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Radical Rob
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From: Kapolei, Hawaii USA
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posted posted 09-19-2002 10:26

Ok I did a search for etching, wood carving and nothing came ups o I guess its safe to ask if anyone would know of a tut that explains how to create a "burned into the wood" look. If you've ever been to Chili's I think they have something like that on their menu....

I tried several techniques but nothing looks quite real, as soon as my server goes back up I will post a pic or 2.

thanks in advance!



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njuice42
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posted posted 09-19-2002 10:45

My best bet? Flat black (slightly faded/blurred) alphas, lighting effect, then a bit of hand work on a 'Color Burn' layer.

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Emperor
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posted posted 09-19-2002 13:05

Radical Bob:
http://faq.ozoneasylum.com/183/

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Emperor
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posted posted 09-19-2002 13:31

Its a pity the original thread is missing but the above FAQ has links to various follow ups. As a lot of images and things were missing I took the opportunity to grab db's saved copy of DG's mini-tutorial and so I slotted it into its own page:
http://faq.ozoneasylum.com/792/

If anyone fancies recreating the graphics and the PSD then we can add them in to

The original thread was here:
http://www.ozones.com/forum/Forum3/HTML/000508.html

didn't the Doc say he'd found an old version of the forum lying around? Possibly some threads can still be found?

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docilebob
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posted posted 09-20-2002 05:25

I took a shot at it .
Doesn`t look near as good as I remember the original looking, but ..there ya go.

Slime
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posted posted 09-20-2002 05:38

DB: That's good, but you need to give it the feeling that the burned parts go *into* the wood a little bit. The wood looks flat.

Not that I could do any better =)

C_B_Pye
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posted posted 09-20-2002 06:31

I'm still not a guru, but I'm guessing that DB could have copied the layer with the "A and circle" on it, used blending styles to set it's fill opacity to 0%, and using the bevel/emboss tool, exchaning the screen and multiply values for dodge and burn, toying with them, and setting it to somthing like outer pillow emboss or whatever. Just my best guess. *shrug*


It could always be more fantastic...

DarkGarden
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posted posted 09-20-2002 12:47

Ah Bob...my favourite saver of antiquities

I think the original you meant was dis one, jes?


I'll toss together images and a PSD if I get a chance. Too busy working on Pong stuff in between paying shite. Or Monsieur Bob can do up a step by step with pitchers. I'd love that methinks. He does some great work dat guy does.

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As an aside...Bob, set it as inlay, yep. Highlights and shadows on the edges of the "burn", yep. And the only other crit..make more of the "wind" parts run horizontal, with the woodgrain not against it. (We old wood butchers need to remember that now and then...it still fucks me up at times when I least expect.) I know the vertical burns need to be there, but they overpower the horizontals right now.



[This message has been edited by DarkGarden (edited 09-20-2002).]

docilebob
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posted posted 09-21-2002 03:46

Yup, dat would be da one. Great stuff.

I`m thinkin maybe I overpowered the noise/size ratio on the horizontals. Wind blew them apart.
Absolutely right on the verticals, and burn edges.

No need to suck up, DG.
I`d be glad to give it another shot, if you don`t have time.

docilebob
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posted posted 09-21-2002 06:17

Ok, here we go...

Alternate to step 8



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Okay, fast and dirty, let's see if I can explain it. I just whipped it up tonight after seeing this post so the method is a bit fresh.

I cheated on the texture and had a premade one that I've used for a while. Thought the suggestions on wood texture above work well (especially F1's I'm a proponent of playing with real nature)

So, with our base wood texture in place..here we go.


1. Make a new channel, filling the shape you want "burned in" with white on the default black background. Make a selection of this (hold Ctrl or Command and click, or drag down to the dotted "load" circle)


2. Create a New Layer, and fill the selection with a medium, to dark grey. We'll name this layer "Grain" for when I reference it in a sec.


3. Create another New Layer (keep the original selection) and fill the selection on this layer with black, and we'll name this one "Burn". Click the eye beside the layer to make this one invisible for now. Now ditch the selection for now. (SELECT>>>DESELECT, or just click anywhere with the marquee tool selected)




4. Go back to the Grain Layer. Go to FILTERS>>>NOISE>>>ADD NOISE. Play with your settings for different results, but I used about 150 for the amount, and set to Gaussian, and monochromatic.


5. Now, go to FILTERS>>>BLUR>>>MOTION BLUR. Make a blur of 5 to ten pixels in the direction of the grain.



6. Still on the Grain Layer, go to FILTERS>>>STYLIZE>>>WIND. Use normal wind, no blast or stagger. Go from left. Click OK. Now repeat once.

Do the wind filter again, but change the settings to go From right. And repeat once more.

So that's 4 filterings with wind...two left, two right (in case anyone got confused)





<edit>Forgot to link to the inset tute</edit>



[This message has been edited by docilebob (edited 09-21-2002).]

docilebob
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From: buttcrack of the midwest
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posted posted 09-21-2002 06:23

7. Go to the Blending Mode menu, and select Color Burn. Play with the opacity a bit, but setting to about 80 percent or so gives decent results.


8. Now we cheat..heh. (WARNING: Purists or people using PS 4 or less, use Doc's inset bar tutorial for the next part, it's linked above, and is the preferred method when I'm not cheating )

Right click on the Grain Layer to and click on Layer Effects. Shut off the default drop shadow, and go to Bevel and Emboss.

Use an Outer Bevel, Down, with a depth of only 2 or 3, and a blur of 0 or 1. Play with your highlight and shadow, but setting to about 65% for both, and using either screen or color dodge for the highlights, and multiply, or color burn for the shadows works well depending on how "glossy" you want the burn edge to look.



9. Click on the Burn Layer now to make it visible again. Go to the Blending Mode menu and set to Color Burn. Start dropping the opacity until you get a nice dark shape, that still shows the wood grain through rather well. This step just helps keep the shape defined in the "burnt wood".


10. Go back to the Channels palette (or use the Ctrl Key Click method on the Burn Layer) and make the shape Selection again. Create a new layer above the Burn Layer, and name it Scorch.


11. get your Airbrush Tool, and make a few random strokes/splotches using black on the Scorch Layer. Deselect, and set to Color Burn. Again, play with the opacity to get the little overburnt areas to mesh with the grain.



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Now, that does it, except for the vertical "scorch lines" that you see there. I'll go through those really fast, as they're unnecessary, but they add to the reality of wood burns.
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12. Another New Layer, use the shape selection, and the same grey fill, and Noise settings we used for the Grain Layer.


13. Deselect, and go to IMAGE>>>ROTATE CANVAS>>>90° CW. Once that's done, do a motion blur (horizontal, a few pixels) and go to IMAGE>>>ADJUST>>>INVERT.


14.Run the wind filter again. From Right, and repeat two or three more times. Now redo the Invert from the last step.


15. Do a very slight gaussian blur (FILTERS>>>BLUR>>>GAUSSIAN less than 1.5 pixels) and set the blending mode to...you guessed it...Color Burn. Now adjust the opacity.... Rotate the Canvas 90° CCW....



and we're finished. .psd
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Emperor
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posted posted 09-21-2002 13:21

db: Great stuff - I've updated the FAQ to reflect your new additions:
http://faq.ozoneasylum.com/792/

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DarkGarden
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From: in media rea
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posted posted 09-21-2002 14:09

~applauds~

You brilliant bastard. Love it. Now dirty it up a bit with some textured brushes used for burns and the eraser too.

Love love love it. Good job, bob.

Nice symbol too

docilebob
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posted posted 09-22-2002 06:43

Brilliant , I think, is a bit strong, but I bow to your superior judgement..

Mo dirtier

vogonpoet
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posted posted 09-22-2002 16:30

good stuff DB

Bugimus
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posted posted 09-23-2002 04:02

~amazed~ That looks very realistic!

Radical Rob
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From: Kapolei, Hawaii USA
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posted posted 09-23-2002 12:21

damn bob your one sic individual! that was by far one of the best explanations I've seen...
i will be sure to post the results.

thanks!




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Dufty
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posted posted 09-23-2002 14:18

*Looks at docilebob - applauds - grinz - skulks back to his corner*

DarkGarden
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posted posted 09-23-2002 14:22

Jesus Bob, is that the original text I wrote up?

Was that saved from way back when? ~sighs recalling the days of wine and roses~
You're a star man, an absolute star.

I remember saying it once, but it needs saying again: The amount of progress you've made from the time I first saw you here is astronomical. Your work is truly top end now...top end.

And that ain't no sphincter smooch.

docilebob
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posted posted 09-24-2002 03:44

DarkGarden : Yea, that`s your text from the days of wine and roses. Great stuff. And thank you . Coming from you that means alot.

Thanks all, for the kind words. I appreciate them. Really. But this isn`t ground greaking work, here. I just reproduced DarkGardens` logo, followed the tutorial, and took some screen caps.
Give it a run. You can do it , too. It`s a good tute.
All I did after the tute was add one more layer ( copy of the *burn* layer) gaussian blured it, and set it to color burn. For the overburn looking edges. Then dirtied it up ( as Peter suggested) with a textured brush/eraser.

Everybody try it now. Let`s burn some wood. In celebration of the Days of Wine and Roses.
( not like the last few Days of Whine and Hosers)


C`mon, you know you want to...




"Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's troublesome."
- Isaac Asimov

eyezaer
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From: the Psychiatric Ward
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posted posted 09-24-2002 04:30

heres an oldie.



and heh... I just tryed to etch a pic of a flower in to a piece of wood in record time. bleh, didnt turn out very well. blah beh bahh

                                                           

MindBender
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posted posted 09-25-2002 15:17

Okay DB... here you go
The tutorial wasn't working for me though, so I kinda.. um.. made it up as I went. *shrugs*
http://mindbender.netfirms.com/asylum/burntwood.jpg



Whatever doesn't kill us...
Is probably circling back for another try.


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Dufty
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posted posted 09-25-2002 16:01
quote:
But this isn`t ground greaking work, here. I just reproduced DarkGardens` logo, followed the tutorial, and took some screen caps.


I don't think it's merely a matter of how much/little work you put into it...
IMHO, it's just nice to see more 'giving-something-back' going on.

Nice one docilebob - for keeping the spirit alive

Reminds me of why I stuck around.

GRUMBLE
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posted posted 09-25-2002 22:23

izzy, that shape is supposed to be a flower?

i remember it from your early sigs and i always thought its an eye.

eyezaer
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posted posted 09-25-2002 22:34

nah nah. try the links silly!

                                                           

MindBender
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From: a pocket dimention...
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posted posted 09-26-2002 03:28

Hrm... doesn't so much look like burnt into wood as it does pressed into concrete... like you mashed a shape into wet concrete and then took it out and it left a mold behind. Still a cool effect though.


Whatever doesn't kill us...
Is probably circling back for another try.

DarkGarden
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posted posted 09-26-2002 14:23

Have you ever done wood-burning/branding?

~shrug~

YMMV, but it's pretty damned straight.

spasquini
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From: Italy
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posted posted 09-27-2002 11:13

To DarkGarden:

I wrote you an e-mail about this effect, can you check it and answer me, please ?

spasquini
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From: Italy
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posted posted 10-14-2002 09:53

To everyone and to DarkGarden:

I set up the tutorial on my site, go to check it by pressing my signature and tell me what you think about.

I spoke already with people at GurusNetwork. I'll set it up also from them in a while.

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