Preserved Topic: DarkGarden... An Eyeball please.

Hi. Put eyeballs below.

old thread

Yea that thread needed to be closed sometime

VP: repeat that again?

I decided to throw realism right out the window, then it just got strange....


86k Clicky

Heh.

grin ... this is neat. i was just working on some eyes when i read dark garden's tut. i'll attach them below so you can see what i was working on. the sizing doesn't really allow for the more detailed effects that DG was talking about, but now i think i just gotta try something on a grander scale.






[This message has been edited by warjournal (edited 03-27-2002).]

Wow Dracusis I really like that, but then, I'm always a sucker for abstract art...still, I like it.

Welcome sexylyon, like it (but boy, is it green-blue?). Not bad.

I thought about Following DG's tutorial, then i saved it and thought i would do something else along the lines of eyes, more abstract
www.webfx.cz/eyeball.htm

hope ya like it there are two versions both about 90ishk thats why i linked back to em

Good one Peter. Thanks. Still have some blending practice to do, but the spatter blending thing is great.

thats fantastic DB, exellent.

Thanks, VP.
DarkGarden is pretty good at this stuff. When DG speaks technique, bob listens.

Drac.... Yah! Love it! Nice work... all of ya.... woo!

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That was a really nifty tutorial. And a LOVELY eye!

I am too set in my ways when it comes to drawing eyes, though. I just did it the "old fashioned" way in Photoshop - lots and lots of layers and the airbrush tool. I am not 100% happy with it, but got sick of picking at it.





[This message has been edited by bearsclover (edited 03-31-2002).]

Well im 110% happy with it if it makes you feel better.... I think that is great!

I played with this one a bit more. I think I`m done, now.
Crits and comments welcomed.

Maybe a lil bit off topic. But I just used DG's tut to make the texture for this eye even though its really a 3D pic.
http://akasha.y0ru.net:8080/~schitzo/

p.s. Bearsclover that is AMAZING!!!

::edit:: wrong url ::edit::

[This message has been edited by Schitzoboy (edited 04-01-2002).]

lashes nope , added red nope, and waht happened to the highlights on the cornea? you been drinking DB?

sorry DB

Thanks, for the kind words about the eye!

Schitzoboy, your "alien" eye is pretty cool. DG's tutorial is pretty fabulous, isn't it?

docilebob, I have to go with vogonpoet on the improvements of the eye. The actual eyeball is great, but the flesh around the eye (eyelid, eyebrow) needs some improvement. Eyelashes are really tricky little buggers. They need to be treated with a really delicate touch. (I think I need to write a tutorial on eyelashes! )

Heres a tut for eyeball stuff http://www.teamphotoshop.com/photoshop/tutorials/techniques/eyeballs/eyeballs.php

Lets play EyePONG!
I begin:
"The begining"

VP, bearsclover. You`re both absolutely correct. I guess I`d been staring at it too long. As I came back to check, I thought * Wow, I f*cked that up*..

Guess I`1m not as done as I thought.

Bearsclover - very nice indeed. It's good to see another person more versed in traditional art

DB - yeah, gotta agree with the masses on that. Good start, but at the end looks like whoever that eye belongs to is in some serious need of antidepressants!

Play with some soft brushes on those eyelashes

Will do, DL. The pencil tool was definately a bad idea..

God lookin at these graphics i feel shit, mine sucks

Workin on a good signature.

It only sucks till you practice. I've just read both threads on these eyes and now have all sorts of ideas. The first of whish is that I need a graphics tablet big time.

Nightshade:
Sort of missing the point man

It's not the tools that make the art. The first examples (the eyes that launched the thread) were made entirely with a trackball.

No Tablet.

Yes it's about practice...and painting what you see...not what you *think* you see.

Peter

Here's my little attempt at the eye. It definitely needs some eyelashes and a bit more touching up but I'm hungry and want to eat.



Whaddya tink?

very nice Matt, needs a little more detialing round the lids and like ya say some lashes would help, I like the colours and the eyebrow alot , good work

Depth Depth Depth.

Matt, it looks good, but you need some more depth to your shadows to give the real feeling of contour and shape. Look at "bearsclover's" example of the eye, and the depth of the inner orbit. Brilliant work there describing how indented that shape must seem when the light is as harsh as the highlight areas suggest.

The one other thing to really look at, is to note how you used grey on the eyeball for shade. Bad pool my man. The eye isn't "white" per se, it's just very light toned. Any shade of light falling on the eye itself will reflect and refract. Nothing will stay monotoned or flat grey at all, unless the skin does as well, under a grey light with no other tonal lighting at all, or any white. Work on mixing in a bir of reds, yellows, maybe a slight green as compliment to the skin tone.

More depth, better use of colour, and paint what you SEE...not what you think you see.


bearsclover: Brilliant work. I wanted to make this as simple as possible so to skip the "How do I make it exactly like...blah blah blah" that becomes intrinsic here at times. Your example is wonderful though. I love the hatching along the orbit and up toward the bridge. Very nice. The piqued tones are great as well. Good usage. I'd love to see more work at some point.

Kepping this a "build it, and they will paint.." sort of tutorial was important (time constraint too) just for people to understand how to work in layer thought without actually using layers....and also avoiding too much smudge, dodge, and burn (as a lot of people are wont to do here at times)

No magic...just paint. You're definitely nailing the steps that should probably come next. Nioce to see more traditional (sic) artwork around here. You would, and hopefully will have a lot to share with the folks here, and myself.



Good work guys.

Oh...and for those few and loud hijackers (Damn you Jamie...I'll put your fingers in a vise someday just to stop you from making more work for me..I swear it) I'll format the original thread post for "tutorial" status when I have the time.

And izzy, I haven't forgotten....noses when I get a chance too.

For the record...Kevin, you were always my hero...I get that feeling often now with something that's so much nicer: You're my friend.

I have been reading that right side of the brain book when I have time and am at the school Library. Its bringing back memories from my pre-highschool art classes! hehe, I had a good teacher back then... anywhooo... I ain't in any hurry, das jest gravy!

Thanks for your kind words, DarkGarden! I am most honored!

I must mention here that I am a "traditional" portriat artist. I have drawn since I was a kid, and am familiar with the "traditonal" art mediums (oils, watercolors, etc). I just got into Photoshop about 2 years ago. My Photoshop skills are not that advanced - all I did to create the eye in Photoshop was to "paint" it the same way I do with oils. With lots of layers. So naturally, I found DarkGarden's step-by-step tutorial for eyes in Photoshop to be especially fascinating! Kind of from the "inside out". Excellent!

There are some great portrait art books out there, which will help anyone to draw, render and/or paint the face with more knowledge, using Photoshop, or oil paints, or whatever. DarkGarden is totally right - it's about really SEEING what's really there, not what you think you see. Some of these books will help with that. The "Right Side of the Brain" book is a great place to start.

Oh, here's another Photoshop portrait. I did a quick pencil sketch of the face on paper, scanned it in, and then rendered over it with Photoshop. I sometimes draw the face from beginning to end with the Wacom tablet, but doing a quick sketch on paper, scanning it in and then working over it is a little easier.

Eh. I have a few anal-rententive problems with this face (I just made the guy up) but overall, it's OK.

bearsclover, do you only draw or paint portriat's or is that just what you like to do most?

Dracusis, I love portraits best, but I can paint/draw just about anything. Basically, if you can draw, you can draw anything you see. I will use a reference (model, photo) if I am drawing something that I am less familiar with. I always draw freehand, though (I'm a stickler for that).

One of my favorite things to paint (other than portraits) is landscape watercolors of Yosemite National Park.

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Nightshade:
Sort of missing the point man

It's not the tools that make the art. The first examples (the eyes that launched the thread) were made entirely with a trackball.

No Tablet.

Yes it's about practice...and painting what you see...not what you *think* you see.

Peter

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Well I guess it is matter of practice. I have had alot of trouble getting clean results with a trackball. I have been hoping to get a graphics tablet to allow some freehand work. I don't doubt a mouse or trackball cna do a good job I've known several people that have done incredible work with them. Just not I as of yet. I never stop trying though.

You wouldn't know what to do with yourself if you weren't buried with work DG.

Think of it as me doing you a favor!