Preserved Topic: Hmm, should this forum even exist? (Page 2 of 2)

but you don't *have* to sift thru them!


.....that's why threads have names....


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mmm, I thought thats what this thread was all about - trying to minimise overlap. Reading how HTML mixes with DHTML, JAVA, XML etc is of little value to someone who is still not fluent in basic HTML

~We're not here for long, we're here for fun~

...then don't read those threads....


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Anyway, the basic basics should be handled at the individual study level. If you need to know what tags you nest inside of a <table> tag, you don't browse the Asylum -- you look it up on w3schools or some similar site. The Asylum is a powerful resource, but it certainly doesn't need to be compartmentalized or broken down in the same way as a reference tool.

excactly, I mean, we're not here to spoon-feed you...
....asking a question is not a problem, but please don't come to us with questions a google search could have immediately yielded fruit for...

like PT said, this is a forum, not a reference tool.. the archives yes, not the active forums..

I still don't see the problem in dumping all of the client-side stuff in 'DHTML\Javascript'.... in F1_Error's words: Why do you insist on making things so complicated?

I advocate the creation of a 'Page Layout' forum, but some of this stuff is just superfluous...


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Point taken guys, I'm not trying to offend anyone here. the title for this particular forum is:

Stupid Basic HTML
Heh. We almost forget to discuss this aspect, it's easy to get lost in high-level abstractions, but this is core.

That is why I suggested a it would be a good idea to have a separate forum for HTML, after all as the title suggests it is core. I learned photoshop by reading the manual 3 times then moving onto another book. I did the same with Illustrator, freehand, Quark, fontographer, flash and am now on my second book for HTML. I would not dream of wasting anyones time here by asking lightweight questions

~We're not here for long, we're here for fun~

Yes, you guys are at a level so sophisticated that us HTML learners are left in the grass.
I said it at another forum: Calling it stupid is down right rude.

But I think that's why the Doc made it to a question, not something permanent.
I belive helping people from the very base is important.
It'll give OzoneAsylum a range from level 1 to maximum.
Is that a bad idea?

I think that there does need to be a place for this. Wherever it winds up being. I know I sometimes have a hard time slicing up images and getting them back together in HTML. It may be a Stupid question to some but for those that don't know it's not so stupid. As my guitar teacher once told me: "It's easy once you know how to do it"

Later,
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http://www.ozoneasylum.com/Forum2/HTML/001271.html http://www.ozoneasylum.com/Forum2/HTML/001243.html http://www.ozoneasylum.com/Forum2/HTML/001235.html

...three perfectly good straight-HTML threads that suffered no ills by being posted in 'DHTML\Javascript'. I don't mean to be rude but if you need to learn basic HTML tags I suggest you hit the following resources:
http://www.webreference.com
http://www.bignosebird.com
http://www.w3.org
http://www.hwg.org
http://www.htmlgoodies.com
http://www.htmlhelp.com

and last- but most certainly not least-
http://www.gurusnetwork.com

wanna know how you could have gotten these resources and many more? You *could* have tried a google search... or you *might* have tried hitting altavista...

...or how about posting a new topic in the DHTML/Javascript Forum? I'll bet you it would've caught fire as everyone chimed in with their priceless, can't-live-without, always-there-when-you-need-it, super-duper HTML reference/tutorial/all-out guide....

..again...no need to complicate this... it's fine as it is...

edit: even designsbymark teaches you how to manually slice images and do the table thing...


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[This message has been edited by Petskull (edited 01-23-2002).]

My point further on would be that asking about HTML in the XML - XSL - XSLT - XHTML - CSS - DOM forum would be an *excellent* way to be introduced/guided to XHTML solutions etc.
That way it'll all came natural.
(I've said this also at the XML - XSL - XSLT - XHTML - CSS - DOM forum.)



[This message has been edited by 99 (edited 01-24-2002).]

Petskull, You could say that about any subject. So, with a theory like that we shouldn't have DHTML/Javascript, Serverside Scripting, Photoshop or anything alse we could possibly find information about elsewhere on the internet. Which would be just about this whole forum really.

Petskull, thanks for the links, I have added them to my favourites. I have only been using the net for about 3 months so still finding my way around. I will certainly try the search engines first in future

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my point is not that you should go elsewhere, or even stop asking 'simple' questions, but that there is no point in creating a whole new forum for them...

for example, InI posted a message in the Ozone Forum (Here) asking for help with C and Perl... the thread caught fire in, what, two days?

...like I said before, there's really no need to change things around when they're fine as it is...



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[This message has been edited by Petskull (edited 01-26-2002).]

well, agreement again, petskull.

hey doc, what now? when will you remove this forum finally?