Far out! Installed ubuntu 7.04 updated it used the restricted drivers manager to install a driver for NVidia and things are looking good. Got wobbly windows if I want it and Beryl too. ~tentative sigh of relief~
If I could get all these working in kubuntu as easily as I have here I think I would have stuck with that. I do like the ubuntu interface too though.
Now the big one is to get my sounds working I don't really know how to do that yet so I'll go to ABIT and check their site, I'm sure I've seen drivers for Linux there.
I have found a driver on the RealTec site that I think may solve my sound problems, but I'm too scared to attempt it
I have just started getting the OS running a little better but I don't want to freeze up the whole shebang by installing the wrong thing or wreck my settings.
I have unzipped the "audio pack" and there is an installer that comes with it but I'm guessing that I perhaps should install it using something in ubuntu. You know that console thingy like the dos prompt. Or perhaps "add/remove progs"?
here is the advice in the text file that came with it.
Sorry for the large cut and paste.
quote:
The source code copy from www.alsa-project.org. ver:3.3-4
Linux Source Code for ALC audio codec
Support Codec list:
====AC97 Codec=====
ALC100,100P
ALC200,200P
ALC650D
ALC650E
ALC650F
ALC650
ALC655
ALC653
ALC658
ALC658D
ALC850
ALC101
ALC202
ALC250
ALC203
Copy and paste this to the bottom of your /etc/modules.conf or /etc/modprobe.conf file.
# ALSA portion
alias char-major-116 snd
alias snd-card-0 snd-xxxx
# OSS/Free portion
alias char-major-14 soundcore
alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0
# card #1
alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss
Step 5. reboot your machine
Step 6. Use the alsamixer the disable mute (All audio line default is mute)
*Must to compile and to install the ALSA library and utility. (Use automatic install is already install)
excute alsamixer
Note: 1. The most detail information, can refer the alsa-kernel/Documenttation/ALSA-Configuration.txt in the azx-021705.tar.bz2.
2. Kernel Version must be 2.2.14 or later.
3. All mixer channels are muted by default. You must use a native
or OSS mixer program to unmute appropriate channels.
4. If can not compile the source code, try to rename the /usr/src/linux-2.x -> /usr/src/linux.
5. The driver added to support the SPDIF functoin.
6. a. You can download the alsa-lib-1.0.9 and alsa-utils-1.0.9a form the www.alsa-project.org, then unzip and install them.
b. Suggest use "alsamixer" to control mixer function.
c. Used "alsaconf" can autodetect which drive you need to install (step 4).
7. SUSE Distribution must install the ncurses package.
Sorry Tao, I was so busy with the other life, the one where I am flesh and bones.
Back to bytes, I don't have enough time right now to read through all your questions (or play worms for that matter),
but a "Windows box" is something like Wine, which you will find from your system settings.
Eg. it is a sort of "Windows emulator (Linux addicts, don't lash out at me, I KNOW it's not an emulator).
Turn wine on from your system settings, and if you have access to your windows partitions, you can use the "wine file" utility to go pick photoshop and start it.
It may be slow, I think Pet put up a "fine tuning" guide based on the commercial version of Wine.
My life online may be sporadic, but I'll try to drop by this weekend and READ and HELP some more.
Thanks for that argo navis I need all the help I can get at the moment
My system crashed again because I did something (don't know exactly what) while trying to configure my NVidia settings. I have now just finished a complete re-install and am starting again.
One of the best things I have learned today is that one uses the terminal window while in the folder where the zipped file is. Gosh I wish I had known that three weeks ago.
The learning (and stumbling) curve has been rather steep at times but I'm completely delighted to say I have my sounds working. it took a little bit of work in the terminal window, which reminds me a lot of working in DOS, but it is up and running
Tomorrow I'm going to try to get Photoshop working with Wine. I've been so preoccupied with getting my sounds to work that i have not my head around this method yet. I've just booted up XP.
I've also installed an nVidia driver with "ENVY" so my screen's not flickering at all and I have Beryl installed but I don't have it running all the time.
I'm boppin' 'round the computer while I'm typing this listening to the Stones "let it bleed"
Can you feel the smiles?
Hey, coolness : congrats Ubuntao. Now you can start with apps, and other media codecs, and so on and so forth. Seems I am too late to help much,
yet on time to welcome you in the world of Oo-boon-too.
Here's a thought, I have an old Dell Latitude C600 and I'm thinking of installing some flavour of Linux on it. It has a 20 gig HD, 751 MHz Pentium 3 processor and 256 MB of RAM.
I have tried to run ubuntu 7.04 Live disk but it seems to hang when loading. It takes a good half hour go get to the stage were there are icons on the desktop, then freezes.
I am also searching the net myself for information but I thought I'd ask here too.
Well y'all did get me started on this road
Those who look for monsters should look to it that
they do not become monsters. For when you gaze
long into the abyss, the abyss also gazes into you.
The only thing stopping me from using DSL just now is I can't seem to find an option in the boot menu to boot from USB (USBHDD) or something like that. I'm just looking for a tool to burn it to USB with, I had one knocking around but not on the laptop it seems.
I bet there is a link to it in this thread. ~runs off to check~
I have an old Dell Latitude C600 and I'm thinking of installing some flavour of Linux on it. It has a 20 gig HD, 751 MHz Pentium 3 processor and 256 MB of RAM.
The answer to that partially depends on what you want to do with the machine. There are several Linuxen that will fit on a floppy and run on older machines. However, you probably won't get a GUI with them.
I've been using Brazi Firewall as a firewall/gateway for our InterNET access for several years.
I do not have a floppy drive on the laptop atm unfortunately hyperbole. I fairly certain that the bios does not support a USB boot. I am however still looking to install linux on it so I'm still checking the numerous releases.
I'd be using it to browse the net, to view and classify photographs in JPEG and RAW format and listen to music.
I will also need something like Open Office.
There really is a lot out there to choose from it seems. http://www.linux.org/dist/
About two months ago, I was trying to do the same thing. Bobbins has a laptop with 256Mb with a 10GB drive and CD-ROM drive. I tried loading a couple of different releases (SuSE and Ubuntu) before Bobbins ran out of patience and installed Win2000. The problem with the machine is that in the last five years Linuxen GUIs have started using so much memory they consider machines with "only" 256MB too small. From what I can tell there is no way to run OpenOffice to run on a machine with less than about 500MB.
Of course, there are others here that have more experience installing various releases of Linux than I do. If so, I hope they can make a suggestion to get a GUI-Linux running on that machine.
From: 127 Halcyon Road, Marenia, Atlantis Insane since: Aug 2000
posted 09-29-2007 19:44
Don't run OpenOffice on light machines!!!! Use Abiword, gNumeric, and let me know it you find any light 'Powerpoint' program. Also, try 'IceWM' for a window manager.
If you're building for a light machine, consider building your own Linux from Scratch. All the pieces work together famously and you can keep the system light.
Look around the net for 'Running linux on 1MB Ram' and such, and you'll probably find articles with people getting their systems to speed on low gear...
Sorry for not replying sooner but I'm rather strapped for time at the moment, busy time of the year in gardens for me.
As it happens I managed to format the drive in the laptop while I was trying to install Xubuntu. The install did not work as i was presented with an outrageously obscure text install screen, I was using the "alt" install disk. After the install failed due to the screen not displaying properly. I re-tried Ubuntu and it worked.
So now I have Feisty Fawn on my laptop. It's not the best installation though, the CD-ROM will not mount and the system is slightly sluggish, but it works and I'm happy for that (for now). I can listen to music, review RAW photos, and get connected with wireless or cable.
I plan to try to install Xubuntu again, I may wait until the new release later this month. This time I'll try the "regular" install method, the one with a usable GUI.
Meanwhile on my AMD system I still have XP Pro on one HD and Ubuntu on the other. This works well for me, I use Ubuntu for as much as possible to get used to it, and XP for things like Photoshop which I still have not got working in Ubuntu.
I haven't read all those links yet Petskull and C:\ but I will upon my return to a more leisurely lifestyle in a week or two
Those who look for monsters should look to it that
they do not become monsters. For when you gaze
long into the abyss, the abyss also gazes into you.
I'm slowly finding my way around this Linux malarchy
At the moment I'm using my laptop with a Ubuntu install and connecting through a wireless network that was very easy to set up. I tried your suggestions for a file manager Petskull but I could not navigate my file system using IceWM, I just could not find a way to open my home directory. Undeterred, I decided to try the Xubuntu file manager "Xfce" and I liked it, so that is what I am using now. It should get me prepared for installing Xubuntu 7.10 on my laptop in 8 days time.
I also un-installed Open Office and installed AbiWord, it definitely runs a lot quicker, thanks. I still can't get my CD-ROM to mount which is a bummer but I can get around that using memory sticks for file transfers.
So now that I feel more comfortable with this set-up I shall endeavour to check out other flavours but will concentrate on becoming more familiar with this one. Thanks for the links and suggestions Petskull and C:\ I really do appreciate your input and beingthereness.
Petskull you asked about a "light 'Powerpoint' program". I've just noticed on my "Liferea" RSS reader that Slashdot has an artical about a soon to be released competitor to OO called KOffice 2.0 That sure looks interesting.
I'm really looking forward to the next new release of Ubuntu "7.10" Gutsy Gibbon due for release in eight days. I'm not sure if I should do an upgrade or a complete new install. What would you chaps recommend?
Those who look for monsters should look to it that
they do not become monsters. For when you gaze
long into the abyss, the abyss also gazes into you.
I still can't get my CD-ROM to mount which is a bummer but I can get around that using memory sticks for file transfers.
Tao, What are you doing to try to get hte CD-ROM to mount? Are you using the mount command or are you expecting it to mount automatically?
quote: Tao said:
I'm really looking forward to the next new release of Ubuntu "7.10" Gutsy Gibbon due for release in eight days. I'm not sure if I should do an upgrade or a complete new install. What would you chaps recommend?
That would depend on what your goal is. If you want to become more comforatble with installing new systems, upgrade to the new version. It may have some new drivers and security measures which would make the install easier. If your goal is to get the machine up and doing something else useful, I would wait to upgrade until you have completed this install and it is stable enough that you feel comfortable upgrading it. If there is a specific new feature you want in the next release, then go ahead and upgrade immediately.
Upgrades can be a problem. An associate upgraded one of my computers earlier this year and it broke the machine. It didn't harm the hardware, but we couldn't get the programs on the machine run for over two months until we were able to figure out what had caused the problem and downgraded the OS to the older version.
I think you should be a little cautious about upgrading machine willy-nilly.
Sorry for the delay in replying hyperbole. The CD mount problem on my laptop has been solved. What I was doing was just loading a CD into the drive and waiting for it to mount. After a few minutes a notice would appear saying that the drive could not be mounted. I also tried to mount from the file browser with the same result.
A couple of days ago I decided to try to install the new version of Xubuntu 7.10 on the laptop. I must gave tried approximately six or seven times at least with the install hanging at various stages. Sometimes on the initial load of the live CD, sometimes as far as 55% into the actual install. At this stage of the install I would get a message that the CD Drive may be faulty or need cleaning, the hard drive may be faulty or be overheating, and there was another part of the message suggesting what the fault may be but I'm sorry to say I've forgotten what that was.
I tried to get some extra RAM memory for it but my local computer shops don't have "such old memory types" in stock.
SO I got myself a lens cleaner and then I put the laptop in the fridge for a few hours tried again and on on the second attempt at an install it managed to complete. So I know have a complete new install of Xubuntu on my old Dell Latitude laptop.
Now with Xubuntu my CD drive is fully working and wired and network connections have been recognised and established almost fully automatically with the minimum of configuration from me. I'm most definitely not going to fiddle with the system on the laptop any more as I have the feeling it is drinking in the last chance saloon. I'm going to treat it with kid gloves and not go overboard with simile, metaphor or analogy.
Now on my desktop I have Ubuntu 7.04 and it is working really well. I have al the eye candy I need and apart from Photoshop and perhaps Dreamweaver, I have everything I could want to make me a happy camper. I can listen to music, stream internet radio and video, view and do basic editing to my RAW photographs browse like a demon, email etc.
But....
My update manager is tempting me to update to Gutsy 7.10 I must say it is very tempting. Apart from Compiz being installed by default I would really like to be able to write to my NTFS partition from Ubuntu in ext3. Having said that I notice there are some people who appear to have problems with the upgrade especially with Compiz - Fusion.
So I think I'll take your "willy-nilly" advice and not upgrade just yet. Following the old adage, " If it ain't broke then don't try to fix it". Then over the next few weeks or perhaps months, I'll keep my eyes on the Ubuntu forums for problems and their solutions before "going for the burn"
Anyone here upgraded yet?
Those who look for monsters should look to it that
they do not become monsters. For when you gaze
long into the abyss, the abyss also gazes into you.
I suppose it's just because I am now so used to using Dreamweaver in the Code and Design mode.
I initially started using this mode so I could experiment with changing the code and I could see more or less straight away what the results of my twiddling was. I have been sooo (three o's lazy) lazy teaching myself html xhtml and CSS that I now need to constantly check in the Dreamweaver GUI and in the browser.
I have started to look at the html editors offered from within the ubuntu repositories but as I have to switch to XP for Photoshop anyway I use Dreamweaver in that same session.
I set myself sessions in XP where I edit photographs ready to upload or print or whatever So I also use that session to do any editing to my site (which is in a mess atm) then when I've finished those tasks I switch to Ubuntu for the rest of the time.
I'm off to follow the link you gave me it looks good at first sight. Oh yes I should add that I know next to nothing about coding. It is all hit and miss with me. For instance I plan to have a good look at the AJAX & Javascript Galleries, Slideshows and Effects Redux that po1 provided and see if I can incorporate one or two of them in my site. Cut and paste with a mallet handy in case of difficulty
Those who look for monsters should look to it that
they do not become monsters. For when you gaze
long into the abyss, the abyss also gazes into you.
Just wondering if you do your upgrade via the update manager or if you do a complete new install from CD-ROM?
I've kept most of my working files on a separate partition so I could go either way. Though I suspect that the update manager should be more straightforward if it works properly.
Once the system is up and running, it is better to keep the system up to date using the update manager. If you've kept your system up to date with the manager, you can actually use it to do a major version update when they are released. Some update managers sometimes have a problem with major version upgrades. I know they work on Red Hat. You will need to look for comments from people who have used your specific distribution to see if they have had problems doing major upgrades.
If you are more than one major version behind, or if your update manager has a reputation for not handling major updates well, you will be better off burning a CD and doing a new install. For the rest of your needs it is easiest, and safest to let the update manager handle the updates.
From: there...no..there..... Insane since: May 2001
posted 10-28-2007 21:02
quote: Tao said:
via the update manager or if you do a complete new install from CD-ROM?
I tried it the last time with the "Update Manager" and it bombed hard. I've heard that using this method has worked 99.9% of the time. Most of the failures have come from what hyperbole was speaking of. Not a completely up-to-date system. If there are new packages for what you have installed, get them, then upgrade following those instructions and you *should* be OK
I've heard via IRC that Gutsy is nice and fast. Faster than Fiesty.
Thanks hyperbole and C:\
I'm still running Feisty and I have taken your advice about methods of upgrade. When I do decide to upgrade I'll make sure I'm totally up to date with my updates. Another thing I may well do is un-install everything relating to Compiz prior to update via Update Manager. This is just in case of any conflicts. I have also downloaded 7.10 and have that burnt to disk just in case the other method goes wrong.
For now I still have Ubuntu working wonderfully well on it's own drive and the CompizConfig Settings Manager has been running as smoothly as a smooth thing on automatic smooth control.
Thanks for the linkage too.
A nuther update for y'all.
In an attempt to cover all the bases I could, I went for a clean install of Ubuntu 7:10 "Gutsy Gibbon" in a separate partition on the same drive that I already have Ubuntu 7:04 "Feisty Fawn". I did this so if anything went nasty I would always have a working OS to play with.
The installation went very smoothly indeed, then there were quite a few upgrades to download and install to bring my system up to date and this also went without a hitch. With this new version I can see, copy and write to all my other partitions and drives including the NTFS ones.
I still have to tweak my sounds as they are not working yet (the same thing happened with the 7:04 installation) but if I follow the same tweaking method as before I'm sure I'll get that up and running. All the lovely eye candy like Compiz is (more or less) built in with this version so no complimacated command line installs and hours reading the forums to get the thing up and running
So far I am very impressed with Gutsy Gibbon. The people who name these versions are really having a good laugh are they not?
Those who look for monsters should look to it that
they do not become monsters. For when you gaze
long into the abyss, the abyss also gazes into you.
Thanks Petskull I've already installed the compizconfig-settings-manager and compiz-fusion-plugins-extra through the Synaptic Package Manager. I was the first thing I did after installing all upgrades
I really wish I had kept notes on how I got the sounds working last time I'm sure it was through ALSA but I'm not sure of the steps I took. As I type I am using Automatix2 to install a shed load of things like Acrobat reader, Flash (I think) Google Earth and so on and on.
I'm going on walkabout tomorrow for a few days so I'll carry on trying to get the OS tuned to my needs when I get back. I see it has a free trial version of Crossover Office set up to install so I may give that a whirl too see if i can get Photoshop running.
C:\ I can't find where to "unmute the sound in the sound manager" There is under System>Preferences>Sound, an interface to mess with system sounds but no "Mute" button to be seen
Petskull or C:\ you did not mention if you have upgraded to Gutsy yet? Or anyone for that matter.
I think this is a great thread. The following question relates so closely to the theme here that I am posting it in hopes it is considered appropriate. Thanks so much...
Ok, I have been in computers about 25 years but not at the bits and bytes level. A year ago I bought a Dell desktop and had a very long difficult experience with the machine they sent and the customer service they provided. The NYS AG is suing Dell in a class action suit for many of the problems I encountered.
It is my understanding that MS will stop supporting XP Pro effective August or sometime in the next year. I am seriously thinking of moving to Linux so as to simplify my life. But the question is will it truly simplify my life?
Or put another way, for someone who just wants a simple reliable computer, does it make sense to move to Linux? I mean China and other countries have decided to go with Linux. I just want a simple computer system that I can rely on and MS with its plan for Vista, etc. is getting me very tired of all their problems.
and think Linux on the desktop might require more work than I want. I am a simple man with simple needs. Isn't Linux still a ways off from being sufficiently GUI for me?
Do you know of any websites that address my particular level of questions?
Thanks.
CountryBoy
( i am beginning to think I am a Luddite.....)
quote:
But the question is will it truly simplify my life?
I'd say "not quite yet, but almost". If you don't toy around with Beryls and Compiz, you should be fine "for the most", but still, I found myself issuing shell commands
after two or three days of Ubuntu. It's great, don't get me wrong, but I recommend opting for something like OSX, which combines the nerdy charm of Unix to
an extremely intuitive and refined user interface, if you want to avoid Vista.
For an Ubuntu for home users, a really real one, you should wait a few months, end of next year, the baby should be a boy, then it will really make your life easier to switch.
From: there...no..there..... Insane since: May 2001
posted 12-17-2007 22:46
quote: Tao said:
C:\ I can't find where to "unmute the sound in the sound manager" There is under System>Preferences>Sound, an interface to mess with system sounds but no "Mute" button to be seen
Ubuntu right? So you're running Gnome? In the right hand corner on the top, there should be a "speaker" icon. If you right click it, you will be given the option to "Unmute" Right now it probably has a red "x" next to it.
quote: Tao said:
Petskull or C:\ you did not mention if you have upgraded to Gutsy yet? Or anyone for that matter.
Yes I did upgrade to Gutsy, and no it didn't go so well. I lost X completely. So, I installed Debian LOL
posted 08-30-2007 20:49
