Preserved Topic: First attempt at realistic shading (Page 1 of 1)

Opinions? Suggestions for future reference?

How about adding some water droplets and maybe even some fine veins?

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A more neutral background.

That is a really nice shape... Excellent shading! If you want realistic shading tho... you need to add some texture. It is way to clean and way to smooth now...

Get some pictures from google, and see what they have. Veins are good. more detail. It doesn't have to be perfect (although this is presumeably for valentine's day, so you don't want a beat-up rose) but in general what adds realism are the imperfections.

You know, for valentine's day last year I made this one:

maybe you can pick up something from it.

grrrrr...... Im gonna hava make one now... sheesh... I forgot all *about* valentine's day.

Hmm, OK, so obviously it needs texture. What's a good way to add texture? I've tried a few times, and haven't been able to add realistic veins to leaves or whatnot. The details are always the hard part =)

BTW, WJ, the background is temporary, and good guess mahjqa =)

Morph, I like your idea about the water droplets, although I don't think I'll be adding them to this.

Slime: add a layer, group it with the layer you have your petals on. You prpoably have to merge them for that, so be sure to save a backup. Fill the layer with black, then [filter>noise>add noise] in monochromatic, and at 400%. set the layer to [hard light], and 10% visibility. Grab the smudge tool (press R) and start smudging in the direction you want the veins in.

It's pretty basic, but it'll do the trick. By the way, this is no absolute way to do this, if it doesn't seem right go fiddle with other blending modes and opacities until you get what you want.

Good one, Slime. This is yur first ? Wow. Pretty good job for a first shading attempt.

Things that caught my eye...
The stem highlight on the left side is a bit too sharp, (or the transition to shadow is ) and makes it look a bit flat on one side. Same at the top where it joins the flower.

The texture thing has been covered, so on the vein thing, you might try setting a single line path where you want the vein to be and stroke it with the dodge tool, move it the width of the brush, and stroke it with the burn tool. smudge as necessary. (Or maybe on a layer above)







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Hey, Thanks for the tips guys! hhaha... I was just lookin at that Rose of mahjqa's when I went to review his webpage... I was thinkin, wow... I dont think I would have the patience to do that... heh...

Wow - very impressive Slime

I'm very interested in knowing how you went about creating the shapes and adding the shading. Is this all photoshop work? Hand drawn, or path work? etc..

The only suggestion I can make, aside from adding texture, is to add some brighter highlights. Not a lot, but a few here and there on the peaks of the petals. It's also noteworthy to say that most roses are not one consistent color...there are often at least subtle transformations at the tips of the petals.

Kinda funny, I've been looking at pictures of roses for a couple days now while I draw one out by hand for my daughter

Each petal is outlined with a path... some of the edges I drew a selection around and then just colored in the selection because it was faster than making a new path. I kinda surprised myself with how the shape came out so almost-realistically. =) First I did the second layer of petals in, then, noticing it would be too small, I did the outer layer. Then I did the stem, and then the inner layers of petals from the outside inwards. On the final inside petal, I just sort of scribbled with the dodge and burn tools, and it came out pretty good. Each petal is on its own layer.

Each petal started with a solid red color, and I dodged and burned them for shading.

The most important thing I did, I think, was make the petals sort of pointy. I looked at some roses on google and that's more or less what the petals look like.

[This message has been edited by Slime (edited 02-14-2002).]

wow... Much respect Slime! Much!!! I was wondering how you did that. When ever I shade things I usually start from a foto... In this case, a foto of a rose... I blocked out the rose shape in gray and then went to town with lights and darks, shading... checkin the foto to see how the petals curved... weehoo... that was a good long time to start at my monitor.... *yawn* I got a bunch of skool now tho... yeck...
I think it still need some shading? I am not going for fotorealism... im going more for painting... i guess... sure, why not?

Coolness. There's some nice stuff being tossed around in here. Izzay, I really like the roze on the right hand side. I'm also loving the use of colurs and tonal variations.

Slime, I'm loving the shapes and and depth you've worked into that. Some other suggestions might be to play with the colour values. The green for the stem for example just seems to intense. Say, did you use any reference images for that all was it all from your mental images of the flower?