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Slime
Lunatic (VI) Mad Scientist

From: Massachusetts, USA
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 10-22-2003 04:50

Brought to you by me before it was even posted on http://www.zeldman.com/ !
http://www.alistapart.com/

I like it. 3 new articles, too.

poi
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: France
Insane since: Jun 2002

posted posted 10-22-2003 05:04

Thank you!

Mathieu "POÏ" HENRI

Suho1004
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Seoul, Korea
Insane since: Apr 2002

posted posted 10-22-2003 05:32

Sweet. Way to go, Slime.


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krets
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: KC, KS
Insane since: Nov 2002

posted posted 10-22-2003 05:48

It's about damned time. Zeldman has been advertising that one for the past couple weeks.

I thought he was trying to pull a twitch.

:::11oh1:::

Emperor
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Cell 53, East Wing
Insane since: Jul 2001

posted posted 10-22-2003 09:39

Slime: Thanks

I don't know if I preferred the previous design - it was bold (if slightly oppresive) and you knew you were on ALA - this feels a bit like a lot of other sites (Is there a law that table-free designs need to be done in white or pale pastel colours?).

[edit: And nice to see RSS feeds too:
http://www.alistapart.com/xmlfeed/ ]

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NoJive
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: The Land of one Headlight on.
Insane since: May 2001

posted posted 10-22-2003 14:58
quote:
Is there a law that table-free designs need to be done in white or pale pastel colours?).



I thought it was just me...who noticed this. Have they become trendwhores?.... =)

Proof again tho' that 'content is king'....

mas
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: the space between us
Insane since: Sep 2002

posted posted 10-22-2003 16:29

ah, finally ALA v3 is up....didn't he promise 4 new stories? ok, nevermind, 3 are cool anyway

DL-44
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: under the bed
Insane since: Feb 2000

posted posted 10-22-2003 18:07

Nice to see that they are back in action. Nice articles too.

Don't like the design one bit.....

mas
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: the space between us
Insane since: Sep 2002

posted posted 10-22-2003 18:13

DL-44: i agree, it needs getting used to
the old one was more clearly arranged than the new one

Rinswind 2th
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Den Haag: The Royal Residence
Insane since: Jul 2000

posted posted 10-22-2003 19:07

The new hot-topics list is ok...
The missing (or hidden ) search function is erhm missing.
It looks a bit crowded while there is plenty of space to the sides at 1024*768. The content section has an fixed size and is not very liquid. The content however looks good but the design is a bit yucky...

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HZR
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Cold Sweden
Insane since: Jul 2002

posted posted 10-22-2003 19:17

Wondering why the first heading on that page is a <h6>.

ozphactor
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: California
Insane since: Jul 2003

posted posted 10-24-2003 21:17

Oh, man... is this it?

I have to agree that the old design was better. This one just feels... dead.

Great articles though (as always).

twItch^
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: the west wing
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted posted 10-25-2003 23:28

re: the design

Zeldman has, over the past 6 years, drifted from solid, bold colours, to solid, pastel colours. It's a standard migration when a "graphic artist" becomes a "graphic designer."

It's tough to respect the man's artistic inclinations when he keeps churning out stuff like that. No one would question his commitment to the quest of seperating style from content, or his uncanny ability to make usable websites...but you're right: must they all look like my grandmother's living room?

Veneficuz
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: A graveyard of dreams
Insane since: Mar 2001

posted posted 10-26-2003 01:42

Great articles (as usual), but as everyone has pointed out the design isn't as good as one could have expected. It is good, but could have been better...

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Hiroki
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: NZ
Insane since: Dec 2002

posted posted 10-26-2003 06:12

Thanks for the link, Slime.
Glad to see you back, Suho.
Cheers.

Hiroki Kozai

Dracusis
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Brisbane, Australia
Insane since: Apr 2001

posted posted 10-28-2003 22:57

What the hell is with the online dating service plugs... Says a lot for someone who avidly supports free and inderpendant content.

But I like this design better. Call me old fashioned, but I actually prefer fixed with paragraphs of text. *shrug* -- I guess the novelty of liquid page layouts wore thin for him too.

ozphactor
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: California
Insane since: Jul 2003

posted posted 10-29-2003 01:13

And even zeldman.com now only offers one pastel-colored theme. Sucks, cuz I quite liked the orange and red one...

DL-44
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: under the bed
Insane since: Feb 2000

posted posted 10-29-2003 18:33
quote:
I guess the novelty of liquid page layouts wore thin for him too



except....it's far from a 'novelty'. It serves a very valid purpose on may fronts =)

ozphactor
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: California
Insane since: Jul 2003

posted posted 10-31-2003 00:51

Sorry to drag this back up again... but has anyone been having problems scrolling the ALA site in Firebird 0.7?

Clicking the mousewheel, and then moving the cursor above or below the arrow to scroll works fine. Actually rolling the mousewheel, however, produces no effect. And this is the only site I've encountered this on...

Lacuna
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: the Asylum ghetto
Insane since: Oct 2002

posted posted 10-31-2003 00:56

nope...it's working just fine for me.

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ozphactor
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: California
Insane since: Jul 2003

posted posted 10-31-2003 01:03

Hmmm. Apparently, my SmoothWheel extension is what's causing the problem. When I disable it, I'm able to scroll ALA. When I enable it, I can't.

That's funny. ALA is incompatible with a Firebird extension

[EDIT: Well, guess I'm not the only one. Someone posted a note about it on the extension feedback page, and the developer is looking into it. It's interesting how I've never realized how dependent I am on the mousewheel, until something like this happens...]



[This message has been edited by ozphactor (edited 10-31-2003).]

poi
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: France
Insane since: Jun 2002

posted posted 10-31-2003 05:39

ozphactor: I've read somewhere, certainly here, that the smoothWheel problem was due to a certain doctype, or something like that

Mathieu "POÏ" HENRI

ozphactor
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: California
Insane since: Jul 2003

posted posted 10-31-2003 21:32

Unlikely... ALA is using an ordinary XHTML 1.0 Transitional doctype, and god knows I've seen those before.

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