border=0>
<p>[This message has been edited by 2winspapa (edited 26-05-2000).]

ACK!!<P>Hey Doc...it appears that my profile won't store my UBB signature code properly. Any ideas as how I could rectify that?<P>I'll paste it in for now.....<P><IMG SRC="http://www.hypersolutions.com/2winspapasig.jpg" border=0>

Whoa...<P>There's also a difference when including the signature proper, or when pasting it in!<P>The proper looks much better no? But then, I've got to edit it...bummer<P><IMG SRC="http://www.hypersolutions.com/2winspapasig.jpg" border=0>
<p>[This message has been edited by 2winspapa (edited 26-05-2000).]

I want a picture... =[
What should I make!?
*Sigh*<P> - Dan -

Well I changed my sig, that alst one was so scary and ugly that I made my self read tutorials all day for like 8 hours straight for producing such a peace of crap. So im going with this simple one till I cna think of something to make.<P> <IMG SRC="http://members.dencity.com/ForceCommander/lilsiggy2.jpg">

OK, I just tried this one out, registering a new username and building a sig. I had to use the UBB code for an url=http://blabla... (in [brackets]), and then the UBB for and image nested inside. Strange, the darn thing is set to allow ubb image code, but the text says it ain't, and it does allow it! The first time it displayed, my 'is this OK' page, it had a border=2, but when I went to check my profile, it had a border=0. Odd. Let's test!<P> <IMG SRC="http://www.ozones.com/forum/siggie.gif">

OK, that worked badly, eh? Here's another try, after modifying most every one of my CGI scripts with a global to add the border=0 attribute, and hacking the texts just a bit. Wiil this work?<P>

Hey, papa! (And anyone else who's going to try and merge into the background!) On my sig, the first time, it merged badly, what was wrong? OK, maybe the ALTERNATING COLORS OF THE CELLS, hmm? Dammit. I ended up creating my image with a merge of those two colors, (light one first layer, dark one second layer, set that layer to 50%), and then used the transparency option. It seemed to work OK.<P>

Ah, yes, you always have to average the alternating colors!<P>I think it's important that signatures are simple and subtle, too... I took a risk with animating mine (animation is almost always distracting) but I think it turned out OK, since it changes so little.<P>A suggestion for all - try to merge your signatures with the background color around them; they look more natural that way. Try to avoid letting the edges of the image show.<P> <IMG SRC="http://www.angelfire.com/ma2/slimesareneat2/images/slimesig.gif">

Hey! Does anyone know the RGB values for the background of this forum?<P><P>/_-=SKAARJJ=-_\
Lepricosa...The Leprosy Ointment. For when your not half the man you used to be.

Skaarj, I did a screen capture of the page and then in Photoshop used the eyedropper to pluck out the various colors of the page.<P> <IMG SRC="http://www.raceamerica.net/images/sig.gif">

In hexadecimal:<P>The lighter color is #320808
The darker color is #240000
The average is #2B0404<P>In decimal:<P>The lighter color is rgb: 50, 8, 8
The darker color is rgb: 36, 0, 0
The average is rgb: 43, 4, 4<P>(the decimal values are out of 256.)<P> <IMG SRC="http://www.angelfire.com/ma2/slimesareneat2/images/slimesig.gif">

I am having the worst time seeing things correctly in here. I always have to reload every page...<P>Anyway, thanks, papa! I didn't know I could use regular HTML. Let's see how this new sig works out...<P>
Wes<P><IMG SRC="http://www.bigwaste.com/sig_01.gif" BORDER=0><p>[This message has been edited by Wes (edited 26-05-2000).]

Your points are well taken unfortunately, in trying to make your point, you may have missed mine.<P>What I was needing to know is how to store my signature image file with link, into the signature field of my profile?<P>It would NOT hold properly. After I would post, I would only get the tag but no image. I would then go back into my profile and half of my code had been "cut" out.<P>Perhaps that part of the form can be revised to allow a longer entry(?)<P>As for my image. I intended it to blend with the background but not seamlessly...after all it's my design no?<P>I'll try the average color and see how it goes later....thanks<P><IMG SRC="http://www.hypersolutions.com/2winspapasig.jpg" border=0>
<p>[This message has been edited by 2winspapa (edited 26-05-2000).]

Trying out my sig file. If it works any comments?<P>Cuius testiculos habes, habeas cardia et cerebellum.
- When you have thier full attention in your grip, their hearts and minds will follow.

Trying out my sig file. If it works any comments?<P>oppps.....gotta edit.<p>[This message has been edited by F1_error (edited 26-05-2000).]