Preserved Topic: Weird things that science can't explain... (Page 2 of 2)

Yes bees do have wings but science has proven they are too small to allow the weight of the bee to fly and science has shown the brain activity is the same whether we are asleep or awake and that the body can recharge just as well from resting while awake.

~We're not here for long, we're here for fun~

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We sleep cause our brains need rest duhhh

edit: with the exception of some...

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hmmm, the brain never rests, even when asleep it still runs all the bodily functions and when dreaming its more active than when awake. now imagine what we could get done if we didn't need to sleep. . . . .

~We're not here for long, we're here for fun~

Not a whole lot. I find that a good rest allows me to get more done than when I try to do something nonstop. It seems our minds need that rest more than our bodies do. I've seen documentaries where they study sleep deprived people and the most ordinary and mundane tasks become impossible for them.

Lightning

I love that science has yet to comprehend the mechanics of it.

Regarding the function of sleep--

From the science perspective -
REM sleep is not present in all animals that have a brain and nervous system. There is a point at which it appears in the chain of progression from less complex to more complex creatures. I believe a type of anteater is the cutoff point where REM sleep begins... specificly, this organism is the most complex animal that does not utilize REM sleep. The interesting part is that the ratio of brain mass to body mass undergoes a change from Non-REM to REM animals. Basicly, with the addition of this type of sleep, brain mass is reduced. Apparently, REM sleep was a response to the need for more intelligence capacity while constrained by a limited brain size. Without it, and the speculated extra processing power that it allows, the our heads would likely be the largest parts of our body...

And from the philosophical/religious-

An interesting theory from a religious text I once read... Based somewhat on Jungian psychology, which favors a group subconscious, this author added a divine element. Every human contributes to the divine, though on a deeply subconscious level that almost always defies comprehension. Given that sleep deprivation invariably results in madness, and that as a person ages they are increasingly confronted with progressively deeper losses, this person speculated that perhaps in the deepest reaches of slumber, the mind has a tiny glimpse of the divine. This fleeting glimpse might serve as a reminder to the subconscious of the possibility for good, and be a source of continued sanity, as well as a source of the will to live.

Of course, it's only a theory. And one that I think science would have a difficult time proving.

Indeed...in my opinion, sleep and dreaming aren't used to recharge the body or mind, but to allow the brain to sort things out, and get it's gray matter organized for another day. Thast's why people's barins are more active when they're asleep, when you enter the REM cycle and start dreaming, the mind goes back over enverything it saw, head, tasted, smelled and touched during the preevious day, and sorts it out, categorizes it, and allows you more processing space for the next day.

As you go through the day, mountains of sensory data come into you mind, and it all collects uip in big piles, and takes up room, and until the shit shovelers of the mind can come in while you're sleeping and move it to where it's supposed to be. If you don't sleep, it continues to mount up until it clogs up the areas that control the output for even the basic functions, and you just can't think. If you leave it to long, the braijn starts sorting it while you're awake, and that's where sleep deprevation hallucinations come from.

That and the black pills

Anyhoo...that's my OPINION, I'm in no way say that it is right

Tend to agree with you there, I read somewhere that memories are transferred from short-time to long-time memory while we sleep.

Yeah we just finished studying sleep and dreams in psychology. GODDAMN IT IS INTERESTING!!!!

Basically our brain sorts out short term memorys into long term memory. It does this by dreaming. Dreams are a way of getting rid of useless memories. Why do you think we dont remember our dreams when we awake!? This is because the memory is no longer there. Sometimes our brain realizes that it needs that memory and so it quickly stops dreaming. This is when we do remember the dream.

When I was young, I slept in this back bedroom. One night my mattress lifted up and this bloody huge hand grabbed my right foot. It had really long fingernails. As I awoke, the hand pulled itself back under the mattress.
Hmmmmmm..........what else is there......thats happened.
I saw this plane or something in the sky one night and I saw some some of light hit it and bounce off, dont know whether it is was bird or not, have no idea.
I was Church one Sunday and looked up and I swear I saw like a bit of cloud swirling around the altar and saw like the tip of God's toe, Im pretty sure it was his foot I saw!
I saw like these 5 or 6 lights all travelling in a distinct pattern across the sky. It was REALLY WEIRD.
Yeah I do to hear the TV thing and that. What I reckon is weird is that how deja vu occurs. I had it yesterday and it was really freaky.
What causes deja vu?
What causes crop circles?
Why do we only occassionally see ghosts and not all the time and why do we not see them in public places like shopping centre. Does this infer that ghosts are scared of the living? If ghosts have been seen to go through walls and that sort of thing them how are they able to pick things up like poltergeists for instance?
Why do men love breasts so much?
What is the purpose behind the g-string?
Why does ball lightning occur?

Talking of sneezing, I heard the other day that you when you do you actually have a minor orgasm.
*wonders off to the kitchen cupboard and grabs the pepper*

-=Luxo Jr.=-

Doin' wierdassed animations since 1986

Oh, i didnt notice someone making me a question....

answer: No, i meant it just like that, literally. not that it's just a matter of perception to that sentence, but it.... could start there.

Ball lightning is (supposedly) a phenomenon caused by the superheating of air until it becomes plasma, that plasma is them encased by the sreally strong magnetic field of the lightining bolt that caused it...but that's justo ne of the theories.

Also supposedly, crop circles are supposed to be caused by an invisible kind of tornado, which touches down in certian areas. The massive pressire of it is what causes the 'crop' to bend and break, the circular rotation is what lines them all up in a particular direction, and hte burning is caused by air friction.

supposedly

Skaarjj: An awful lot of crop circles are made by human beings (particulalrily damning are the cases that were declared to be genuine and unreproducible by humans which were then shown to be made confortably in one night by a few people, some planks and a bit of board or a cheap lawn rollwe!!). Although the plasma/tornado theory is one put forward by a few cerealogists it doesn't have much credence even in their ranks (which seems balanced between human and ET influences) - ranking, as an explanation, just above the hedgehog theory. I believe there was a video produced which seemed to show some kind of plasma effect although I'm not sure how that currently stands.

I still think ball lightening has some interesting aspects which we still are far from understanding and massive ice falls (or, lets be honest, many of the rains of objects) still can't be comfortably fitted into current theories.

Emps

Hmmmm........interesting how those supposed invisibe tornadoes create some of the most astounding patterns and layouts?........strange too they only happen in certain places, like Britain and that. And not much anywhere else

-=Luxo Jr.=-

Doin' wierdassed animations since 1986

I was thinking about this topic this morning and wondered if science can explain why we get sick? We know how a virus attacks our system but can we explain why some people get sick and others don't? You can take a room full of people and expose them all to ebola for instance and it kills 80% (i think that's the rate) but what about the 20%??? What makes them immune?

If you're tlaking aobut the desert patterns that they have somewhere, like the gigantic humanoid figure that they have somewhere in america or something (or is it africa? I dunno), that is in no way supposedly related to crop ciles, and if you are also talking aobut that galaxy pattern, that was proven to be man made.

Oh, and to they're only happening in certain places, cna we say the words differnet climatic conditions boys and lamps? It' slike saying, 'oh...why don't we get tsumanis in the middle of Lake Eyre', or 'Why don't we get cyclones in Victoria', becuase the weather considtions are just right in those areas to create the large swirling column of air, but not have a big enough updraft to suck things up, and draw cloud down to create the visdible funnel effect.

A lot of this sort of thing has to do with chaos theory.
The basics of the theory (and there is no way I am going to do this justice):
Everything could be accurately predicted by science...even a coin flip...if one had enough information.
The problem is, there is so much information no human (and currently no computer) can process all of it. So, an element of 'chaos' appears. That is, we can't describe it in any other way so we call it chaos.
Like the 'random' number generator of JS...chaotic. Not truly random (as there is a very predictable algorithm), but to those who don't know the algorithm, it is indeed chaotic. Same with most of these 'random' things in life. There is an algoithm, it is just so complex we can't figure it out.

In the case of illnesses there are several factors:
strength of immune system
strength of the particular virii that infect a particular person
...and probably 15 million other factors that a biologist doesn't even know about. Indeed, the very nature of studing something often changes its characteristics and responses. If we did know it all, we could predict who would get sick and who wouldn't...or the result of a particular coin toss...or even our own moods. Instead we just use statistics.

Chaos theory is really neat stuff...at least as far as I've read about it (very little.)
google search = chaos theory

mobrul

Mike Myers. Now that is something science can't explain.

No seriously. He is just so completely weird. He makes Eddie Murphy and Chris Tucker look normal.

"...And let it be known that all men are created equal, although some men are created more equally than others."
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But seriously, if you want something science can't explain, I'm it. There's absolutely no explanation for me. That is all.

"...And let it be known that all men are created equal, although some men are created more equally than others."
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Evolution is an observable phenomenon (sp?). Get a bacterian and a big microscope. Watch it assexually reproduce for a while. After a while not all of the bacteria will have the same DNA even though they came from the same great great grandparent. Point mutations occur in the DNA. (read: sometimes mother nature screws up mitosis) and the bacteria start to become a little diverse. Now introduce a virus that is lethal to the bacteria. If one of the bacteria has a mutation that makes it resistant to the virus and the rest don't the ones with the mutation will be the only to survive. Thats all evolution is: Change. A lot of people assumesevolution is against creationism and that just wrong. But anywho, my point is Evolution is observable and explainable by science.

Sleep on the other hand I don't think they've explained yet, but I don't keep up this stuff that much.

Schitzo

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Nevarr: Couldn't REM sleep be a side effect of more effecient brain wiring instead of the cause of it?

Schitzo

One night I drempt that we ran over Kermit the frog with a car, and killed him, all this hair gushed out of his body. I was a big fan of the muppets so I woke up crying (I was 12 by the way). The wierd thing was that the next day I heard on the news that Jim Henson had died. That was among the strangest experinces of my life.




Maskkkk

- Face the Present

Those are the kind of coincidences that really make one wonder. Hmm... poor Kermie.

Science, REM, crop circles, life - it's all someone else's imagination, and no one is the wiser! Wait until "someone" wakes up and everything ceases to exist.

Yep, actually you're all in my imagination. So for your own sakes keep them meds coming and keep me sedated!





What does it mean?

One of the QI_GONG practicer had ever used only one of his finger to upside-down.
Can you believe it ?

i love beatles

Ah, you mean the standing upside on your fingers. I thought I heard that no living practitioner had mastered the one-finger technique yet. I could be wrong, though. Or is this something that has happened recently?

There's a lot of weird stuff here in Korea, too, like people climbing up ladders made of knives--with bare feet, of course.





What does it mean?

Uhhh...sorta like a cheese grater if you slip...ouch! Well, I've seen someone chop stones with just his bare hand...and I don't mean bricks....real stones, about the size of ones fist...and they even showed it in slow motion...I don't think that has been explained by modern science yet...

Great. You had to go and mention slipping on the knife ladder. Now I've got these truly horrific images in my mind, and they're not going away!

When it comes to those who harness the power of "ki" (The "qi" that vanvanta mentioned above), there's a whole bunch of crazy stuff that they can do. I imagine breaking stones would be one of them. Thinking about that sort of stuff hurts my brain.





What does it mean?

Science can't explain why I look so sexy.


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suho1004:I heard that one monk who is name is haideng can do this by his 2 fingers
.I cant imagine it and doubt it .but some said it was true.

i love beatles

I heard the same thing. With all the weird stuff I've seen, though, I can't dismiss it as fiction. I wouldn't be surprised if it were true.





What does it mean?

Being able to hear electrical devices has been explained by science - its called the Frey Effect and its study is called electrophonics. Electromagnetic radiation heats up your skull and causes little explosions which you can hear (it might also explain Wakkos) see:
www.google.com/search?q=%22frey+effect%22
http://users.hunterlink.net.au/~ddcsk/gelphonx.htm

Emps

I'm not a big believer in the metaphysical, more
of "seeing is believing" type of guy, but there
are exceptions, for example, i truly think that
we reincarnate, yeah, reincarnation is for real.
in fact, just the other day I saw a little old lady
turn into a driveway.