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Iron Wallaby
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: USA
Insane since: May 2004

posted posted 07-12-2004 19:03

Well, I finally got myself adjusted to using sloppy focus in Linux, and it's made me quite a good deal more productive. Now that I have to go back to using Windows, I keep typing things in the wrong windows since I am quite used to using sloppy focus now.

Are there any tools for Windows XP that provide sloppy focus instead of click-to-focus?

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." -- Arthur C. Clarke
"Any sufficiently arcane magic is indistinguishable from technology." -- P. David Lebling

Iron Wallaby
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: USA
Insane since: May 2004

posted posted 07-12-2004 19:12

Aha, nevermind.

I downloaded TweakUI, and it has just the setting I wanted (X-Mouse). Sorry for cluttering things up, but maybe other Linux users forced to use Windows can benefeit from what I found.

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." -- Arthur C. Clarke
"Any sufficiently arcane magic is indistinguishable from technology." -- P. David Lebling

Rinswind 2th
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Den Haag: The Royal Residence
Insane since: Jul 2000

posted posted 07-12-2004 20:25

What the hell are you rambling about ??

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Tao
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: The Pool Of Life
Insane since: Nov 2003

posted posted 07-13-2004 00:39

I have a wiggly thing sticking out of my head

:::tao::: ::cell::
[ed] spellingg[/ed]

(Edited by Tao on 07-13-2004 00:41)

synax
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Cell 666
Insane since: Mar 2002

posted posted 07-13-2004 02:20
quote:
Sloppy focus
With this focus model, moving the mouse cursor over a window gives the window the input focus. Moving the mouse cursor from a window into the root window does not change the input focus. The input focus may be changed in other ways as well (such as alt-tab), so it is not always true that the input focus is the window under the mouse cursor. Moving the mouse cursor on top of a window does not necessarily raise the window.



Source: http://people.cs.uchicago.edu/~ahiorean/ahwm/sloppy-focus.html

"Nothin' like a pro-stabbin' from a pro." -Weadah

(Edited by synax on 07-13-2004 02:21)

Iron Wallaby
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: USA
Insane since: May 2004

posted posted 07-13-2004 05:09

Normally, on MacOS and Windows, to give focus to a window, you have to click on it. When you click on a window, it is raised to the front and you can type in it or whatever.

In Linux/Unix/BSD, things are far more customizable, and one of the more popular options is "sloppy focus". Instead of clicking on the window you want, you just move your mouse over it. For some styles, it's much faster (especially if you maximize your screen real-estate). If you like to maximize the current window all the time, the style really doesn't work.

I find that for things that involve typing, which is most of what I do when I'm on a computer (coding, chatting, toying, writing) I find it is much more efficient for doing things simulataneously. You can even type on background windows. It's just great!

And when you get used to it, you'll wonder what the heck you were thinking with click-to-focus.

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." -- Arthur C. Clarke
"Any sufficiently arcane magic is indistinguishable from technology." -- P. David Lebling

Tao
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: The Pool Of Life
Insane since: Nov 2003

posted posted 07-13-2004 12:42

Thanks Iron Wallaby I have not heard of that before, I don't think I'll ever use it but it is interesting all the same.

:::tao::: ::cell::

Blaise
Nervous Wreck (II) Inmate

From: London
Insane since: Jun 2003

posted posted 07-13-2004 17:06

Iron Wallapby, I think you might find that TXMouse hass a more complete feature list compared to the x-mouse version from Tweak XP.

I've not used it's functionality much before but it's pretty niffty stuff, tell us what you think if you give it a try.

Iron Wallaby
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: USA
Insane since: May 2004

posted posted 07-14-2004 13:56

Tried it, and I am impressed. It works far better than TweakUI's X-Mouse.

If there are any proponents of Sloppy Focus, I suggest that you check it out, it mimics the functionality excellently.

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." -- Arthur C. Clarke
"Any sufficiently arcane magic is indistinguishable from technology." -- P. David Lebling

metahuman
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From:
Insane since: Aug 2003

posted posted 07-14-2004 15:05

AVG Resident Shield reported:

quote:
Warning: Hidden extension.exe

is found in file
F:\TXMouse.zip.exe


I'm not certain what that actually means. EDIT: Actually, it just means... "WARNING! That file has two extensions! Be careful!"

(Edited by metahuman on 07-14-2004 15:06)

metahuman
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From:
Insane since: Aug 2003

posted posted 07-14-2004 15:08

Sloppy focus with TXMouse doesn't seem to work with mIRC.

ninmonkeys
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From:
Insane since: May 2004

posted posted 07-14-2004 15:21

Do you know of any utility that uses fluxbox's (alt/ctrl)+MouseRightClickDrag to move/resise windows?

NoJive
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: The Land of one Headlight on.
Insane since: May 2001

posted posted 07-14-2004 15:54
quote:
Tweaking the Tweaker

Some applications have certain semantics for click-and-drag events and interfering with them the way TXMouse does might have undesirable effects, graphic editors being obvious notable example.



Just below ^ are the registry tweaks. For me this means quite a few graphx programs. If anyone tries this let me know please. Also I couldn't see a work around for a double click which I have assigned to the wheel button.

But as far as copying text between windows ...slick as hell.

CPrompt
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: there...no..there.....
Insane since: May 2001

posted posted 07-14-2004 23:03
quote:
Blaise said:

Iron Wallapby, I think you might find that TXMouse hass a more complete feature list compared to the x-mouse version from Tweak XP.

I've not used it's functionality much before but it's pretty niffty stuff, tell us what you think if you give it a try.




well, i tried it. AVG said there was a virus in the file but fixed it. deleted it...and still the sloppy focus persists.
i don't think i liked that program

Later,

C:\


~Binary is best~

ninmonkeys
Nervous Wreck (II) Inmate

From:
Insane since: May 2004

posted posted 07-14-2004 23:06

Just rename it to file.exe and then scan it. It comes up clean.

I think its so if people have extensions hidden, a virus could be virus.zip.exe, and they go "oh its a zip, I'll open it", and then they get a virus.

ninmonkeys
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From:
Insane since: May 2004

posted posted 07-15-2004 03:41

I tried to edit my post, but, it said it was too old. I think using my time zone, it hasn't been 24 hours since I posted...

I think the only way to turn it off for at least XP is to reboot. The process is not running but the sloppy focus is there for me too.

InI
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Somewhere over the rainbow
Insane since: Mar 2001

posted posted 07-15-2004 04:13

The poster has demanded we remove all his contributions, less he takes legal action.
We have done so.
Now Tyberius Prime expects him to start complaining that we removed his 'free speech' since this message will replace all of his posts, past and future.
Don't follow his example - seek real life help first.

Iron Wallaby
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: USA
Insane since: May 2004

posted posted 07-15-2004 04:40

MacOS has always been my favorite operating system.

Too bad it doesn't run on my computer. Linux is the next best thing.

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." -- Arthur C. Clarke
"Any sufficiently arcane magic is indistinguishable from technology." -- P. David Lebling

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