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DL-44
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posted posted 11-07-2002 03:12

Nice Michael. Definately adds a degree of seperation from the stor troopers. {{edit - needs a belly button though!!}}

I am all for more 3D shading, not sure how difficult to implement it may be....but I think it'd be worth the effort.

I'd also like to add that I am approximately 6 feet tall. My head is approximately 9 inches tall. That would make my head 1/8 of my total height (insider - hold a ruler to your head! Imagine your head that big? ouch....).

The average proportion is between 7 and a half and 8 heads' height for an adult male.

We obviously need a much more exagerated proportion, so it really doesn't matter much





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Emperor
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Cell 53, East Wing
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posted posted 11-11-2002 17:04

OK anyone got any ideas for improvements, etc.?

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mahjqa
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: The Demented Side of the Fence
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted posted 11-11-2002 18:15

I'm still working on my version.. don't hold your breath.

Emperor
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Cell 53, East Wing
Insane since: Jul 2001

posted posted 11-11-2002 18:28

mahjqa: Cool - I was just making sure this stage hadn't slipped from view as if we are going to get something moving then we need this template

I look forward to seeing what you come up with

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mahjqa
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posted posted 11-11-2002 19:32

It came out more like an interpolation of the two.. At first I went for a more realistic approach, but with this stance and style there's no way to add a more curved look without f'ing it up.





[This message has been edited by mahjqa (edited 11-11-2002).]

Emperor
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Cell 53, East Wing
Insane since: Jul 2001

posted posted 11-11-2002 20:36

mahjqa: Nice work - the trick is clearly to use low angles and straight lines and that is really working for me

We are probably going to kick ideas around and pick bits we like from the different ones to produce a finalised version (so it would help if people said what they liked from each one and what they didn't as well as thoughts on imporving things).

So I like the top of mahjqa's head but the lower half is still a little square and Micheal's has a more realistic jaw line.

The lower half of mahjqa's looks really good.

The arms are tricky mahjqa's look good but there is still a pipecleaner look about them and Michael's look more realistic. I'm not sure if there is an easy fix to that although pos. a thickening of the arm in the armpit area is the way to go or making the back slightly wider at that point?

Really nice work from everyone - I'd be interested to hear what other people thought.

Micheal is just preparing a single graphic for all 3 templates so we can compare things a little better:

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Michael
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: *land
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posted posted 11-11-2002 20:39

it would seem we keep getting taller..... hehe



psd. --> clicky!

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Emperor
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Cell 53, East Wing
Insane since: Jul 2001

posted posted 11-11-2002 20:46

Michael: Its clearly the better diet here in the Asylum (or the unsafe experiments with radioactivity) - makes the kids grow bigger

Thanks for that it helps a lot.

I also like the shading mahjqa has done - much better: a more subtle light from top left

Anyone got any further thoughts?

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InSiDeR
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Oblivion
Insane since: Sep 2001

posted posted 11-11-2002 21:36

The second one looks like he has nubs for legs.

eyezaer
Lunatic (VI) Mad Scientist

From: the Psychiatric Ward
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posted posted 11-11-2002 21:41

nah... looks like he can do some madd squats.... pretty weak on the bench presses though.
Love seein the toes... they need work though. heh... also a little more shading would be nice to add some depth.

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Michael
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: *land
Insane since: Nov 2000

posted posted 11-11-2002 21:58

keep in mind, people..... this project... and this template is open for anyone to mess with.
I certainly don't have the time to be mucking with it at the moment....
So grab the psd... or just copy the pic and do some work on it.
This is a group effort.

eyezaer
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From: the Psychiatric Ward
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posted posted 11-12-2002 00:46

Exactly! thas why i added my thoughts... not pixels. ttfn!

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Emperor
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Cell 53, East Wing
Insane since: Jul 2001

posted posted 12-23-2002 23:47

And we'll bump this Bad Boy.

Thoughts and input - as I said in the other thread there are people out there looking for a replacement to the stortroopers.

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silence
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From: soon to be "the land down under"
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posted posted 12-24-2002 00:04

I made a few slight modifications by making the chest bigger and taper down to the waist as well as broadening the shoulders.



I don't know if it works or not, but it seems more fleshed out to me now.

psd here

Michael
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: *land
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posted posted 12-24-2002 00:39

i thought those shoulders looked rediculous.



psd


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Emperor
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Cell 53, East Wing
Insane since: Jul 2001

posted posted 12-24-2002 01:43

silence: Nice work

Yes indeed this is looking like it is coming along nicely.

The shoulders are too square for our initial test unisex model but I like the chest work - does that last one look just a little too short for that width?

I'm not sure what other people think but having the lighting coming from the top left is more 'conventional' (although I notice the original storTrooper didn't have it like that).

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silence
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: soon to be "the land down under"
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posted posted 12-24-2002 02:40

Yeah, I think the shoulders are much better now, Micheal.

chudzta
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Williamsburg, VA
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posted posted 12-24-2002 03:15

the shoulders are much nicer there.. yes light should be from top-left, everything else is.. why be queer now.. im not sure bout the head shape, its pretty big.. almost like mine but mine isnt that wide, lol.. he looks a little more.. i dunno, it gave a diff vibe there.. id be really interested in seeing this get finished.. just wanted to say keep at it

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Emperor
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Cell 53, East Wing
Insane since: Jul 2001

posted posted 12-24-2002 03:24

I do think we need to focus on head size and shape - I prefer head 2 although possibly with the top of the head from 3 and 4. Thoughts?

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chudzta
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Williamsburg, VA
Insane since: Aug 2002

posted posted 12-24-2002 03:42

hey emp, i think 3-4 and the top look all good, i think its the jaw structure on those 2 that is making it a lil iffy, im working on it now.. if any1 cares, i dunno if i'll post or not, depends if it looks liek i made much of a diff when im done..

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Michael
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From: *land
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posted posted 12-24-2002 03:43

nit picky bastards.



psd



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chudzta
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From: Williamsburg, VA
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posted posted 12-24-2002 03:52

alright mike, i like the head, i was working on an edit of diff other parts to see if anyone liked or not.. should i still continue, or.. run and hide.. i can dance like a flamingo to, but mayb tmrw night for that, my knee is sore

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Michael
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posted posted 12-24-2002 04:05

nah man.... grab it and go.
keep mixin' it up and throw out new ideas for people to look at.


I, on the other hand.........
.... am heading to bed. =)



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chudzta
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From: Williamsburg, VA
Insane since: Aug 2002

posted posted 12-24-2002 04:21

alright, i should be able to find an image host, how would i go bout the PSD file.. maybe on one yins got aol and i could send it to ya to post for me?? sry i either know my stuff or i dont..

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Emperor
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Cell 53, East Wing
Insane since: Jul 2001

posted posted 12-24-2002 04:44

Michael: Good work I love it - it seems a little narrow for the size but it gives an interesting stylised touch that I really like (a little like a moa??).

chudzta: Upload your version to one of the sig hosting sites and we can sort the PSD out later.

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chudzta
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From: Williamsburg, VA
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posted posted 12-24-2002 04:58

Okay emp..
I edited the toes, shins, wrists, and elbows.. Looks a lil more i dunno bent to me, we'll see the response i suppose..



- Chudzta

InSiDeR
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Oblivion
Insane since: Sep 2001

posted posted 12-24-2002 05:46

I like those! I like those a lot, and I am more than willing to make clothing for all of them if needed.

DarkGarden
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posted posted 12-24-2002 12:51






Michael
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posted posted 12-24-2002 13:18




original stor trooper for comparitive purposes as we continue to make changes.


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Emperor
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Cell 53, East Wing
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posted posted 12-24-2002 15:36

Great work from everyone there - DG's certainly has a little something that I like (this isn't a pun by the way). One thing though the feet look a little wide - I'd prefer the standard cartoon convention of 4 digits as in number 2. Other than that............

Anyway this is looking great we only want a prototype so we can move on and get the other aspects (clothes, client and server coding) sorted and so I think we should start wrapping this aspect up. Anyone got any other comments?

Remember once we have developed the basic model we can then come back and adapt the template to our needs (heights and builds was mentioned which would be interesting).

[edit: The hands also look a little odd - the one's on 3 and 4 look better. They will usually be poking out and so they need to look 'right' ]

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Michael
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From: *land
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posted posted 12-24-2002 16:21



emps mentioned a hands and feet change.


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Emperor
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Cell 53, East Wing
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posted posted 12-24-2002 16:26

Michael: Nice work - like the feet a lot. I think the hands look better but what do other people think?

Hmmmmmmmm now I look again I see something oddly familiar about #10 but I can't quite pin it down.......

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EzRa-D
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posted posted 12-24-2002 17:28

i dont really know what the stor trooper was and i only half way follow the conversations about backends and interfaces, but i can make some clothes or something...


my main contribution is the groin bump, every man needs a groin bump!

PSD(oops! fixed now)


.:anything to stop the voices!!

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Emperor
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Cell 53, East Wing
Insane since: Jul 2001

posted posted 12-24-2002 17:32

EzRa-D: LOL - well indeed we do

Your iteration is a little knobbly for my tastes (no pun intended) but good move

If you have any broader questions then feel free to ask them in the other thread in the main forum (we'll try and keep this focused on actually making the initial pixel person prototype.

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EzRa-D
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From:
Insane since: Dec 2002

posted posted 12-24-2002 17:57

im a knobbly guy what can i say

chudzta
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Williamsburg, VA
Insane since: Aug 2002

posted posted 12-25-2002 21:22

im not tooo sure the knees look entirely.. whatever they look like ocean ripples now, and i know the indents make sense when i look at my knees but in the pixel art realm here.. ahh who knows.. wont matter much with pants on, what about shorts tho, hrmm..

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ObiWanAdobe
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From: Star Wars
Insane since: Dec 2002

posted posted 12-26-2002 17:57

Does anyone know any good Beginner tutorials for pixel art is?I gogled and yahooed for a day now.Not much on it.just some pixel art and paintings but no tutorials.I looked on the Faqs.But thats a little to advance for me. I want to make make pixel art like Mas does and the other people on here.I will make me a pixel art Person :0) for this post.Thxs for the Help ObiWanAdobe

N/M I FINALLY FOUND SOMETHING.I need Glasses

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Emperor
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Cell 53, East Wing
Insane since: Jul 2001

posted posted 12-27-2002 13:33

OK I think we have a great selection here unless anyone has any other ideas/thoughts/versions to throw in I'd suggest shutting this thread down and opening up one where we pick the one we are going to use for the prototype so we can move the other aspects of this along.

And for anyone looking for information on making sprites/pixel art:

:FAQ:

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WebShaman
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Happy Hunting Grounds...
Insane since: Mar 2001

posted posted 12-27-2002 13:35

Hmmm...has anyone considered the fact, that the PixelPerson template is to be used for both sexes? Or are we going to be using two templates, one for a man, one for a woman? Suggestions? Comments?

BTW - that head does look awefully familiar...hmmm....

Emperor
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Cell 53, East Wing
Insane since: Jul 2001

posted posted 12-27-2002 13:40

WS: Yes to avoid complications we were concentrating on the male prototype as developing the 2 sexes at the same time could have lead to the two designs diverging and looking odd. So we were waiting until the male one was done and then we'd tweak that into the female.

I was also trying not to think about male -> female sex change operations in too much detail

I think tha pixel person is familiar as I believe it is Allewyn

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