Topic awaiting preservation: LotR - 11/11 in the Oscars!! (Page 2 of 2)

I knew LOTR would be the "real" winner of OSCARS.

Well, I don't care what anyone says, it was a great movie and I personally think most of the Oscars were well deserved. I think it also deserved the Oscar for Cinematography, although I have yet to see Master and Commander so don't hold me to that.

Peter Jackson deserved best director simply for devoting 7 years of his life to one project.

It is definately time to give a little credit to the fantasy genre. And yes, no main characters died, that's why it is called fantasy, it deals with the ultimate triumph of good over evil in an idealistic black and white world.

Ramasax

You don't consider Boromir a main character?

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it deals with the ultimate triumph of good over evil in an idealistic black and white world.

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Very little is black and white in LotR. There was a thread a while back that had a pretty decent discussion of this but everytime I try to go to it I just get sent to the seach screen.

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[This message has been edited by SPyX (edited 03-03-2004).]

black and white, good and evil, positive and negative, love and hate, sun and moon, orange and blue, so on. It's not the colors that matter, but the concept.

I believe spyx's point is that the concept (colors or no) doesn't apply.

There is a distinct evil in the Lord of the Rings.

But there is little else that is so clear cut, and many unpredicted evils to accompany the obvious one.

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You don't consider Boromir a main character?

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In the grand scheme of things, I never really considered Boromir as a main character or as one of the heros. Sure, he reformed in the end, but his pupose was to be an antagonist within the fellowship, a danger within. He is only in 1/3 of the story, I don't think that makes the cut for main character status, as least not in my book.

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DL-44: and many unpredicted evils to accompany the obvious one.

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I agree there may be some gray areas, but I think when compared to our world it is pretty simple.

Ramasax

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Hmm......childish comments about someone else's immaturity.

Interesting.

Any-hoo - Ram, I have to say that you are right to an extent (again, it follows that mythology context where things have to be somewhat clear cut), but I wouldn't go so far as to say that things are simple, or black and white. To see the movies alone, perhaps it comes off that way, but I think there is just a whole lot more present in the story that blurs a lot of the edges...

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Oh my.

Must we go this route again Ini?

Woa hey guys chill. Geez I thought we were just having some fun. Ini mocked my post I mocked his and he returned with a, imo, witty reply. Game over.

Seriously, y'all are too serious.

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Was simply pointing out the paradox of insulting someone's maturity with immature banter.

Didn't say the slightest judgemental or "serious" thing =)

But.....

Whatever.

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y'all are too serious

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I see only one guy being too (insanely) serious here.

InI, we - you and me - had some misinterpretations here not long ago, I really really don't want to start this again with you, I have nothing against you (neither pro...), but your reaction was unnecessarily harsh.

Read carefully the posts. Nobody attacked you. There were no reason to "f*ck you" someone. If you are not a child, then you should not get enraged just because someone alleged rated your message as "childish". Let it go, man.

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Well, I'm one of the few that had never read any of the books but watched the movies. I thought the movies were a little slow at points (mainly the first 2) and often filled with needless epic cinematography (I've seen mountains before, don't need to stare at em again, and again, and again...). I also felt that using the dwarf as the comic ocasionally broke the moode for me, I'm assuming that wasn't part of the book. Yet in spite of those nigling issues, I still thought it defiantly deserved the awards, for the last movie along or all three of them as a whole.

It's a gloriously epic tale that would be pretty much every director?s nightmare to try and realise to the extent that Peter Jackson did. From the sets down to the casting of so many varied characters and the wonderfully understated special effects, I reckon they earned every single one of those Oscars.

Althought, like all things, not everying will like it...

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I also felt that using the dwarf as the comic ocasionally broke the moode for me, I'm assuming that wasn't part of the book.

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That was my biggest problem with the movies.

There were some tongue-in-cheek moments between Legolas and Gimli, but the movie portrayed Gimli as pretty much a joke....and that was far from how it was supposed to be.

And uh.....Legolas never surfed down the stairs on a shield either

That's why the Two Towers was my least favorite of the films (well, that plus the things that had to be cut from the theater release....things which explained most of the damn story...)

I'm a huge fan of the movies and am very glad ROTK won all those oscars. Totally deserved in my opinion. That said though, I too hated the Legolas shield slide and using Gimli as a joke (even though I was amused at the theatre). And I much preferred the movies over the book. I know this statement won't be popular here but I didn't really like the novel. I thought it was stilted and numbing *runs away* I tried to read it again before ROTK came out but couldn't get past the first 20 pages. Liked the story, disliked the writing of it, loved the movies


Amerasu