Topic: PsPong.com Logo Proposals

I opened this one because the pspong? ][ thread was getting longish as it is, without the logo proposals mixed in.

so here is mine.

my proposed color scheme would be a light grey for the background (EFEFEF) and the light blue(7A93B5) for everything else :-)

yours,

Tyberius Prime

I was thinking of using the photoshop 'grid' a a background for this site, it would seem to reinforce the Photoshop nature of this competition, and be pretty good for viewing images against, I'd think. Still no logo ideas floating through my head, stupid head, be creative, dammit!

Your pal, -doc-

OK, I just had a chat with taxon, and he was also thinking about the grid background. He mentioned an idea of maybe building the name in a wireframe, and letting it appear more and more developed as the text spelled out? (I'm not thinking animation here, but graphics, grid on one end, finished text on the other.) Maybe with some architecural style grid lines left in, to show the nature of the "work in progress"?

I was picturing another one, more of a cartoony feel, with a manic opponenet on the other side, lost in the perspective almost, and a flaming, psychedlic photoshopped "ball" flying straight at you, with the name worked in there somhow? Vague, but there's a hint of a picture in my head.

Your pal, -doc-

doc, I love the grid idea. and it would not distract from the images at all. (like a solid colored background would).

I'll see what I can do with the 'getting more definite' idea...

yours,

Tyberius Prime

how about a version of the above, but including a table tennis (pong) table with a couple of table tennis bats (paddles) bashing the PS eye across the net? just popped into me head.. its the coffee doing it mind you.. heh ~Vp~

OK while we are throwing ideas in I'll mention the one I threw in which may have been lost somewhere in the other posts: the words PSPong with the vertical bars of the first P and the g being the bats and the o being the ball. It might be a little twee but if PS elements were thrown in too (grid, eye, etc.) it could draw the two parts together. I suspect there will be a need for a larger more detailed logo and a simpler one for link to us buttons so that also might be something to bear in mind.

Emps

All I gotta say is...what's PS Pong without Toemuncher and a Black Pill

Ot: I'm sorry Shizz, what does your pet, toemuncher, look like? your whois page doesn't tell anything, but that it's called nicky. (btw. found that with google :-) )

everybody, keep drawing

Watch out Shiii, someone might get the idea that toemuncher looks kind of round and "ball-like", and next thing you know he'll be whizzing back and forth across the net! I don't think that would go over well, with the ... canine portion of our audience! <g>

Your pal, -doc-

What about play a soccer game with ToeMuncher?

LOL...toemuncher pong...hehehe

Ok, started these last night, and hadn`t read this thread yet, but here they are anyway.

I liike the idea Doc was sayin taxon proposed, with the wireframe progressin to a completed text

I take this place is the place for ideas for PSpong.com then?

Doc your talking about a grid is that the grid style on This (the grid under the text I am referring to), because I think that is less distracting to the viewer of the site as the lines are small and don't stand out much on the page, than the Photoshop grid.

Well here goes I hope I don't get thrown out for my opinions on this ,

Also I was thinking about breaking into a clean style to it site, I mean by this breaking out of the style that all the other sites linked with this one (handson, gurusnetwork , etc). I say this because I think this type of style is getting old now and to me looks very factory driven type styles (All what tutorials can show you and no real creativity there as far as graphics go), I know this sounds wired from some one who has not been around long and have not been involved a lot, but I like to be different, unless the style you want is to fit in the rest on the sites linked with this, which is good as all the site will have the same sort of style to them, than Pspong.com being the odd one out as far as the style goes.

I can make some ideas on what I mean if you want?

Maybe I have express to much about how much I like graphics tutorials (which I don't like at all even though they do bringing a lot of traffic to sites who have them), but it is just my option, so I suppose I will be ejected out of this forum now because of my views on tutorials.



Chris C

DOC, I Really like that Idear! A loonie guy smashing a flaming ball with the words PSpong on it... right at ya! to bad i cant draw! but yah, There would be some great perspective / distance stuff in there kinda like the pixel pimp yah?

I will agree with Darkshadow. Both Hands-On and Guru is great sites, but kind of 'oldfashioned' if you understand..? A new look, clean lovely design, would probably attract more visitors too. But I know - it's always difficult to do something different and creative, but it's a lot of creative peoples around here isn't it?



Softhead

DS: If you've got ideas for the type of layout you were thinking of then knock something up and start a new thread in this forum for ideas along this line ('PSPong.com layout proposals' to follow the theme).

I'm not clear what your concerns are over the design of GN and handson - a bit boxy perhaps? Boxy is so 1997!! Its worth noting that as both sites are aimed at people from beginners upwards it might be a good idea to stick with a more 'conventional' design as the more fancy your interface becomes the more people you confuse. Perhaps PSPong.com is aimed at a more 'sophisticated' audience and so a 'different' and 'creative' design might be in order - I would think that something 'familiar' might be more intuitive and easier o navigate but lets see those ideas (in a new thread).

Emps


You're my wife now Dave

Emp: you right about "fancy your interface becomes the more people you confuse" yea but I mean bring it up to date sort off, but in a way that it is not confusing for the beginners to the site. But I was thinking to make it simple yet has a up to date feel to it then handson, gurusnetwork , etc as they are a bit "Boxy" but they do there job as getting beginners involved.

I will make you ideas tonight if possible and start a new thread, if no one starts one before and see what other people say and ideas they throw in too about the layout and style

Any ideas on what links, content, etc there must be?

*Runs of to cell with some multi coloured crayons and starts make ideas*

Chris C

DS: You are never going to get thrown out of here for stating your opinion and esp. not when you are prepared to back it up with suggestions for design improvements!! I look forward to seeing what you come up with.

As to content its all pretty much up for discussion expect the front page to have some links to:

1. The current active games

2. A links section

3. An admin section for the user to log in, upload their pics, change their preferences, etc.

4. Some link boxes back to here, GN, handson, etc.

5. A store, if its deemed a good idea (and we can get something working to automate the volume of stuff generated)

6. A kind of spectators gallery where they can view all the active games, and from their drop in and leave comments, etc.

7. FAQs - v. important (should have that higher up the list).

Aim for something like that and how probably won't go far wrong. I suspect the aim will be to get it automated using server side scripting so it will be updated without having to have anyone intervene too much and keep it light so it'll load quickly even for us dialup monkeys.

OK pos. a little too much to ask for but see what you make of that.

Emps


You're my wife now Dave

i have yet to get a copy of photoshop at home, so i cant really make a demo of what i mean, but i think it would be cool to have a pong paddle hitting a ball that leavces a trail, and you can see (in the trail) the ball transforming into a glowing dove.
Just my sad opinion...
Lobotomies for all! no charge!
Peace
DL

hrmm... I am thinkin about a logo over here. I will post it if I ever get it to an acceptible place... Drawing people in motion is someting i have never done b4...

Grid bg is cool. doobie... this looks fun...

Would it be blasphemous if the original version of the PSPong logo wasn't made in photoshop? I'll submit anyway. =)

Slime: I think that is great and I'd enjoy the irony (what did you use?). Its along the lines I was hinting at but done better than I could have done (and I know I'd have been tempted to for an unpleasant flourescent green!!).

It gets my vote out of the designs so far.

Emps

Slime: I like it, but the first thing as stroke me: PSP => Paint Shop Pro ... dunno, maybe it's just me.

Softhead

Doc?

i really like the graduated Grid Backgound on the wallpapaers on your store page

Mine looks sorta pixelated, made it in Microsoft Image Composer, I'm sure it could be easily duplicated in Photoshop without the pixelation.

Shouldn't the logo be in vector and PSM? So it works fine on print..? I usually make logos in vector, but I'm not the best "logomaker" :-) I'll try make a proposal later.... but I hav ea few things to do today.

Softhead

My lunchhour is over, and this is what I came up with.
Not very impressive, but maybe it can give some sort of inspiration...

ZOX: I like it!! Anychance of offering up the PSD so people can play with it and throw their versions in?

Emps


You're my wife now Dave

Sure, I've uploaded the PSD file.
It contains many hidden layers of things that I decided I did not like, but I left them all in case anyone can do something better with them.
http://www.webwhirlers.com/pspongidea.psd

Oh, here's a zip too
http://www.webwhirlers.com/pspongidea.zip

On PSpong.com I think it would be cool if there was a space for pspong matches that made logos for the site, then the best of all of those where selected and a random logo thing happened like on GurusNetwork. Just thinking that would be a good way to get some nice logos.

http://www.maninacan.com

I think some minimal animation with the "paddles" and ball moving would be cool. Maybe a Flash thing? I envision a little background sound like the old atari Pong sounds....

could we do it like gurus? you know submit different logos and put them on rotater....

maninacan and Puglzly: Both good ideas - the random thing seems to gaining favour but I'm not sure a Flash logo would go down well with everyone, however, I'd love to see it and if it seems like a good idea to have things customisable then I'd really like to see that as an option (pos. with the whole interface done in flourescent green on black).

Other ideas?

Emps


You're my wife now Dave

Well, it`s not flourescent green on black, but it was fun...

NIce one bob... i like that the best... I still have to make mine... Totally different that all this though... lallala... I am like *SO* ready for skool to be over. *shivver*

anybody got any extra pills? this is *one* long night.

Hmm...little bit too blatant I think. How about an actual logo, to make sure we set the brand?

After all, text treatments are nice, but they don't leave incredible lasting impressions. A real PSpong logo should be simple and accept any text treatment we really give to it.

After all, even the Guru's logo is just that word with a customized font work instead of existing fonts with treatments.

I will agree with DarkGarden. Just something simple... i still haven't done my proposal, but I'm thinkin about it.

Softhead

Here's the general idea of what I mean. We nail a logo that's symbolic of the game, the speed, the modern quality, and the fun of it.


Then we can do simplistic text work with if needed


Or deal with it as an integrated header on the site

(I'm actually working on something with the above basically in it)

Then we have an establishing brand that isn't dependent on fonts, but only on an EPS and imagination. That's my vote anyway, that we look to a good logo (not particularly this one) instead of text treatments that we've seen on action sites all over the net.

DG: I really like that logo - its got movement, a ball shape and some P shaped things. I think that something would really work well we need to think about how the logo will fit in with the layout and something that can be kept nice and small would keep the top area of the page good and short leaving more room for the actual meat of the site. Some to think about anyway.

Emps

Nice DG! Love it!
No more to say...

Softhead

Looks good DG! And I agree that something more logo-like, rather than just a heading for the page is good way to go.

Though aren't swirly shapes very cliché and overused in anything web related?
Still, you used them in a good way.

DG:

I love that last one! I like the yellowish color of the first two for the circle thingy. Incorporating them both would be cool. You know leaving the text blueish and then the circle graphic the yellowish color. Could be a nice color scheme for the site.


This is really starting to take off like a rocket! I'm excited!!!!!

C:\

DarkGarden - love it!

DG, that shape was perfect

DG... it's not that great.

I think DG's logo gets a big thumbs up (apart for taxon's attempt to rain on the parade) but that shouldn't stop you from throwing in your own ideas for a logo or playing with the symbol snd incorporating it in your logo.

More ideas?

Emps

Good one , Peter. ( both the logo, and the point. ) Thinking cap is returned to the On position.

Simple is not one of my strong suits. I can feel my brain starting to sweat already...

Dg: nice like the first one, because it's nice and clean. That?s what I am trying to head for as nice clean style.



Chris C

DS: It does fit with the cleaner look you were working on. As some of the images you used were copyrighted (weren't they) it would make sense to replace them with something homegrown.

Emps

Whooo. Nice DG. I think that is definately much more in the vein of what we need. Something solid...something flexible, easily integrated. Looks good flat but could easily be made 3D as well. Could be easily animated, etc...

I definatley think the PS background grid needs to be a large part of the page design.

I also think we need to avoid the blatant trendwhore crap with the 45 degree angles and black/white/red color schemes and all.

I find it very appropriate that blue and orange figure into the design...

Things have gone a little quiet here so I've been playing with CorelDRAW and was using DG's logo as a simple graphic to learn about creating vectors. The end product isn't perfect (far from it) but if it will kick start things here I can export it as a PSD or AI (coloured or just the vectors). Anyone interested? They'd probably have to tweak it to get it looking the way DG intended or take it and make something different.

Just a thought - I presume DG doesn't mind!!

Emps

Actually Emps, I don't mind at all, but I already have the AI and EPS formats posted at the salvagion site for download. I had forgotten to throw the link up earlier.
http://salvagion.com/pong/pspong/pong_logo.zip

They're both in there, and were the basis for the original.

Peter

DG: Excellent thanks for making those available (and thanks for retrospective permission to play with the logo - it was very helpful) - perhaps this might inspire more people to play with the design or do their own thing. I'm sure the Doc would like to see more logo and more layout ideas.

Emps

Yeah, we should see some more, but DG's example is pretty sweet. Very cool.

thought i'd give it a bash



I try to take just one day at a time but lately several days have attacked me at once !

Put those rings from the middle one on the two outer ones. I like those better than the middle one. Pretty kick-ass.

go ahead....touch it.....play....

bzzzzt - lol
original - ZIPY wippy

original psd was created then colours were played with
later all


I try to take just one day at a time but lately several days have attacked me at once !

im such a tonsil

link to larger logo here

final - ZIpPY wiPpy


I try to take just one day at a time but lately several days have attacked me at once !

Hmm..still a bit too complex guys.

I'm not saying that my way is THE way..but let's think of branding in the long run. A logo should be something that can be reproduced in one or two colours, easily recognizable, simple, and cohesive. Any sort of layer effects, bevelling, lighting tricks etc. should be able to be broken down and degrade well shade by shade. This shouldn't be an attempt to "show what I can do to put a shine on this lettering."

It's nice work..honestly..good use of layers, shapes, and depth..but the simplicity is taking a beating. Remember that someday you might want PSPONG letterhead (uh...sure) and with that in mind, it should be cheap to print, and fit a nice vector format eeeeeasily.

Keep going with the ideas, I think they're looking good..but drop the need to "trick out" your shapes...let them have strength and presence by themselves first.

*slaps forehead*

me thinks - me thinks DG is right

Doh!!





I try to take just one day at a time but lately several days have attacked me at once !

Minkies: I think DG is right that the early versions of the logo should be kept simple and it can be made fancy at a later date and you have done well producing that simple version. I can picture a nice rotating animation on a Flash version of that (if we do have FlashPong, IllustratorPong, then it might be cool to have the logo done in the different formats, if you get my drift). I really like that and hope it inspires others - you see DG can be challenged at his own game!!

Emps

Game?

I think maybe there's a bit of bluster blowing here, can't say as I consider design a "game"...but then I suppose I don't consider my career a sport either.

Minkies: Nice work, much more on target...now how about giving it some motion? Right now it lacks a bit of movement, how about working in some angular rotation so it seems less static?

DG: Bluster? I think you have me bang to rights on all those definitions (hell it looks like I should put blustering on my CV/resume I do it so often) but I thought a bit of bluster might be what was required to get the more graphically able inmates to contribute some more ideas after your fantastic ideas stunned people into drooling silence (apart from a few oohs and aahs). I could have accused everyone of being 'cowardly custards' but I know such strong language is frowned upon.

I suspect we should try and make a few definitions to avoid confusion (mine mainly I suspect):

Logo: The symbol for the site that can appear in different forms.

Title: The main graphic across the top of the page.

This way we may decide on a title graphic while still debating the logo or vice versa and people should think of submitting one or both.

Emps


You're my wife now Dave

Uh..so you want to design a page title graphic without using the logo?

I'd say that they should come along at the same pace, or rather work the logo FIRST, as the typography will depend on the design and use thereof.

We are worrying about having integrated and relevant typography, yes?

Remember, this needs to be coded incredibly well...BUT it needs to be designed in proper fashion and paying attention to each minute detail of the design process and effective aesthetic as well.

Sorry emps, but I really can't agree on divergences in the design structure.


[This message has been edited by DarkGarden (edited 12-14-2001).]

DG: I wouldn't dream of such a thing - I just thought it was wise to get the terms right. Most of the early attempts at a logo here were actually for titles (although I liked that screaming burning ball idea). It was actually my hope that this might refocus efforts on a logo which might then help with the design of the title graphic. I suspect you are one of the best people here to cheerleading this kind of development (although I suspect the uniform wouldn't suit you) as you have a natural touch for this kind of thing.

Hope that explained what I was aiming at better - it doesn't matter how well its coded if the look and branding is wrong (it would make the difference between something we'd use as an adjunct to the forum and something that could be a runaway success).

Emps


You're my wife now Dave

MInkies.....NIce LOgo!!! BUt, I like more....the textured logo......It's better than the black and white one....(my view)


...LIVE TO LEARN...

[This message has been edited by bramer (edited 01-12-2002).]

really cool thingies

~starts thinking..... "hmmm, no no, stop that head, i wont give this a shot, i have exams"