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nt
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Newly admitted 		posted posted 02-04-2002 00:58

This http://koti.mbnet.fi/~powder/v.0.02/ is what I am currently working and I've decided to keep this stuff.

I'm looking for very simple help I guess...
I need help in coding. I'm really rusty because not learning any html or other coding stuff in a long time.

So if you'd be kind enough and check out this "graphic design" section http://koti.mbnet.fi/~powder/v.0.02/graphicdesign/graphicdesign.html
and let me know if my style sheet's are okay. And if not how to change them.
I also need some help in the basic things like is it okay to put all the font tags in the places in the text where I want to change text color or something or is there "easier" way to do it?!
I'd be stoked if some one could even give me a link to some tutorial pages or something!

These pages are still hevily underconstruction and all help in the coding stuff is highly appreciated!

Thanks!

-Time is always against me-

[This message has been edited by nt (edited 02-05-2002).]
eyezaer
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 posted posted 02-04-2002 04:38

If you have any probs/questions about css... check out http://www.w3schools.com/css/default.asp

That place rocks. Check out what it says about fonts and text... css does wonders with fonts, and you can get rid of all those icky <font> tags!
CPrompt
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 posted posted 02-04-2002 14:25

Well, I am guessing that you changed some stuff on the style sheets.

On the front page I would put the JavaScript external as well so it is cached. The front page is really wide on my 800x600 machine. If you want it to be more liquid I would change the width to 100% on the tables instead of 900 since some computers are at 800x600.

The links at the bottom of the page are just a little hard to read with the background being white and the links being that pink color.

I would keep to a color scheme for your pages. You have one set of colors on your main page and then something different on your Graphics page. I don't see any graphics on that page either, I guess they are not up yet??

For the style sheets you can move the body attributes to that as well:

body{background-color:#31362F; margin:0px 0px 0px 30px;}

That is all I can see right now. Hope that helps.

<edit> Oh yeah, put the deminsions of the graphics in there as well.</edit>
Later,
C:\


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nt
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Newly admitted 		posted posted 02-04-2002 18:21

Hey thanks eyezaer and CPropt! That stuff was very useful! definitely what I was looking for!
I'll post the new stuff with graphics soon!

-Time is always against me-
nt
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Newly admitted 		posted posted 02-04-2002 20:54

Okay hey some coding genious check out this http://koti.mbnet.fi/~powder/v.0.02/graphicdesign/graphicdesign.html source code and let me know if it's okay.
The graphics are there now


-Time is always against me-
Emperor
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From: Cell 53, East Wing
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 posted posted 02-04-2002 23:11

nt: For the previously posted design CPrompt's comments pretty much cover it (I've said that a few times today!!) so to this page:

1. Try not to mix upper and lower case in your tags.

2. The margins are set to 00 in this:

code:
<body bgcolor="#31362F" background="bg.gif" leftmargin="00" rightmargin="0" topmargin="0"

marginheight="0" marginwidth="00">



unless you want everything to look the same in NS4.x all of that can be extracted to the CSS too.

3. Metatags (again).

Other than that the design looks pretty good (well I like it anyway).

Emps
nt
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Newly admitted 		posted posted 02-04-2002 23:56

Thanks a ton for all of your advices folks! It's very late now so I'll get to all of your comments in th morning!
So here is the link http://koti.mbnet.fi/~powder/v.0.02/graphicdesign/graphicdesign.html
I updated mouse overs and some other stuff.

Hey CPrompt I wans't able to get that
body{background-color:#31362F; margin:0px 0px 0px 30px;} code working...
also how can I add background picture in css?

Thanks

-Time is always against me-
Emperor
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 posted posted 02-05-2002 02:13

nt: Things don't look so good in Opera at the moment so I'd advise a bit more testing there.

For you background styles check the specs:
www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/colors.html#q2

Emps
CPrompt
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 posted posted 02-05-2002 03:31

Didn't work eigh?? Hmm.. Well I just cut and pasted exactly what you have and it worked for me. Be sure to take the stuff out of the body tag though. Then look at it. If you still have the bgcolor="whatever" in the <body> tag then that is what you are going to get and the CSS stuff is going to be left out.

Bookmark that link that Emps gave you. You will want to read that stuff very carefully. Sometimes it can be a little confusing especially if you haven't been coding in a while, but keep at it and try to understand everything that is going on. W3C is the best resource for Web Stuff. IMHO

<edit> I keep forgetting to tell you this. Whenever you have a link to a page that isn't uploaded yet, be sure to put in <a rel="nofollow" href="#">LINK HERE </a> this way when I click I don't get the "Page Can No be Found". Cool?
</edit>

Later,
C:\


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nt
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Newly admitted 		posted posted 02-05-2002 10:14

CPrompt I got the whole bg thing working!! Thanks a lot!
The front page for now is going to be big and I know someone does have lower resolution... but I decided to make it bigger this time. I will be adding new splash page everymonth or so though.
I'll try to do something about the links!

Hey EMp metatags are coming when I found them somewhere. I think I saw something in the HTML forum, need to check that out.
Thanks for that CPrompt didn't know that!


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nt
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Newly admitted 		posted posted 02-05-2002 14:16

I added almost all the content already and now it pretty much start's looking how it should.
Let me know your thoughts. http://koti.mbnet.fi/~powder/v.0.02/graphicdesign/graphicdesign.html

-Time is always against me-
CPrompt
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 posted posted 02-05-2002 19:21

I think that it is working out pretty nicely. I will be better once when the actual graphics pics are there it will fill out nicer.

On this page, the only thing that really bothers me is that it is too wide. On my 800x600 machine the name "MEPH" is being cut off. That is my only grip really. Other than that, I still think a color scheme would help out and make it a little more connected. It just seems that these are two different web sites and not joined.

That's all really.

<edit>Oh on this part:

quote:
[ Art Feb 28th, 2002 3:54PM ]
More art soon to com in the mean while check out Propainac



The link is not right. It is taking me to a Forbiden zone. Check your link and make sure you have it right.

</edit>

Later,
C:\


~Binary is best~

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nt
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Newly admitted 		posted posted 02-05-2002 20:16

Hey CPrompt does your browser add scrollers so you can see the page if you just scroll?

Yeah that is just a test link. I'll change it!
Now all the content I currently have is online!

Only thing that bothers me now is that the bottom of the design page that green block should have some graphics or something... I might try to come up something!

-Time is always against me-
CPrompt
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 posted posted 02-05-2002 21:55

Yeah I get a horizontal scroll bar but as a general rule, we try not to get that. Kind of "bad ju-ju". Since you were asking about coding techniques that is one thing that web designers kind of stear away from

<edit>
Everytime that I reply I forget to say something... Anyway, it would be real nice to have something say what page you are on. Like at the top above the navigation menu have "Digital" or "Web". Know what I mean? This way there are no questions as to what page I am looking at.

also, on the pages where you see the sample pictures, you may even want to put underneath the picture a link telling them "Click to Enlarge" or something like that so they know that there are bigger pictures, instead of relying on them to just click the picture.

I think that pages are coming along nicely though.
</edit>


Later,
C:\


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