Topic: Asylum (Grail) updates

I'm planning a little work on the asylum in the up coming days - anybody have any features they'd really like to see?

Current list:

• [Flash] attribute
• changes to the rss feed (mostly have it link to the 'last post' of a thread, actually).

so long,

->Tyberius Prime

Well, I was going to suggest checking why iGoogle wouldn't eat the rss feed, but I just had it added successfully, must have been a year or so since my last try.

So thank you in advance for all the effort put into proactively fixing this my #1 pet issue that I'm just about now probably mentioning for the first and last time ever.

Could be nice to add a permalink button along the and or to easily link to a given post instead of looking for an ID in the source code of the page.

Yep, should just have the icon be clickable and voilà ...

new colors .. LMAO .. jk


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Issues I've come across:

• After you submit an edit, the URL is formatted wrong with an "&". (example: http ://www.ozoneasylum.com/30218?&mode=0&offset=5)
• Quickchanges may display two of the same day when they are actually different days around DST change. (example: You will see 2 yesterdays when they are really two different days.)

Also don't forget: Font size

That's everything I can think of for now, I'll let you know if I think of anything else.

Edit: Fixed list tags and stuff.



(Edited by zavaboy on 04-22-2008 01:26)

Hell yeah font size! let's welcome in 2008.

I use Netvibes for my Ozone RSS feeds, and with most other feeds I get a preview of the post too, but not with Ozone, I'm not sure if this is something that should/could be passed through with the RSS data, or if it's something in the setup my end.

Cheers,

right now, the feed doesn't pass on any of the actual post. I'm not sure how I would represent this appropriatly in rss right now.

Can we also get the pages of a thread displayed up ABOVE the actual thread as well, so that one does not have to scroll down to click on the next page, for example?

WebShaman | The keenest sorrow (and greatest truth) is to recognize ourselves as the sole cause of all our adversities.
- Sophocles

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WebShaman said:
Can we also get the pages of a thread displayed up ABOVE the actual thread as well, so that one does not have to scroll down to click on the next page, for example?

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+1 vote :P

ooh +2

Several forum software actually present links to each sub page of a thread on the forum listing as well. Maybe something to contemplate?

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I 4th the vote for page links at top of thread as well as at bottom.
Can't see any use for them on the index page personally...

[youtube] happy video embedding feature [/youtube]

oh, and i'd also vote for the preview feature.

thanks, TP

Another vote for the preview feature!

oh and for the fontsize:
i think every modern browser can do [CTRL]+[+] so i think there is not really a need for that.

in opera you just hold control and move your mousewheel.

What about editable Thread name/title ?

Don't know much about Flash but wouldn't the [flash] tag cover most cases including youTube, Blip.tv, Vimeo, Google video, ... ? or are Flash movies in general not welcome in the orange padded walls of ours ?

Also, posts being edit-able for 4 hours, I'm not sure about a preview feature.

Grumble: I believe the problem with the fonts is that the default size seem to make small texts unreadable in some browsers/platforms. That's not a sane default. Let's bring a bit of sanity in this mad house

[edit] All major browsers have the CTRL+mousewheel shortcut to zoom. Safari singles itself out by only affecting the font sizes. [/edit]



(Edited by poi on 04-26-2008 22:00)

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poi said:

Safari singles itself out by only affecting the font sizes

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well, my firefox doesnt zoom images either


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I use the Image Zoom Plugin to do that in my FF...hehe.

WebShaman | The keenest sorrow (and greatest truth) is to recognize ourselves as the sole cause of all our adversities.
- Sophocles

You're using ff2 and not ff3, right? I think they changed this for ff3. (For the record, I prefer the text-scaling-only zoom feature.)

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speaking of updates, did you notice that doc updated http://ozones.com/ in april.

shiny

I like the one font size for everyone, all our text and opinions are equal

Let this one font size be 42em because we value the inmates very MUCH here.

life's gotten to be stressfull. Might take till next weekend, or even the weekend after guys & gals.

bring back the doc

~this is not a signature~

I second that one, Arthemis.

Also, this one may sound silly and all, but I'd love to have a little indicator somewhere on each page telling me what the current server time is. I live in Australia, and all your crazy in-the-past times mess with my head and stuff.


Justice 4 Pat Richard

somehow make it easier for me to remember that I should visit here more often.

also, skaarjj, think it's about time to take that link out of your sig? you know, since it's a parked domain now and all...

-S

Yeah, probably. I'll get around to it one of these millennia. I should make something nice to replace it.

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Skaarjj said:

I should make something nice to replace it.

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could make one that says "Bring back twItch^". Might make him come around more often. Then 2 tasks are taken care of at once.

Later,

C:\

Oh, you don't want me back here more often. I'm just a bitter old queen now, no reason I should be here spraying vitriol all over the otherwise humble and respectful proceedings.

:)

-S

A little vitriol might help spice things up around here...


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twItch^ said:

I'm just a bitter old queen now...

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What the hell were you before then???

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twItch^ said:

Oh, you don't want me back here more often. I'm just a bitter old queen now, no reason I should be here spraying vitriol all over the otherwise humble and respectful proceedings. -S

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I'll take your vitriolic monarch and raise you my cantankerous old orneriness's. Or is it cantankerous old fartiness? I'll accept either.


Those who look for monsters should look to it that
they do not become monsters. For when you gaze
long into the abyss, the abyss also gazes into you.

Okay, okay, for old time's sake...

Screw you all. Hippies.

-S

^ The Bitch is back!

WebShaman | The keenest sorrow (and greatest truth) is to recognize ourselves as the sole cause of all our adversities.
- Sophocles

Usenet (newsgroups) offers a terrific functionality to its communities, a wonderful concept.

It's called the killfilter.

Usage:

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<welcome to my killfilter, [expletive optional argument]>
<PLONK>

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The plonk is not case sensitive. Using All Caps can be employed for emphasis.

Can this function be implemented in a forum? In this forum?

Why would you need it?

I think it's a simple way to end the discord that seems to poison the Asylum from time to time.
And because it is user specific/defined, it does not break the thread except for the owner of the killfilter.

Summary: everyone gets to get heard by those who want to hear them. those who don't are exempt. flame wars, dissent, bad blood, and pollution will decrease significantly.

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(Edited by SleepingWolf on 08-30-2008 16:32)

(Edited by SleepingWolf on 08-30-2008 16:32)

A few months back I suggested a light weight modification of the markup of the Asylum, namely adding an attribute with the userId of the poster in the container node of each post, accompanied with a tiny script ( that I wrote and only need a bit of testing to fine tune the UI and fix the eventual cross browser glitch ) creating a simple UI to shun on/off ( hide by mean of CSS ) users at will and store the info in a cookie.

Of course this won't be part of the logic of the Asylum and thus will not reflect in the feeds but it is a very low cost solution.


The question is : is the problem big or recurrent enough to deserve being dealt with ? Probably not. Luckily trolls and attention whores are quite rare in here. TP wasn't psyched about this shunning feature back then.



(Edited by poi on 08-30-2008 17:43)

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poi said:
TP wasn't psyched about this shunning feature back then.(Edited by poi on 08-30-2008 17:43)

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Thanks Poi
I'm sure TP had good reasons and it is his decision, however I find it goes a little too far when one poster threatens another one. Doesn't everyone here realize that this is a public forum? That employers and potential employers can view these posts? What kind of impression would they be left with? A pretty negative one that's for sure. I don't participate in these threads, I don't take sides, but I think some measures should be taken that protect free speech, discussion, and even arguments without name calling and physical threats.

Also, this link is worth reading again:
http://www.ozoneasylum.com/addaccount

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You agree, through your use of this service, that you will not use this website to post any material which is knowingly false and/or defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, or otherwise in violation of any law.

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The above boilerplate is well intended and sounds pretty clear as well.



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(Edited by SleepingWolf on 08-30-2008 20:22)

Sure. People violating the TOS of Asylum should be warned then banned. But let's face it these measures are useless against serial trolls and attention whores. Absolutely nothing can prevent them from registering new accounts, using a proxy to bypass an IP ban, and repeat history again and again.

The only semi-efficient way would be to have some form user rating, and an option for the Mad Scientists to mark a user as an alias of another one and make them share the same rating, maybe with a penalty. But that's more work, for little added value as the signal to noise ratio is quite good. The vast majority of users do behave and manage to ignore the odd ones.

You're right about banning. The silent treatment might be the best recourse.

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SleepingWolf said:

I'm sure TP had good reasons and it is his decision, however I find it goes a little too far when one poster threatens another one.

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Funny.

I said the same thing *many* years ago.

In regard to the same poster, even.
Imagine that.

I decided to forfeit my admin status when the Doc had no problem with the threats and other such behavior...


However, I think the only actual solution at this point comes down to one simple thing: don't feed the trolls.
The only way this poster gets anywhere is by people giving him attention. And like a young child, it does not matter whether the attention is positive or negative. He will take whatever route gets him the most attention, which is clearly negative in this case.

Ignore, ignore, ignore.
*Every* time.

And there will be no problem.

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DL-44 said:

However, I think the only actual solution at this point comes down to one simple thing: don't feed the trolls.
The only way this poster gets anywhere is by people giving him attention. And like a young child, it does not matter whether the attention is positive or negative. He will take whatever route gets him the most attention, which is clearly negative in this case.

Ignore, ignore, ignore.
*Every* time.

And there will be no problem.

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agreed!

Later,

C:\

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DL-44 said:

Ignore, ignore, ignore.
*Every* time.

And there will be no problem.

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/signed.

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DL-44 said:

However, I think the only actual solution at this point comes down to one simple thing: don't feed the trolls.
The only way this poster gets anywhere is by people giving him attention. And like a young child, it does not matter whether the attention is positive or negative. He will take whatever route gets him the most attention, which is clearly negative in this case.

Ignore, ignore, ignore.
*Every* time.

And there will be no problem.

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/sealed.


Those who look for monsters should look to it that
they do not become monsters. For when you gaze
long into the abyss, the abyss also gazes into you.

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CPrompt said:

Ignore, ignore, ignore.
*Every* time.

And there will be no problem.

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/delivered.

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/I'm Yours?




:-/

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WebShaman | The keenest sorrow (and greatest truth) is to recognize ourselves as the sole cause of all our adversities.
- Sophocles

@ SleepingWolf : DL-44 said that...but yeah, that's the deal.

/With Best Regards, C:\

Later,

C:\

/Like a Fool I went and stayed too long

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