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warjournal
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From:
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted posted 01-12-2003 18:39

It was bound to happen. Using Mahlqa's Patented Fire Technique to build a D-Map. What can I say?

I got the bug pretty bad last night. I got a very solid start on it, but I'm not sure when I'll be able to finish it. Even though it's not finished, I would appreciate any thoughts on what I have so far. You know, give me a head start on the first edit.

I'm sure most of you folks know where it's going and finish it up by yourselves before I get the chance to finish the tutorial.

Heat Waves

play.fiddle.learn


InSiDeR
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Oblivion
Insane since: Sep 2001

posted posted 01-12-2003 18:49

Who's Mahlqa?

Ruski
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From:
Insane since: Jul 2002

posted posted 01-12-2003 19:27

Insider why are you trying to act like a badass when you are just being an idiot.....well he simply made a spelling mistake...so why post a stupid answear when you know yourself that he was refering it to Mahjqa...well?



InSiDeR
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Oblivion
Insane since: Sep 2001

posted posted 01-12-2003 19:35

lmao, whatever

[This message has been edited by InSiDeR (edited 01-12-2003).]

tomeaglescz
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Czech Republic via Bristol UK
Insane since: Feb 2002

posted posted 01-12-2003 19:45

you two please do us all a favour, quit before this thread disintigrates any further PLEASE.

meanwhile back on track:

WJ nice effect, could be a cool way to make the whole figure look like something from predator (infrared images) not just a halo effect... nice variation on mahqa's theme

eyezaer
Lunatic (VI) Mad Scientist

From: the Psychiatric Ward
Insane since: Sep 2000

posted posted 01-12-2003 19:49

Any more from you 2 and I Will delete it.

Wow, I think i have goose bumps to, i cant wait to see the end product... I may have to go play for myself.
I dont have anything to add now... perhaps later.



                                   

vogonpoet
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Mi, USA
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted posted 01-12-2003 20:14

looking forward to seeing this one finished WJ

mahjqa
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: The Demented Side of the Fence
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted posted 01-12-2003 21:09

Looks nifty.. wish I had the time to try it myself. adn yeah, I may complain, but actually I'm to blame for picking a weird name.

Yeah. it's me.

EzRa-D
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From:
Insane since: Dec 2002

posted posted 01-12-2003 23:10

thats a great idea! im gonna try it, maybe tonight..

warjournal
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From:
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted posted 01-13-2003 00:51

Mahjqa, I fixed your nick in the tut, but I'm too lazy to edit my original post. At least I misspelled it consistantly. If it makes you feel any better, people on the 'net are constantly mistaking me for being female no matter what nick I use. Figger that out. Although, that hasn't happened around here that I know of.

I'm pretty sure I'm finished with this one for now. Be doing some editing in the coming days or months.

The final looks pretty crappy. If you make it look better by adding frames and more colours, the file size will might make the graphic useless - I'm talking over 200k with out breaking a sweat.

Heat Waves




[This message has been edited by warjournal (edited 01-13-2003).]

krets
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: KC, KS
Insane since: Nov 2002

posted posted 01-13-2003 03:27

You're a guy? Well color me stupified.

InSiDeR
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Oblivion
Insane since: Sep 2001

posted posted 01-13-2003 03:37

I'm curious though, what could one do with this tut? Is there anything in particular someone could use it for?

DarkGarden
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: in media rea
Insane since: Jul 2000

posted posted 01-13-2003 03:45

You mean aside from creating animations of constanly morphing structure that seems to flow almost chaotically, yet seamlessly in a three dimensional plane of displacement?


Oh probably nothing.


~shakes head~

Specific uses are needed for learning a new process and idea? Your teachers must just love you...spit the rote...

Thinking about flags and wind and explosions yet wj?




warjournal
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From:
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted posted 01-13-2003 05:08

If you know how to use your head, other than what DG said, you can do all sorts of things. A few months ago I did some dancing vertical lines using a stripped down version and it was great. Vertical lines getting their groove on for only a few kilobytes.

I did do an explosion-esque thing the other day. Did it just like I said way back when Mahjqa's fire tutorial was tearing up the sig forum. It came out decent enough. I even wrote a decent chunk of text of how to do it. Might eventually end up on Tech-Slop, but I doubt it.

And thanks, DG, for mentioning 'flag' and 'wind' in the same sentence. I still have nightmares about that awful tutorial. Just plain wrong on so many levels. I e-mailed that guy once and gave him an earfull.

No!
I will not think about animating the flag!
I will not think about animating the flag!

docilebob
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: buttcrack of the midwest
Insane since: Oct 2000

posted posted 01-13-2003 05:15

Good one WJ. Have to play with this one .

Insider : I have never seen anyone put so much effort into being a moron. ~sigh~ I guess everybody needs a hobby..

WebShaman
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Happy Hunting Grounds...
Insane since: Mar 2001

posted posted 01-13-2003 08:56

Good job, wj! Way to 'run with an idea'...this is one of the reasons I so love this place...



MindBender
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: a pocket dimention...
Insane since: Sep 2002

posted posted 01-13-2003 12:28

You scare me with this stuff ... both of you. Between WJ and Mahjqa I'm about ready to play.fiddle.quit. What's the point? You guys have already figured out EVERYTHING that can be done!!

I wonder if you could get this to make good animated water...

rock on gurus

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That we're free to do anything...

tomeaglescz
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Czech Republic via Bristol UK
Insane since: Feb 2002

posted posted 01-13-2003 12:55

MindBender these guys started the same way as everyone else, and just practiced played fiddled and tweaked, (OK so they do it better than most) but WS is right, every once in a while, someone comes up with something, and ya jaw drops...

MindBender
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: a pocket dimention...
Insane since: Sep 2002

posted posted 01-13-2003 15:57

It was meant to be humorous tomeaglescz... I'm well aware of the process... artists like WJ and Mahjqa just make it all look too damned easy, heh.

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It's only after we've lost everything...
That we're free to do anything...

Moth
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: columbus, ohio, usa
Insane since: Jul 2002

posted posted 01-13-2003 17:30

warjournal, that's a pretty cool tutorial. Seems to me this technique could be used to simulate water as well as heat waves. A couple of months ago I combined mahjqa's fire animation technique with his liquid technique (the one on how he did the lava lamp) to make an interesting candle-flame. It still may be on-line in the sig forum. If I have time I'll try the same thing with displace and post the results.

kaboi
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Nairobi, Kenya
Insane since: Mar 2002

posted posted 01-14-2003 19:34

very nice WJ.

I think you might have an idea going on there Moth, I'll give it a try to come up with some ripples.

mahjqa
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: The Demented Side of the Fence
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted posted 01-14-2003 23:35




A little bit of fiddling on my side....

The displacement map I used was this:



You see that the pattern repeats every 7 pixels. for every frame of the animation, I shoved the pattern upwards one pixel, so that the animation repeats every 7 frames.

The pattern itself was made with noise, and then motion blur over it (horizontal, 12 pixels)

It's a bit too bad that I used a picture without much definition, especially in the sand/sky areas.

docilebob
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: buttcrack of the midwest
Insane since: Oct 2000

posted posted 01-15-2003 01:21

Maybe if you darkened the map a bit( increase the contrast), it would displace the lower contrast areas better ...

Just a thought.

warjournal
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From:
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted posted 01-15-2003 09:46

Before I forget:
Shut up, Krets!

I did the water thing a long time ago. Several variations and *very* pleased with all of them. However, I didn't find it interesting enough to talk about. I recommend 2-channel and some Gauss to soften it up.

Mahjqa, I can't really see what you did. Too subtle for my crappy monitor and resolution. I'll do it for myself one of these days because I bet it's tasty.

******** [15 minutes later]

Little one woke up, and I just fed her a bottle and put her back to sleep. Now I can't remember what else I had to say. Maybe I'll remember in the morning after some sleep. Maybe not.
G'nite, folks.

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