Preserved Topic: Jestah v4.0

Just a basic layout here, not too much content added yet.
Please note this is just a personal site where I was messing around with a chromeless window so I think it only works in IE. I normally don't design just for IE, I just think its neat. I'm going to change the launch page once I get a free chance, and I already know the scroll is rather unclear. I'm going to add a better text layout then what is there perhaps tomorrow.

Anyone, let me know what you think.

Jestah v4.0

Disreguard the angelfire server, I like to do my trial work in free space.



.sig by Weadah.

i know hate anglefire FRIGGIN POPUPS...

anyway... um.... that is one funky page.

nav.... is.... gone. crom? confused.... very conffused.... bad... need... pillls...

um. the color skeem is pretty... Gray? okay.... sure.

the windo for the text is not full of text, i mean there is a lot of white space to the bottom and right of the text.

that is insane man. I like things that confuse me.



edit: fixed spellin.

[This message has been edited by eyezaer (edited 03-26-2001).]

I found a problem.... when you click on the "ring around the asylum" (i know it is not yet working) you get another page up, but there is no way to move/resize/Close the page. could be a problem... i gotta shut down IE now or use the Backspace key to get back to your page so i can use your JS close this page....

Looks kinda cool Jestah. I hate chromeless windows though. They seem kinda buggy on my computer.

Nice idea though. Looks like a browser.

::sigh::
I've noticed that before too eyez. I can't quite figure out a good way to link anything using that chromeless window. No matter what I set the target to it seems to do the same thing.

What do you mean you can't find my navigation? Can you be more specific? I like dull colors. I'm a very gray and white or white and baige type of guy. I set up the text like that because I was afraid in different browsers at different resolutions it would hang off the page or something. I wasn't really sure how the chromeless window would react to be quite honest.

Like a browser? Can you be more specific Krets?

Heh.

I like the chromeless to an extent. Obviously it doesn't work in NN so whats the sense in doing an entire site with it. This site is only for fun so I chose to use it.

Chromeless window is a hack's hack.....take that as you may.

The grey is...grey. Nothing really to liven it up. Krets is right, looks like a browser, just with bad scrollers that clip at the wrong places, and simplistic icons with no colour scheme.

Removing the chromeless hack/jackoff might be a way to give it a much better functionality, but considering real navigation, how to size a scroller properly to clip right for the visible div (get a scrollbar or marker too), and a real colour scheme might be nice.

Oh yeah...and content.

Since it's king.

And any site is shite without it.

Like always DG, I value your input.

I don't know why most of you don't seem to like the chromeless window (other then it isn't widely supported) For a personal website not meant to be viewed by many people it suits its purpose and looks very cool. I really don't see why a color scheme of different shades of gray is any less of a color scheme then that of one with different shades of oranges and blues or anything else. Like I said before, I like the color scheme. It suits me well. I think the grays go well together.

I don't understand what you mean by a real navigation. It seems to be fairly easy to me. If you want to goto the Bio section you click the link clearly labeled bio and so forth. The only real part of the navigation which seems to be hard to see is the scrollers. Other then that it looks pretty understandable.

The sites been finished approx. 2 hours now. Thats why I don't have much content but I'll add it as I go along.

Thanks for the input, any more?

OK, if you're going to have a popup of any sort (and especially a chromeless), you need to make sure that any links outside of your site go back to the window that launched you! I use a bit like this...

if (popup.opener == null) {
popup.opener = window;
popup.opener.name = "popupOpener"; }

Use this in the function that launches the new window, now you can target any links followed back to the "popupOpener" window, much nicer in the long run. I dig the big links to the Asylum Ring, but they are *way* huge, folks are more likely to follow them than your internal navigation, best to rethink that.

The clipping on the text window is off.

Hrmm, grey, hmm. Yep yep, very grey. It may look like what browsers look like, but most browsers are kind of ugly IMHO. I'd be more interested in seeing a big enhancement to that interface, what *should* a really cool browser look like? Look like that instead. Maybe still grey, but *cooler* somehow.

Hmm, chromeless. I'm pretty sure I don't like chromeless windows. What I'm working on right now in ozonicLabs is a series of floating windows that appear on my launching window, and they can then be dragged around on the existing screen, how about that? You could probably get the same effect as the chromeless thing, but now you'd be living inside my existing windows, much nicer. (see www.ozonicLabs.com/windowTest/ to see what I'm doing here. Work in progress still.)

Your pal, -doc-

of course...grey goes with...grey.

It's not a colour "scheme" because it has no accents to it. You have unsaturated grey, in what..three tones?

No highlight, no real decent shadow, nothing transitory.

I appreciate using grey, I use it myelf, a lot. However, it requires fleshing out, or it will always look flat. That's all I can say.

For some GREAT colour theory, you folks should check out Stephen Van Doren's column "DigiSect" over at http://digital-web.com


Doc...love the window treatments at ozonic...very smooth work

Peter

you need some subtle mouseovers for your nav bar.
your news scroller only takes up half of the already limited space available.
your random button needs some work. It looks, umm.. jaggy, for lack of a better word.
your updates/content section is pretty plain and doesn't fit with top very well. Could use some sort of border or something.

On the other hand, I dig your windowblinds =]

Ok, many of th eobvious things have been mentioned, but I'll thow my 2cents in anyway -

1) chromeless window: yeah, looks nice, but the functionality of it is horrible, and the whole flickering screen thing is just a turn off.

2) grey: yep. grey. sure, I like grey...but as with anything else, all by itself without any sort of contrast (or, as DG said, nothing 'transitory'), it's just plain dull, boring and hard to look at.

3) layout: well.....it looks like a really cheap version of a browser......poorly layed out.
If you're going to do a browser theme, you choud clean up those icons, make them your main navigation rather than the asylum web ring navigation. for one thing, nobody has any idea where the hell you'er sending them or why when they click on those buttons......

also, I think the standard webring navigation should be used on a site that is part of a webring....kind of logical, no?

4) clipping/scrolling......been covered.....

5) *huge* space to the left wth the little list of updates.........I'd either eliminate that or find something to make it much more useful and attractive.

grey right?

Jestah, i think ya need a woman in your life.

a bit of passion, a dash of joy, and a whole lot of paaaaain.....

that would change the coloring right quickly...

(i love periods....)

Nobody's mentioned that you can right-click and select back to return from the ring.

Without looking at bugs etc. my gut reaction was Cool! I go for the grey's and musted colors myself and I really liked the way it poped up in the center without a chunky border.