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InI
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From: Somewhere over the rainbow
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posted posted 09-10-2001 15:00

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Slime
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From: Massachusetts, USA
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posted posted 09-10-2001 15:28

What is it?

InI
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From: Somewhere over the rainbow
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posted posted 09-10-2001 15:41

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lallous
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From: Lebanon
Insane since: May 2001

posted posted 09-10-2001 16:10

I'm interested in Graphic programing Ini. I would be glad to read your tutorials....

As for my Java learning progress....I'm now at chapter 9, Java Exceptions....got two more chapters and I start with Applets and stuff...

InI
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From: Somewhere over the rainbow
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posted posted 09-10-2001 16:18

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InI
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From: Somewhere over the rainbow
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posted posted 09-10-2001 16:41

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Slime
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From: Massachusetts, USA
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posted posted 09-10-2001 18:12

Hmm... It didn't work for me... Is IE6 the first MS browser to not support Java? How can I fix this? It's just a grey box.

I don't think I'm too interested in it at the moment... maybe some other time, but it seems like a lot of stuff I'll have to learn first.

InI
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posted posted 09-10-2001 18:21

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mr.maX
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From: Belgrade, Serbia
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posted posted 09-10-2001 18:42

Besides OpenGL, don't forget about DirectX!

InI
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posted posted 09-10-2001 18:47

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Emperor
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Cell 53, East Wing
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posted posted 09-10-2001 21:04

One advantage with Flash is that it is pretty simple to find what you need and instal the latest upgrade - an awful lot of users would give up when looking through that web site looking for this page:
http://www.jausoft.com/products/gl4java/gl4java_main.html

I like the online installer feature but how many people are going to be put off by the message "Be sure to have the MS-JavaVirtualMachine build 3186 or later installed !"

For this kind of thing to become more mainstream they are going to have to sort out simpler ways giving people access to the plug in - I'm sure this will come in time.

Anyway enough of the rant (frame abuse gets to me): That is impressive Ini - you may be singlehandedly restoring my faith in Java (in its place, of course).

Keep up the good work - I'm looking forward to seeing further tutorials.

EMps


InI
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posted posted 09-10-2001 21:16

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Emperor
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Cell 53, East Wing
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posted posted 09-10-2001 21:57

Ini: I've wandered off from the computer I installed it on but I'll sort a screenshot out tomorrow.

I'm also sure that with a simpler site and some platform detection it should be possible to serve up a much more focused selection of plugins.

Emps

Emperor
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Cell 53, East Wing
Insane since: Jul 2001

posted posted 09-12-2001 20:11

Ini: Thanks for the reminder (somedays I'd forget where I put my head if it wasn't reflected in the monitor) and as penance I've done 3 to try to catch the different 'states':
http://www.theemperor.f2s.com/screenshots/ini1.jpg
http://www.theemperor.f2s.com/screenshots/ini2.jpg
http://www.theemperor.f2s.com/screenshots/ini3.jpg

It doesn't do it justice but there you are (specs of the machine: c. 1Ghz Pentium, 256mb RAM, IE5 WinNT - GL card? Sorry I'm having one of those days and a recent tweak in the network software seems to have moved things around. Would the OpenGL settings in display be of any use to you?). I look forward to seeing other examples.

Emps



InI
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From: Somewhere over the rainbow
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posted posted 09-12-2001 20:32

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Emperor
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Cell 53, East Wing
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posted posted 09-12-2001 21:15

Ini: The online instal worked very nicely and so I'd recommend something like:

1. The update link goes straight to the required page.

2. Platform detection offers up the right choices.

3. Things are presented in clear easy to understand English (no technical talk).

4. You give people as few options/tests as possible but a link to a good FAQ which explains what is going on (and an security issues).

5. The page could do with being a little easier on the eye and 'comforting'. Hmm I'm not sure that sound right but you need to put people at their ease - people can get nervous having to instal things on their computer.

You bsically need to make things as smooth and seamless as possible for people if you want less technical users to instal the plug-in.

Hope that helps.

Emps

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