Topic: PSpong.com? (Page 1 of 2)

I couldn't help but notice the domain was available, hmm...

Your pal, -doc-

hmmmm
should i, should i not?

what could you do with it? a portal system where users can sign up and play pong....

Yes, but they'd be playing *Photoshop* pong! Prize matches, member rankings, working your way up the standings, "the thrill of victory, the agony of the feet"? It was just a thought, always amazes me when I see an open domain name for something I'm thinking of.

Your pal, -doc-

hehe...
i know that feeling!
i just went over to gandi.net filled all out and then in the last moment, just before the payment i cancelled it... hehe

Doc : Do iT! Do it I say hehe and if you want a hand, count me in. Awesome =)

Weadz (Still waiting for Fallen)

I've been mauling it over ever since DB and DL started their match. Can't help but think about it. Sure sounds attractive.

A page where you sign up as a member. A page where you sign up for a game. As soon as there is a match, both parties are e-mailed, there is a general post, and both are wiped from the match sign-up. Then they go to town. I'm sure one you you script-heads could manage this fairly easily. I'm sure maX could do it while napping on his lunch break.

If you think you can spare the bandwidth, use some sort of mechanizism to get the PSD back and forth via the site, but that might be a bit much. If you do it right, members can be totally anonymous besides member name, but, again, that might be a bit much.

And just think of the money you could make with click-throughs!




[This message has been edited by warjournal (edited 11-19-2001).]

The Forum Is a bit confuzing when it comes to who is playin or wants to play who... A webpage would be cool... Very Cool... unless the excitement of this wears down...

and pspong.com has a really nice ring to it...

[This message has been edited by eyezaer (edited 11-19-2001).]

I personally went to see if photoshop-tennis.com was still free, when I felt that this was taking off... to bad it was already taken.
(I know, I know, I can be a leetle capitalistic at times. But not always. But when I see a dime lying on the ground...)

Tyberius Prime

I'd be willing to help coding!

Tyberius Prime

i've been running the design of this site thru my head for the last few days...
this sort of thing really needs some sound conceptual modelling, and i'm willing to donate a few hours to this one.
i'll be overseas for most of december, so it'll have to be conceptual, not actual coding.
(ie a few emails of design ideas, etc)
...but love to hear of any progress ideas that ensue.


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b u n c h a p i x e l s

I'd love to help. I need experience and it seems really cool. But I'm not nearly as good as most people here and I know little about Photoshop, but if you got some work you think I could handle just tell me about it and I would be more than happy to help.


http://www.maninacan.com

Doc, What's this? Have I been far away for a long time?

How do you decide the amount of points and who wins the match ?

Everybody wins.

(Wakkos: to me, the words "domain name" in doc's post are just regular text. Perhaps this does it to: domain name ? Could be spyware or something, I dunno.)

Doc: don't buy the domain until you've got the site built. You'll save money that way if you change your mind. =)

maybe we should organize a mailinglist, so that anyone who wants to help can be informed...
or even a project portal, like on projectplace.com ?
any one in for that?

so long,

Tyberius Prime

I go away awhile and come back to amazing things.

If it beasme popular enough to attract them we could sponsers later like Adobe and Wacom etc.. to provide prizes.

I believe Ini has said that he could work on something to cover the server side scripting and buncha and maninacan have offered their services so it would be rude of not to offer to do something (I'm lacking any graphical skills but I'm sure I'll learn a lot from the quality work that is going on here, when I get the time to look things over, so it might be good to give a little something back). It should be possible to do something with CafePress:
www.cafepress.com

(as the Doc has) to offer mousemats, Tshirts, etc. with various designs on them (from those who agree, of course) - a small markup would pos. go some way to covering hosting costs no?

[edit: As I suggested a tutorial on getting CafePress working from one's site, rather than linking in to theirs, might be a good idea over at the GN, if people thought that was a good idea and this gets off the ground, then I could sort that out and then write it up as a tutorial - we win two different ways!!]

Thoughts?

Emps



You're my wife now Dave

[This message has been edited by Emperor (edited 11-24-2001).]

Go for it!!!!!!!!

Think about it, it would be a great franchise for ps6 and other adobe graphic programs. It would be a whole different asylum for photoshop pong!!!! Think of the possibilities, the graphics that would be created!!! I think you should go for it........

If the bulk of things were done server-side perhaps Weadah could pull some impressive PHP/Flash interaction thingy out of his magic hat to make us all jealous!!

Emps


You're my wife now Dave

if it's just PHP, i'll be of some use at last... (ie. give me your unstructered, wiered and vague feature requests. me and wedah will turn them into working code... but don't put me in charge of the html design yet!)

yours,

Tyberius Prime

I'd love to help in anyway too

quote:

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unstructered, wiered [sic] and vague feature requests

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Well they are a speciality of mine so we could be onto something!!

So we've got ideas, offers of help, etc. what next?

Emps


You're my wife now Dave

This is unrelated to PSPong, just answering Wakkos' question...

Wakkos, that yellow links are coming from TOPText, adware/spyware that has been installed on your computer together with some adware supported application (Kazaa, for example). You can find more information about it in this article.

/me is suffering from not knowing how to spell weired. no, not wired. More like in weired things going on. so how do I spell it?

let's see:
common goal: Check.
Graphic Artists: Check.
Enough people to promote: check.
coders: check.
someone who is willing to buy the domain: check
A webserver with PHP/Mysql: Failed.
Huge amounts of bandwith: Failed.

anyone willing to provide the last two?
(and the first thing we'll set up is a developers forum...)


Tyberius Prime

erm...yah... like I said.... look down at the next post...

[This message has been edited by taxon (edited 11-25-2001).]

TP: Correct spelling of weird: Check
www.dictionary.com/cgi-bin/dict.pl?term=weird

The amount of space and bandwidth would depend on what was planned. The games would be best played out here and any site would handle the signing on and assigning games (say 3 categories: Pool, Tournament and Challenge) and any other stuff (polls to vote for best player in tournament matches or best overall picture, a store, etc.). If anything more than the final PSDs were to be stored then things might start getting problematic. I think if it really took off then sponsorship or something would have to be sought to cover costs. It all depends on what the plans are - if any.

Emps


You're my wife now Dave

I think step by step jpegs (or gifs depending) should be saved so you can see the progression of the image and the final PSD so you can mess with it.

We could also expand the concept to potoshop games and include make-it, but make-it unlike pong does work well on the forums and there would otherwise be no reason to add it, just a thought though

Schitzoboy: And with added commentary too!!

I think elements of PSPong work well here but it could do with something to organise things (and, of course, playing it here means we'll attract more interesting people here).

I'm sure there are plenty of other games that people could play - I know I pointed this out a while ago but the site has really got going now and there is some interesting work going on - the links go through to a couple of pieces that our own moaiz contributed to:
http://anexquisitecorpse.net/archive/00000025.shtml
http://anexquisitecorpse.net/archive/00000023.shtml

There is no lack of enthusiasm for this kind of thing I suspect the main constraint will be on people's time so it might be best to keep things focused.

Emps


You're my wife now Dave

And thanks to Darkshadow for pointing out this little graphical challenge - DigitalQuilt:
http://ds9r.com/digitalquilt

his piece (with softhead) is at:
http://ds9r.com/digitalquilt/quilt/complete/quilt_31.htm

Although unfinished the patch of the week's quilt is scary - you wouldn't think 2 people were working on it.

It is also a sneaky way to bump this topic back up the top of the stack (although I assume as PSPong.com is still available no-one fancied taking on the task of spinning off another site).

Emps


You're my wife now Dave

Here's a biggie collaborative: http://www.cubadust.com/versus/ -- close but not quite. Everything spins. Leave me alone. I hate being sick, especially now of all times. But it's still cool. Enjoy.




[This message has been edited by warjournal (edited 11-29-2001).]

<<common goal: Check.
Graphic Artists: Check.
Enough people to promote: check.
coders: check.
someone who is willing to buy the domain: check
A webserver with PHP/Mysql: Failed.
Huge amounts of bandwith: Failed.
anyone willing to provide the last two?
(and the first thing we'll set up is a developers forum...)>>

I can provide space, at my (low) cost, with PHP/MySQL: Linux based. Not sure what you call "huge" amounts of bandwidth. No reputable host promises "unlimited" but I can provide up to 15000MB per month. Email me if interested.

Either way, I hope this gets going. I'd be willing to help with graphics and navigation (UI) design, if needed.


Never underestimate the creative powers of pure laziness.

AC: That is very generous - now as far as I'm aware:

common goal: check.
Graphic Artists: Check.
Enough people to promote: check.
coders: check.
someone who is willing to buy the domain: check
A webserver with PHP/Mysql: check.
Huge/large/good amounts of bandwith: check.

It looks to me that all the requirements are in place - is this still seen as being a good idea? At least as an experiment to see how it goes (or until such time as we get bored and find something else to fill our time!!).

buncha has had some ideas about the design, Ini has mentioned some ideas about the backend and there have also been offers of help for the code and GUI anyone fancy coordinating things? We do have people here experienced in managing teams.

I should also add that we should also consider some legalese about signing over rights to the images to pspong.com and about it being not for profit any money generated from adverts/sponsorship/mousemat sales go to covering costs, etc.

Emps


You're my wife now Dave

well, AC, thank you!
Now set us up a little space, doc, rent the domain and point it there, hand me the password, and I'll set us up a developers forum :-)

But I am not happy at all with signing the copyright of the pictures to our host... although that might be the simplest and safest approach for us. any US copyright lawyers in here? (this would belong to our dev forum then...)

so long,

Tyberius Prime

TP: There are probably other alternatives to signing over the copyright - like the creators keeping the copyright but giving pspong.com rights to reproduce the image. Someone with more experience may know of the best approach but if this is seen as a good idea then there should be something written down so that everything is clear and there are no misunderstandings.

Anyone any quick back of the envelope calculations on possible bandwidth - AC has kindly offered space but I'd hate to think we'd accidentally take a server down or anything!!

Damn - that is all unpleasantly pratical but these and a few other things probably need to be addressed to reduce any future problems.

Thoughts anyone?

Emps

If ya need a host........ :-)

We can do the PHP/MySQL thing. Doc - you've got the DNS settings I sent you for GN? Grab the domain and tie those to it. Let me know - I can have the space up and running in 5 minutes. Bandwidth isn't really an issue (it helps when you own the hosting company...)

I like PhotoshopPong.com better.

<thinking>
There has GOT to be a way to tie this to GurusNetwork.....
</thinking>




[This message has been edited by Pugzly (edited 11-29-2001).]

Now that would be cool.

Hey, If you are not really sure about buying PsPong... or waht ever you could do PhotoshopPong.Gurusnetwork.com

Or Not.... that is a pretty long name there... hehehehe

Pugzly: Now that does make things nice and easy - there are probably a few things that might get tried which could turn into a few tutorials (I know I've said this before but if its run of PHP and MySQL we could talk nicely to Weadah about hooking it up to a sweet Flash interface and that would be a tutorial I'd like see!! ~whips drool of keyboard~).

I liked PSPong.com as it seemed nice and punchy/short.

Emps


You're my wife now Dave

So, who's going to code the backend for this thing?

About copyright of the images people make... the Internet Raytracing Competition does a similar thing, look at their copyright info page here - entrants to the competition are required to submit to that copyright.

Well, if someone wanted to start whiteboarding a MySQL db, that would be fine. My servers have all the flexibility that we'd need. And I've got phpmyadmin, so that should make things a little easier.

I'm standing by....