Topic awaiting preservation: Black Hat's NEW SIG! Ya Heard!?!? (Page 1 of 2)

Well, here's the new signature I said I was going to be creating. See, I didn't lie! Now will you guys get off my back?

WebShaman - I said I would didn't I?

eyezaer - You said and I quote: "You don't want to change it because, well... you don't care what they have to say."

Actually I did

-----------------------------------------------
TiNNoS || My Forums || My Gallery



(Edited by Black Hat on 10-09-2004 05:20)

If you want to call it a sig, ok I guess.

_____________________

le coeur du feu
Qui sème le vent récolte la tempête!

Bah - Can't I do anything right?

-----------------------------------------------
TiNNoS || My Forums || My Gallery

like post this in the Big Sigs area?

I posted it here because everyone was bitching about my signature so I changed it and wanted to see what they said, ya know? Figured this was an OK place. If not, please feel free to move it to the correct forum

-----------------------------------------------
TiNNoS || My Forums || My Gallery

A sig is generally something that has your name and shows something about yourself to the rest of the forum world. What your two choices of sigs tell me is that you are a young male who likes looking at almost naked women because that's what is available to you. I don't know if that assessment is true, because I don't know you. It's a judgement based on what I have seen and observed of your presentation here on the Asylum.

Just from my observations, I can tell you haven't observed. Every forum community has a sense of collective self. Usually when you join a new forum, it makes sense to take some time and figure out how things are done there, and what the written and unwritten rules are. Every place has them. There are some gaming forums where all I do it read, and rarely respond. There are a few where I respond regularly, and in a manner that I would never consider posting anywhere else (blue language and attitudes for example).

I'm not saying that what you are doing is completely wrong, don't think that. But I tend to think of a bull charging around a china shop for you. You're not showing any signs of netiquette understanding here. The sigs are a big thing here; I registered last December, but it took me until this past August to finally make myself a sig. And I know many people have them, most have multiples and a few have none or just test sigs. But they all follow a pattern, namely that it is your own work when it's a graphical sig. Just a reading of the "BIG SIG" forum could have told you that much.

Besides, free world or not (not that this really applies to the Asylum, it's a private run forum), I don't wish to look at borderline soft porn, animated or not. I don't want to look at mostly naked women posed as in your sig. If I wanted to see that, I'd go to forums dedicated to that. I'm here because this is an excellent graphics forum for getting advice and learning. And nudity in and of itself doesn't bother me, but when it's tied up in sex gratuitously, then it's not what I feel like looking at. I'd be happy if there were an option to hide all sigs, then this wouldn't be that much an issue, and you could get your rocks off looking at your sig all you like without concerning me.

_____________________

le coeur du feu
Qui sème le vent récolte la tempête!

Well give me a break man - I am not good with the whole photoshop thing yet. Your points are duely noted and Im sorry you're offended by my signature.

-----------------------------------------------
TiNNoS || My Forums || My Gallery

Signatures don't need to have your name, or anything about you. They just need to be consistent, and they will do just as good a job as marking a post as yours - which is the point of a signature image in the first place.

I think the new sig looks great, personally.

Thanks Dan

-----------------------------------------------
TiNNoS || My Forums || My Gallery

1 : I didn't say I was offended. I said I didn't want to look at it on the forums. It's my opinion though, nothing more.

2 : Dan, you are correct. So in that case, mostly naked women is Black Hats thing. At least he's consistant then. The typical forum sig has a name though.

3 : For someone new to Photoshop, you do pretty damn good with it.

4 : I'm not a man.

5 : YMMV, JMO.

_____________________

le coeur du feu
Qui sème le vent récolte la tempête!

quote:

---

RhyssaFireheart said:

1 : I didn't say I was offended. I said I didn't want to look at it on the forums. It's my opinion though, nothing more.

2 : Dan, you are correct. So in that case, mostly naked women is Black Hats thing. At least he's consistant then. The typical forum sig has a name though.

3 : For someone new to Photoshop, you do pretty damn good with it.

4 : I'm not a man.

5 : YMMV, JMO.

_____________________

le coeur du feu
Qui sème le vent récolte la tempête!

---

Tutorials my friend, Tutorials. They teach lots.

-----------------------------------------------
TiNNoS || My Forums || My Gallery

IMHO, a sig must have the name of the person, just like a sig in normal life. Otherwise that's just a picture. I fully agree with RhyssaFireheart. BTW, if 2 pictures are not enough you should have a look at his gallery. Nudity or partial nudity in itself doesn't bother me, but gratuitous soft porn is not the kind of thing that was on Asylum, and I expect it'll remain the case. Actually that, and the fact that the inmates generally do their sigs ( and do not use a picture and apply 2 or 3 filters on it, like we see on other forums ) are some of the little things that make the Asylum so special.

You don't need amazing PhotoShop skills to do a nice and creative sig.

Well least I actually had a hand in making this one. Yes, I used a picture in the background. Least I actually did SOMETHING this time. It's better than what I had before yes? Jeez, I try. Give me a damn'd break people! In time once I learn how to do the shapes and stuff using the tools - Ill create a very unique signature. Give me a break. I cant seem to do anything right!

-----------------------------------------------
TiNNoS || My Forums || My Gallery

Hey there,

While I will stay away from content issues I do think the sig is a little box-ish... I would suggest breaking that up somehow. Here is something I did to show you one way to maybe do this. I really really really rushed this as I didn't have a lot of time and it is not my sig but just as an example...



Or something like that only much better...

Just some initial thoughts...

Peace,

How did you do that? Please explain

-----------------------------------------------
TiNNoS || My Forums || My Gallery

Here are Black Hat's guidelines for signatures in his own forum

quote:

---

We believe in creating our own signatures here so please do not steal/rip other peoples signatures. This is frowned upon.
*Images in signatures should be no greater than the following dimensions: 80x200

---

you can see the guidelines here.
I posted this elsewhere too, but in the hope of getting my point across I thought I'd post it here too.
As for asking Jung to explain how he did ^that^ (and I'm sure Jung is more than willing to help you). Just use you eyes Black Hat, what do you see? Some square gaps in the photograph you used (not your own work btw).
Most, if not all, people here are willing to help, but you have to put the effort in yourself.
All you have done so far is use other peoples images or animated gif's, neither of which I like. I'm sure you mean well Black Hat, and have the best intentions. Let's see some of your own work in signature making. Forums and communities work best when they are working together.

:::tao::: ::cell::

.GIFs support using one of its colors, as a transparent color. In photoshop, its simple , just erase bits to reveal the transparency grid (white & grey boxes). You can't do this with the background layer shown. Do a search for it in the FAQ, mahjqa the sig expert around here has posted some damn handy gems, one piece is an image showing how to do it and select the right color in Imageready, which is slightly hidden at first glance. GIFs only support one color as pure transparent, no fades so you need a mattle color that looks good on either bg color here. Basically half way between one and the other. You'll find the settings you need in "Save for web" (PS5.5 and above) CTRL+SHIFT+ALT+S.

Could you post a link to your old sig ? Im curious as to what all the anger is about.

Should mention in other forums sigs are a lot less strick, most people cut out an image of their favourite cartoon character or similar and bang a sig, this is fine. But this is a forum for graphic/design/code creaters. And on that note. NEVER use the lens flare filter. you'll lose all respect

see IXI's disgraceful post in the PS forum. You may see why people get pissed at whats done regardless of your good intentions etc..

You could make a sig with a black hat of somesort, get creative.

Ah yes, the FAQ. Wonderful thing, that.

A link to a page with some rules of thumb regarding sigs (they're not rules. They're more like guidelines. However, reading them doesn't hurt.)

If you want to save a transparent image for the web, there's some things you need to take care of:

a) make sure that the parts that should be transparent in your image *are* transparent (the checkerboard pattern of photoshop should show through
b) go to save for web. As Hugh already said, either press CTRL+SHIFT+ALT+S or click file>save for web
c) click the thing where it says 'matte color". Fill in the color 2B0404. (this way, photoshop knows which background it's going to be used on.)
d) save.
e) if anything is unclear, ask again.

You know, I think it's funny that you are all giving Black Hat such a hard time for his sigs. For the longest time one of our most esteemed members had a sig with a photo of Laetitia Casta and no one ever said a thing. Maybe that was because she was a woman and some of you are double standard having whiners.

Moreover, there is absolutely no reason that a sig must have your name in it. DL has several sigs that don't have his name on them but we all know exactly whose sigs they are when we see them because he uses them consistently. Mahjqa and Weadah have their name in most of their sigs but most of the time it's not easily readable. But everyone knows a Mahjqa or Weadah sig because of the quality.

Some of you people need to seriously loosen up; there are far more important issues in this world to worry about than a sig with a partially clothed yet tasteful image of a woman. Go get some Valium and a high colonic or something.

:::11oh1:::

I agree with krets, just like mahjqa said, "they're not rules. They're more like guidelines." It is o.k. to say you don't like his sig, but all this rudeness towards him isn't going to help anyone. And I'm not talking about the people on this thread that are being constructively critical, but the others, who can't wait to get the noose around BH's neck.

I'll at least give you some credit for making the effort black hat.

This newer sig is certainly not something I would call a good sig, for many of the reasons mentioned above, but it's a start.

Krets - I'm not sure who you're referring to, but only one female with a photo of a female in her sig comes to mind...and that was a shot of her face, with PS work done in addition to the photo, and was very tasteful (in fact, most people jsut assumed it was a photo of ehrself...).

An almost naked fluzy with her ass propped up in the air, on the other hand, is not something I would call "tasteful"

FWIW

(oh - and no, the argument is very old, but a name is *not* in any way necessary for a sig. If it was...........then hell, there'd be no point because your name is already attached to the left side of every post you make....

Thanks Blackhat, now I can't come here during school (Y)

-----------------------------------------------------
funny websites | funny signatures | funny jokes

Ozone Asylum KILLED my inner child.

Heh.

Dl-44, I believe he was refering to none other than Mr. Max. He had his on a sig rotator so it only came up now and then, and if ye didnt like it ye could simply reload yon page.

Now, as for a name, Yeah, that is where they started. Names. It is in no way manditory. I used to think it was but, that is just silly.

BH, yah, you did listen to them. Kind of. You made your own, props for that. It still is an almost naked woman though, and that was half of the reason people didnt like it.

One of the reasons is that it is considered soft porn.

My college has a no-porn-what-so-ever policy and I would not want your sig to crop up there. Another is work. I could not get away with looking at that were I work. Period. Thirdly, I don't want to look at it. Oh, and minors should beable to surf here with out being forced to look at that.

We were simply asking you to be considerate of others.



(Edited by eyezaer on 10-11-2004 01:02)

izzay - mr. max was my first thought, but krets said it was a woman who had the sig (unless I misunderstand...).

~shrug~ nothing to add....

Mr. Max had one yes, but Shi also had a sig with a photo of Laetitia Casta. I know because I used to host it.

:::11oh1:::

oh, i see that he did. I don't know then.

duh

i find the picture itself not so offensive compared to what most 3-year olds see on television every day

the words are a bit distasteful in context.
maybe you could replace them with your name there, Mr. Hat. (?)

i seem to remember an inmate named Wakkos parading his semi-pornographic sigs around the asylum... or is my pill-suppressed memory just a bit fuzzy atm..?

all i know is never in my LIFE have i seen so much fuss over a sig ... *sigh* BH at least u've got one =)

[insert fabulous sig here]

Wakkos' sigs were far more acceptable than his penchant for streaking.



:::11oh1:::

quote:

---

i find the picture itself not so offensive compared to what most 3-year olds see on television every day

---

True, I can't stand where I'm sitting there watching something then suddenly a giant (I have a 54 inch bigscreen) baby's ass is presented before my eyes. It's almost as bad as when you're watching Dinner and a Movie on TBS Superstation and are like "Hey that looks good--too bad I'm too lazy to make it" then suddenly a woman pops up on the screen (with the increased volume commercials have) saying "living with genital herpes..."

-----------------------------------------------------
funny websites | funny signatures | funny jokes

Ozone Asylum KILLED my inner child.

quote:

---

i find the picture itself not so offensive compared to what most 3-year olds see on television every day

---

That sounds like a personal issue, involving the parent's choices of what is is suitable television for their children.

Bear in mind I am not the slightest bit offened. I simply think it shows poor judgement, and a very immature mentality to identify yourself in such a manner.

Krets - shi is who I had in mind. is there a sig I missed, or are you referring to the one of her head with a hat on......? If so, I fail to see even the slightest comparison.....

Wasn't there two Shi sigs, with a hat on her head? One was faded, in B&W, with a baseball Cap, I believe, and the other was with that net before the face, right?

WebShaman | Asylum D & D | D & D Min Page

quote:

---

Hugh said:

see IXI's disgraceful post in the PS forum. You may see why people get pissed at
whats done regardless of your good intentions etc..

---

I admit I have made quite a few mistakes, but at least I take my criticisms well

BH, I don't mind your sig, but then again, I'm a 19 year old guy...




...Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most (ozzy osbourne)

Shi also had a sig with the famous model Laetitia Casta dressed fairly skimpily. I used to have it on my webserver but I don't think I have it anymore.

:::11oh1:::

Didn't Wakky have a Laetitia Casta sig?

WebShaman | Asylum D & D | D & D Min Page

wakkos is shi.



...or is shi wakkos? i can't remember.



reitsma

(Edited by reitsma on 10-14-2004 02:51)

no no no. Jenny is Wakkos.

That's right, and Skaarjj is... no, wait... Skaarjj is Skaarjj, but *Webshaman* is really...uhh.. Letitia Casta?

no no, Webshaman is ray liotta!

^Hehe...wow, someone even remembers that!

WebShaman | Asylum D & D | D & D Min Page