Preserved Topic: Stuff to art? (Page 1 of 1)

I was just wondering how one takes all of this knoledge of stuff and turns it into a piece of detailed art?

Take something like a graphic of a city. How many layers does it take? How much time is reasonable (if you are quite proficient) to do it well? Are their shortcuts?

I was just wondering this as all I've done so far are buttons, small graphics etc and am wanting to move to the next step.

JMJimmy

its all about experimenting and spending quality time with Photoshop.

Cant say anymore than that..... experiment, play, use your imagination.. *Art* does *NOT* have a formula...

Art is an expression from within yourself... the tools and methods you use to share your expression are just tools and like anything new, practice and learning how to use your tool is all you can do

There is no answer to your question... your the answer
~Vp~

Well put VP. It takes time to do detail. As far a layers, that all depends on your approach and what you are shooting for. Some people can do with very few layers while others use tons of layers. There are always shortcuts, but they are usually in how you use the tools you have, and sometimes they can effect the final result. Practice makes perfect in almost any discipline.

-D

Well said VP. If you don`t have the art in you, the tools won`t help. If you do, you`ll find a way to use the tools to get it out.

Michaelangelo prolly practiced with the paint brush tool a bit before doing the ones we know him for, eh ?

thats art vp?... bummer.

um.... i actually started with wall papers, to some pictures of stuff and put them together.... then i started making wall papers based on one picture then from scratch. I dont have ONE way i do anyting. i do not have 2 wall papers that look anything alike. I start with some idea then I may doodle on paper. eat a pear..... paint a pair. heh.... start with something that has... potential... and run with it. some times i watch the commercails for the SciFi channel and get some really cool idea, and the in photoshop i run the other way totally and now.... i will cease with this strange rambling....

If you just want to create pretty pictures, then learn how to use photoshop well... If you want to create Art. Take some Art classes. To add to VP's wonderful reply, Art is not a physical thing in any essence. If you look at a Picasso, ask yourself where exactly is the art?

Is it in the Paint that was used?
Is it the Canvas it was painted on?
Is it the Picture that the paint forms on the Canvas?

The an to all of these is no! Art cannot be defined by a physical object of any kind. If someone was to burn all of an artists paintings he is still an artist.

Do not let the tools you use restrict your artistic expression from the beginning.

Also most artists I ever known (I know quite a lot) will often spend months to years working up to one piece. They will often do many (50+) drawings and sketches before they even move onto a Canvas. They study about what they wish to make art about.

If you wish to make art about the city, you should try and find out why you want to make art about the city. Which part of the city is it that interests you the most. Is it the shadows, or the textures. Mabey it's not the city but all the people. Studying these things will allow you to form ideas in you mind that will help in completing you art work.

I could indeed say a lot more about this but, I getting a little tired of Typing. But if you really want to create art, Take some art classes, and learn to use your tools to their full potential.


Humm... Seems like yet another rant from me.

Dracusis

I can show you how to reproduce a piece of art (on paper, on canvas), but I can't show you how to create art.

It's like the guitar. I've been playing guitar for a while now, and people are always asking me to teach them how to play. So I show a couple of chords and a song that uses those chords. I can't show them how to create a great song, but I've seen some people take those same two chords and write a great piece of music.

It's not always how much you know, it's what you do with that knowledge. Hell, you can take the paintbrush tool and the default color palette and recreate the Sistine Chapel on the screen if you were artistically inclined.

To sum up. Art is something that happens to you, not something you do do.

Hrm, perhaps I shouldn't have included the word "art" lol. I was refering to taking the basics I've learned in PS and making a more complex image...


By Alen Yen

or something more difficult(?)...




By B.J.Johnson


JMJimmy

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Some times birthing pangs are never ending

Well, JM Jimmy, same answers ( all good ones BTW ) still apply.

Unless, of course, you were asking about a technique for layering stuff together, in which case all these great minds
went off on a tangent together.

Oh, yea, * art ? *, nothing happens around here that doesn`t involve one art form or another.

Love the driftwood, DocC. I did a carving similar to that one in cedar once. Really sharp tools are great fun, too.

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JMJimmy:
"am wanting to move to the next step"

do it.

You seem to know what you want to do so go ahead. Stick to it til it comes out the way you want it. You'll never know until you get started.

Both the drawings you posted as examples are, for the most part, drawings, so draw. The 2nd is much pen tool work and probably would drive you mad trying to do it in Photoshop, that's better suited to Illustrator or Freehand.

you can do it, draw what you see, not what you think is there.

Hehe thanks JKM

*makes note, find Illistrator and Freehand*

JMJimmy

Hey Jimmy, I found this cool site you might find interesting.

http://members.aol.com/ScottAMcD/index.html

There's a lot of great stuff there.

Thanks, but not really into the comics scene. hehe... the examples I give beg to differ but hey thats me... perpetually confusing and confused

JMJimmy

Thanks for the thought

Actually, his tutorials are great for stuff besides comics. The one's on perspective are esp. helpful.

To each his own, though...