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Atlas Shrugged - Ayn Rand (spelling probably wrong)

This wonderful book changed my entire perspective on life and showed me how by never lying and always being honest there is really no reason to hide or fear anyone. Even the most powerful and deceitful people alive, who would only threaten you out of fear of honesty.

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the Lord of the Rings

do i need to say more?

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Aye, while LotR was a mighty fine bookb series, I can't say it's my favorite.

'The Dark Tower' Series, by Stephen King. Roland is my hero... and you can't get any cooler than Oy.

njuice42
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There's no way I could gell this down to one pick.. There are way too many good books out there. But here are a few that I thoroughly enjoyed:

The Pern series by Anne McCaffrey
The Saga of the Pliocene Exile by Julian May
The Foundation series and Robot series by Isaac Asimov
The Ringworld books by Larry Niven
The Legion of Videssos series, Worldwar, Contact, and Great War series by Harry Turtledove
The True Game Trilogy (King's Blood Four, Necromancer Nine, Wizard's Eleven) by Sheri S. Tepper
To Ride Pegasus by Anne McCaffrey
Neverwhere by Neil Gaimon

o.k.. that's just a few off the top of my head. Way too many books to ever pick a favorite.



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Oh yeah, The Dark Tower series is great. Speaking of that, isn't it about time for another installment? I have to say that the first book and the latest book Wizards and Glass were my favorites.

I need me Roland fix!

LOTR ayup

Gaiman is a god.


That is all.

does the book have to be a story book?

edit: I alwasy liked Dracula, and sphere was good too...

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Gotta go with Veneficuz and VP. Tolkien is my hero (and has been since long before the movies came out).

favorite? couldn't possibly....

While Tolkein has held a very special place in my heart since the age of 10 or so, and always will, I can't really say that LOTR is my favorite. It's like a bible to me, or greek myth....more ingrained than read.

Catch 22...
Catcher in the Rye...
Breakfast of champions...
Cat's Cradle...
A Wrinkle in Time...
Skinny Legs and All...
Through the Looking Glass...
Farenheit 451...
The Things They Carried...

Those are the types I would pull my favorite from were I to have one.

DL-44- Thats a great list. Ive read almost everything on it and loved all of them!

Withren- The Great War series by Turtledove is one my favorites.

To all the Tolkien fans, Id like to add The Silmarillion. Even though its a harder read I still love the book.

Some of my other favorites are:

Dune by Frank Herbert
The Count of Monte Cristo by Alexandre Dumas
Tai-Pan by James Clavell
Musashi by Eiji Yoshikawa
Taiko by Eiji Yoshikawa
Ulysses by James Joyce
Red Storm Rising by Tom Clancy


-tiki, cell 478

Funny you should mention The Silmarillion tiki, I literally finished it less then an hour ago! I started it Thursday afternoon and read straight through till today. As you said though, it is a hard read. I swear it took me two times over for each sentence just to get the story straight! Anyway though, I would recomend that over the LOTR series, although I suppose LOTR's has historic value. I've actually had the book since Spring Break, I just haven't had a free moment to read it.

As for favorite books I would recomend anything by Tolkien, although I try to get away from the LOTRs. I read Unfinished Tales a few days ago, that was great. I read a lot of Political Science books, I doubt many of you would be too interested in them. I did buy First Son today while I was at Borders, that looks promising.

-Jestah
Cell 277

Since I was a kid, To Kill a Mockingbird.

It's funny I don't own a copy...

The Deathlands book series by James Axler
'The Wolf and The Raven' by Diana L. Paxson
'Wolfwalker' by Tara K. Harper
'All Creatures Great and Small' by James Herriot (love all of his books.)
'Nightmares and Dreamscapes' by Stephen King
'The Vampire Armand' by Anne Rice
'People of the Wolf' (don't have the writers name...)




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zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance -- robert m. pirsig
ham on rye -- charles bukowski
lolita -- vladimir nabokov
a clockwork orange -- anthony burgess
the stranger -- albert camus
get in the van: on the road with black flag -- henry rollins
the shock of the new -- robert hughes
a confederacy of dunces -- john kennedy toole
do androids dream of electronic sheep? -- philip k. dick
snow crash/diamond age/cryptonomicon -- neal stephenson
dune -- frank herbert

there are so many more...

With a place full of net geeks I'm supprised this wasn't mentioned sooner...

Neuromancer - Gibbson.

DL-44 when did you read A Wrinkle in Time?

Dune was a goody...

njuice i forgot to mention, the D-Tower series owned... And that gunslinger was a goody....

The Shining was GOOOOOOD... And IT...

Personally, I think LOTR is too over-rated now...

Wolfen: ...that would be The People of the Wolf by W. Micheal Gear & Kathleen O'Neal

...and in the same vein

Jean Auel (Clan of the Cave Bear, etc.) has a new one out at last : The Shelters of Stone

Oh I almost forgot. My fav science fiction series when I was in highschool:

The Four Quarter Series by Tanya Huff.

Oh and Pratchett.

When? uh......was like 10 or 12 the 1st time.......

I always thought that was like, a kids book... But since you mention 10-12, that explains it... I read it in school in 6'th grade for a project, it was pretty good for a kids book... IMO

Ok, now that I have had time to think....

Interview with a Vampire and The Vampire Lestat were some goodens as well, 2 of m fav's

edit: actually all of the books in Anne Rice's "The Vampire Chronicles" were goodens...

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tikigod: The Silmarillion is truly a great book, I've got to agree with you there. I know it's not technically part of Lord of the Rings, but I've always considered it a part. Personally, I love the whole idea behind the Ainulindalë--music as creation. Wow. It's been a while since I've read the Silmarillion. I've got to get back to the basics.

There are plenty of 'kids' books that are very good. Let's not forget that the Hobbit was a kids book. I still hold the chronicles of narnia in very high esteem as well.

The Book of the New Sun (actually a series of four books) by Gene Wolfe.

DigitalUbiquity

What I meant when I said LotR was actually all of three of the books (the Hobbit, LotR and Silmarillion), haven't found anything as good as them yet. The Dune series are good as well as are the Dark Tower series. But I think that the other Stephen King books are better than the Dark Tower series.

Two other great books/series is the Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy by Douglas Adams (funny no one has mentioned it before) and the Otherland series by Tad Williams.



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The Hitcher was a good book... Also a good movie,

DL-44: I agree to that, I just finished reading "The Terrorist" By Caroline B. Cooney like, a mounth ago, it was pretty interesting, it was a mystery about a bombing in london, pretty good mystery for a kids book I think.

I love The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy, and Fragments by (err...I forgot)

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Krets!

Alright, someone else interested in the DT series! Sweet...

Here's what I know. He's got two more in the series slated for release in 2003 (yeah, two in one year? The usual 5 year wait is gone? Let's overdose, eh?). The first, and fifth installment, will be called 'The Wolves Of Calla', the second and sixth, "Song Of Susanna". Looks like inspiration has really struck Mr. King this time 'round, and we're gonna be benefitting like none other. I hope.

Just a sidenote, he's already written the Prologue for book 5, 'Wolves', and posted it on the net. A bit of a read, but not hardly enough! Check it out here and have your thirsts just upped ten fold... I did.

I want a Billybumbler like you wouldn't believe.

njuice42
icq 957255

Absolute favorite :

The initiate, The Outcast, The Master (the Timemaster series by Louise Cooper)

Followed by
The entire Dune series (Frank Herbert)
LotR (but of course...)
Larry Niven (everything...just everything...)
The Dark Tower (Stephan Kings masterpiece...if he ever finishes it...)
Tad Williams (love his Otherworld series)
William Gibson (and I mean everything)
David Brin (the Uplift war)
Robert Jordan (the Wheel of time)
Michael Moorcock (nobody writes such fallen heroes as he does...and Elric rules!!!)

And so many others...just too long to list here...

flashtounge: Thanks for findin the author names. I will check out Clan of the Bear too. I am just getting interested into 'The People of..' series.



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Ok, I have a confession to make.

I've never read LOTR or the Hobbit.

~sigh~

There! I said it. I don't know why I've never read them. I've tried to. Several times. I just get bored before I got stuck into it I suppose.

Are they really worth the read or am I just better off watching the movies?

I used to love reading Allan Poe's short stories when i was younger......

My avorite book ever ''Vivir amar y aprender'' (Living, Loving and Learning, by Leo Buscaglia) I can read it over and over again....

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Lala

Drac: what is wrong with you? What kind of question is that?! Read the books. The movie was only as good as it was (imo) because I knew the underlying story that isn't anywhere *near* fully covered by the film.

And the animated ones suck, aside from 'The Hobbit'.

There is a depth of story and character development to this series that you simply will not find anywhere else. These aren't mere 'novels'....

I'm glad to hear that Dark Garden loves Neil Gaimen. He is one of my favorites right now.

Neverwhere was awesome. I am reading American Gods right now and it is very good. His writing is awesome.

Anyone every read Irvine Welsh? He is the one who did Trainspotting. . . His books are really good. check out Filth

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~Binary is best~

My favorite book changes with time...though there are a few that always remain high on the list.
My current favorite (mostly 'cuz I'm in the middle of reading for about the 10th time) is Snow Crash by Neil Stephenson.

Always near the top of the list:
Art of War / Sun Tzu
Crucifix in a Death Hand / Charles Bukowski
Another book I couldn't possibly remember the name or author of, but is the best damn authority on gardening I've ever seen in my life.
Vegan Eating / ??? (keeps my belly full with things from my garden)
Crime and Punishment / Fyodor Dostoevsky ( in some ways, I'd have to say this is the best book I've ever read...not necessarily my favorite, but the best.)

I'm sure there are more...too many...

mobrul

Ahh, just remembered a book I read in a college English course, Brave New World... also a very good book.

Also, the Imajica series by Clive Barker. Very well written... and... trippy, I suppose one would say.

njuice42
icq 957255

Shaman: I liked the Otherworld Series by Tad williams but I love his other series- Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn

Veneficuz: Thanks for reminding me about the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy. I think Ill re-read that tonight.

I agree with DL-44 A Wrinkle Time and the Chronicles of Narnia may be childrens books but they are still great.

-tiki, cell 478

I don't really have a favorite book. Matter of fact I dont have a favorite book, food, color, or movie.
Vagrant Viking by Peter Freuchen is a good book. That guy was a real hero in my opinion. Also Piers Anthony wrote a bunch of good sci-fi fantasy stuff. Theres lots of great books out there.




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Oh DigitalUbiquity said 'Gene Wolfe'...the chronicles of the new sun...What a series...but who is the 'green man'?

Kiddie books? Mother west winds...love them all...even now *sigh* and 'my side of the mountain' Man, I always dreamed of doing that...

And 'the last mohican' was also good...

my fav - The Long Walk - Stephen King

LOTR is a definate classic.
Ringworld
Foundation Series
Death Gate Cycle - Margarette Weis and Tracy Hickman
Reality Dysfunction Series- Peter F. Hamilton
Hitchikers Guide to the Galaxy - need i say more
1984
H.P. Lovecraft, Poe, philosophy tomes

Dark Tower 5 is due out this fall i believe.

Ice Station by Matthew Reilly
The Clan of the Cave Beer by Jean M. Auel
Lord of the Rings by JRR Tolkien
King Rat by James Clavell
Time by Steven Baxter
Contest by Matthew Reilly
The Valley of Horses by Jean M. Auel
Shogun by James Clavell
Space by Steven Baxter
Origin by Steven Baxter
Temple by Matthew Reilly

Oh, and everything ever written by Gary Larson

When I can see further, it means that I am standing on the shoulders of giants. - Newton

"The Stand" Stephen King

I love Ice Station, Ramses


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Lord of the rings, naturally even though it took me 11 years to get through it
I gave up on the Silmarillion
Dune
Time enough for love (Heinlein rules)
Everthing Azimov
Magician (frederic feast)
A matter of honour (Jeffrey Archer) - trust me, it's excellent as are most of his books
The pirates - these were from infant school but I still remember them 30 years on


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If Morph is think about the ' Magician' book that is about a little boy named Pug the author is Raymod E. Feist. Just thought it would be strange if two authors had almost the same name and published a book with the same name so I figured I would mention it. But anyway all of the Raymond E. Feist series are great and the books he wrote with Janny Wurst are also good, but not as good as the Riftwar Saga imo.

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i read a series of books years ago as a kid and i loved em they were a fantasy series about a leper who had a white gold ring and was a hero in this land he kept slipping in and out of,if anyone else has read the series and can remember the name let me know i would love to get them again.

these were published about *cough* erm 18 years ago

Tomeaglescz, the series was called The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant the Unbeliever and the author is Stephen R. Donaldson. It was a good series, but I did get a little tired near the end of the series with the character continuing to disbelieve that this place he would get transported to was real. And I think the author was running out of inventive ways to conk out his protagonist at the start of each book so he could be transported to the other realm. Still in all, a good series.

Question: If it wasn't for the movie, would we all be praising Tolkien and the entire LOTR series right now?

I don't mean to question anyone reading the books before the movies were shot but it seems now its just the cool thing to read Tolkien. I spend a lot of time over at Borders and Barnes and Noble and it just seems like the biggest displays are the LOTR & StarWars (another thing that gets me mad). It just seems like reading Tolkein is the cool thing to do.

I just think its funny when things like Lord of the Rings, StarWars, and Ozzy Osborne turn into mainstream, teen idol, pop-star public figures. Can't Hollywood leave us nerds alone?

-Jestah
Cell 277

Veneficuz: whoops, you're right, dont know where 'frederic' came from

Jestah: I finished reading LOTR 11 years ago and still rank it as proberbly the no.1 book I've ever read, but since the film has come out I know of one or two people who bought the books and started reading them but gave up. you gotta want to read it.


~We're not here for long, we're here for fun~

witherin...

Thanks a million! yup i remember that it got a bit monotonous or repetative in places but dang that was a long time ago, didnt think anyone would remember it. (runs off to the books store to get me some of the white gold wielder..oh shit i am in czech republic...waits for holliday back home in uk)

as far as tolkien goes i have been reading his stuff sine i was 16 some 22 years ago, and have got just about every title of his in different versions, i think it has cool factor at the moment for some people but when you consider that LOTR was started in 1937 and published just after WWII its amazing that people still read it and go to the cinema to watch it. I loved silmarillion and his other books, the detail and history he made to supplement his own writing is amazing. the films will come and go the books will survive this "cool to read tolkien" phase. I found the film a bit dissapointing to be honest although fairly accurate and only one or two cases wherethings happened which never appeared in the book (quite big ones if you know the books, for example frodo and aragorns talk just before the orcs attack towards the end, and sam nearly drowning). LOTR is a book you can immerse your imagination in and transporting something like that to the film media i dont think will ever really work. i enjoyed the film but like i said it was a bit of a dissapointment.

Also if the film brings new readers to tolkiens work thats cool, but as has been said its not something that is picked up and read very quickly, it can be heavy going



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Well Jestah, LOTR was the first 'real' series that I read...way back then...I was 7 or 8 at the time...and since then I've re-read the series 9-10 times...so no, my reading and loving the books doesn't come from the film...or the hype.

I'm just one of those bizarre Tolkien nuts...and my feet are furry...how about yours?

WS hehehe welcome to my little home its the one with the bright yellow round door, nod my feet are hairy too and i am a "Proudfoot"....uh oh....there's a bloke at the door with a long white beard and a group of little blokes with him...guess i better go find out what they want, if ya dont hear from me for a while its because i've been "There and back again"



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how come no one said anything about raymond e feist book's ?

Morph menitioned the Raymod E. Feist books a couple of post back...

I think that the LOTR movie is as good as it can get with todays technology etc. A movie can never aquire the same depth as is in the book. They did a good job picking out the important parts from the book and they translated it into moving pictures as good as one can except imo. The only real thing I miss in the movie is Tom Bombadil

The great thing about the LOTR books is that you find some new detail every time you read it, there is always something more in them.

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the stand - stephen king

Simply the best book (and best movie as well) - The Godfather by Mario Puzo

I guess I'm surrounded by a bunch of guys... No one's mentioned 'The Mists of Avalon' byt Marion Zimmer Bradely. A unique and wonderful take on the Arthurian legend...

Feist is good. I liked the whole Magician series.

LotR, is of course, a classic, and while the movie was EXCELLENT! (And I wait with baited breath for the 2nd and 3rd releases) the book is almost ALWAYS better. Tolkien had an amazing imagination.

I also like Richard Adams (Watership Down, Maia, Shardik), and Sherri Tepper creates the most real worlds (Six Moon Dance & Singer of the Sea are her most recent)

Neil Gaiman's Sandman comics are the BOMB, and if you haven't, read the collaborative effort, 'Good Omens' he did with Terry Pratchett (also a sci fi mastermind...)

Hmm... good reading... Just love books! Almost as much as graphics...

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well my favorte books are Russian that r not translated I also enjoy short stories of Leo
Tolstoy......Like "How much land Does man need" But somehow I find American sci-fi
kind of sily and boring..ex: star wars has intresting elements but overall childish story plot... Dont get pissed on me I am just giving my reason. I woul like to find out if there anything really intresting out there that doesnt include spaceships.
...I have read all six graphical novels of japanies "Akira" and found it one of most well writen sci-fi sories where they didnt had all that mumbo jummbo.....
And I keep hearing bout Dark Tower can anybody describe it...

Heh. Yes, Jestah, Tolkein was unheard of before the movie.

If not for the movie, he would have faded away into obscurity and nobody would be reading his work or talking about him

People talk about his work so profusely because they are timeless classics on par with the illiad and the odyssey.

And it's been 'the cool thing to do' for decades.

I remember when I saw the Burger King ad for happy meal Lord of The Rings toys. It just made me want to cry.

Weren't happy meals from McDonalds? They don't have them over here, so I can't remember exactly.

And as for Tolkien suddenly becoming popular because of the movie, DL hit the nail on the head. Yes, a lot more people were introduced to his works through this movie (including a lot of my friends over here), but there was (and always will be) a very strong cult following.

Doctor Jest says: Favorite book(s)? Hmm...guess that would have to be: 1. Dragonriders of Pern Series by Anne McCaffrey. 2. The Moon is A Harsh Mistress/Number of the Beast by Robert A. Heinlein. 3. Just about anything by JRR Tolkien. 4. Pavane (though I can't for the life of me, remember the author's name, very good book tho.) and 5. Anything by Douglas Adams. (That's the list for now, though I am sure I have many more favorites, I can't recall them at the moment.)

Doctor Jest

Surely you Jest? Well, even if you don't, you will eventually...

yeah... misthics , fantasy , words , sci-fi,...
how about values , how about LIFE , how about Friendship & how about Remarque?

And the point, dc_clau? (I'm sure there's one in there...somewhere...).

Go the Anne McCaffrey! I love all the pern series, except Renegades of Pern, never could get into that one.

Anne McCaffrey
Terry Pratchett
David and Leigh Eddings

The three great fantasy writers of our time for the average reader.

Koan 63, written on the wall of cell number 250:
Those who Believe
Can
Those who Try
Do
Those who Love
Live

hehe , the point...
sticky , right?
go for it...
good luck :0)

well , ``All Quiet On The Western Front``is one of my favorites ,
also ``Three Comrades`` or ``L`Arc De Triomphe``
and so on...
(sorry 4 my bad english , eastern-europe,you know)


dc_clau :0)

My favioute book is Sally Mally

Someone pumped life back into this thread....

Well no one has mentioned The Inferno by Donte which was an awsome book.

Dante Insider...Dante. Sheesh! Look at the cover for Gods Sake.

And if Inferno is your favorite book then the Asylum's Philosophy Forum may not be the only reason your Mom is trying to screen "that there Satanic stuff" from you. I mean damn, dude, you just told everybody to shut the beep up in another thread then you post (paraphrase)-

"My favorite book is Dante Alighieri's in-depth tour of Lucifer's crib..."

I've tried to stay off the Insider's an Idiot bandwagon , but...Shheesh!...you really need to get the filter between your brain and your mouth (or in this case your fingers) checked cause it aint workin'.

-tiki, cell 478

edit- the usual tikiTypos



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With out a doubt,

The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy,

By Douglas Adams.
May he rest in Peace.

Maskkkk




- Face the Present

Yes tiki,

"My favorite book is Dante Alighieri's in-depth tour of Lucifer's crib..."

Thats exactly what I said

Read the posts above you stupid fuck, glad you contributed to the "Get InSiDeR a Life" fund as well.

If you knew me as well as you thought you did, you know I am more then fascinated with hell, satan, and apocalyptic subject matter, and my mother knows that as well, but she also know's I am an athiest and that I don't believe in a fucking word of that, but then theres the thought of "wait, what if he is satanic," that made my mom worried.

And yea, you corrected me, it's Dante, and that book was written in the Rennaisannce time period, you can probably correct me on Rennaisannce too. I happen to be a part of a socialy involved school group called the acedemic team, its where some people get together to pass intelligent questions back and fourth. And about 1/3 of those questions just happen to be related to world known historical literature, and The Inferno just happens to fall into that category.

Now, piss off.


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Oh god...why does this always have to happen?

Why is it when two people on this board get together and express different view-points, it degenerates into a 'fuck you' 'no, fuck you' thing.

Insider: Jesus...calm down. Stop being so defensive and taking everything said to heart. Let some stuff slide, you'll be surprised at the reaction you will get out of it, if you don't jump down the throat of anyone who says anything the least bit critical.

Everyone on the 'Insider's an idiot' bandwagon: Ok...so he's young, so he says some things, sometimes that can sound a bit stupid ir immature...and you blame him for that? He 14 for christ's sake! You were all 14 at one point, and I don't think that you were all mature and fulyl socially developed at that point either. I'll bet you said and did some pretty stupid things then to. You've all made the same kind of mistakes at one point or another...what makes insider any different?

Why doesn't everyone calm down and think rationally for a moment.

What is it that sets this board appart from other boards on the net? Simple...the fact that we co-operate and don't troll, we don't have in-fighting, back-stabbing or bitch sessions behind each others backs, or at least this is the spirit the board was founded in. If you're going to let it disintergrate into something that is no different from every other web board populated by immature little people that can't get over themselves and leave their petty differences and prejudices at the door, I can't see a reason why I should stay here.

I certainly wouldn't want to share my cell space with somebody like that, let alone a large group of them.

Yes skaarj, and you know what else sets us apart? When people like insider (I don't give a shit how old he is) go out of there way to act like a complete ass, we let them know. And the post to which insider replied was simply letting him know. And all in all, it was done rather politely.

So uh, watch the generalizations when addressing the people involved, k?

Ok, after the why does everyone hate me thread, I tried to let things slide, I let a lot of things slide, and that just made me feel worse, I wouldn't care if tiki just said "you know, telling us thats your favorite book wasn't the best idea what with your mom and all," and sure I probably should have just said the first 3 lines and left that post alone. But getting it all out feels great, maybe people will avoid getting too personal with me now.

Not to make it seem like everything I do is right and all, but thanks guys this just feels great.


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Ok DL...I'll watch that in future, although it wasn't to much of a generalisation in saying 'everyone on the "Insider's an idiot" bandwagon', becuase I think it targets specifically the group of people who tell him often that he is an idiot, but that's just me.

Crime and Punishment - The Brothers Karamazov - Dostoyevsky
Mere Christianity - The Screwtape Letters - C.S. Lewis
LOTR - Tolkien
Our Sufficiency in Christ - John MacArthur
My Big Book of Everything - Roger Priddy
Where the Wild Things Are - Maurice Sendak
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas - Hunter S Thompson
Still Life with Woodpecker - Tom Robbins
The Mind of the Maker - Dorothy Sayers

we could be here a while, books good.

wes: I have a copy of To Kill a Mockingbird and don't even like it *that* much

Jason

Skaarjj-

Point taken, The "Insiders an Idiot Bandwagon" comment could be taken as me generalizing about anybody who decides to call him an idiot. Thats not the spirit in which it is intended. I was trying make it understood that I am not one of the people who regularly tells Insider to shut-up. And that this particular course of events irritated me enough that I was going to call him on it.

If this angered or offended you then I'm sorry.

As for the rest of your post :

a) I never once swore in my comments, Insider brought this conversation into the gutter not me.

b) I didnt insult Insider - I only addressed the action that pissed me off. I certainly didnt call him a stupid @#$^ like he called me.

c) I didnt back-stab. I had a problem with him and I told him.

d) I am certainly not a troll. It should also be obvious from my tremendous post count that I am not seeking to be the center of attention. I put in my 2 cents every now and then but I am not asking to be the center of the universe.

e) If I give off the vibe that I am one of those:

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immature little people that can't get over themselves and leave their petty differences and prejudices at the door

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please tell me and I'll try to correct it. Last time I checked I wasn't, but, hey, I could be wrong.

f) As for Insiders age: Your right. The spirit of this community is courtesy and cooperation. Maybe he should go sit at the kids table until he learns better manners.

Listen man, I do not want to be the one responsible for making you leave the board. If my comments made you THAT angry then tell me whats eating you and we'll work it out.

Insider-
I am not going to continue this conversation with you on the board. If you want to work this out like a grown-up here is my email:

nwilets@morris.com

If you say things like "you stupid @#$%", you probably won't get a quick response.

-tiki, cell 478

edit-traditional tikiTypos



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So my favorite books are Le Petit Prince by Antoine de St Exupery, Anarchitecture: Architecture is a Political Act by Lebbeus Woods, Perelandra by CS Lewis and this is embarassing, but: The Walking Drum, by Louis L'amour. Also Cerebus by Dave Sim is interesting, and The Sandman by Neil Gaiman is very good.

So anyway I like simple things, because I'm dumb and slow, and all these books(except perelandra and walking drum, and i read those when I was young and smart and fast) are full of pretty pictures which only take a second to figure out what they mean. Like in le petit prince when you see the picture of a rose on a planet you know its beautiful and sad and lonely and proud and loving and cruel and all the other things a rose are in a split second and you don't have to spend a whole page having some bozo smart ass trying to tell you what you already know.

"this is a sad story, as all stories of middle earth are."

(ppsssttt - skaarjj, that's obviously *not* the comment I was referring to).


Would also like to add that To Kill a Mockingbird and All Quiet on the Western Front are two more that should have been on my list above.



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Well Tiki, apology accepted, and my apologies to you.

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And the post to which insider replied was simply letting him know.

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Well really the meaning of tiki's post was to let me know that it was stupid to say that The Inferno was my favorite book, when really I didn't say that. It was his awkward sense of interpretation that made him think that I said it was my fav. but I don't know why he would when I clearly stated it was an "Awsome," book not my favorite.

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Ok then...

tiki: I'm sorry aobut that. DL was right, I should be more specific. I wasn't counting you (or really that many members) as someone who fits the definition of

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immature little people that can't get over themselves and leave their petty differences and prejudices at the door

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But you must admit that the image of the asylum would drop if there are threads about full of f**k you, f**k you exchanges. Abuse like that really has no place here, and to an outsider who doesn't know of the p[ersonalities of people on thiw board would see it as petty bickering, and bickering like that is a major sign of immaturity. Ok...so I apoligise if I accidentally picked up people who didn't deserve it in my gross generalisations. I really must learn to be more speicifc when I rant.

No prob Skaarjj...I pretty much did the same.

I agree with you. It would be nice if people could debate their points without reducing the conversation down to the level of a f#@k you session. I dont care if they agree. But a little respect for one another would be nice.

And, hell, if you gotta throw barb - be creative. I've seen some inmates write great negative replies without having to cuss up a storm.



[This message has been edited by tikigod (edited 07-26-2002).]

No real favourites but there are a number of authors who I like such as Douglas Adams, Terry Pratchett, R. A. Salvatore (loved the Dark Elf trilogy), Thomas Hardy, Robert Ludlum, Tom Clancy. I also like a lot of non-fiction - Richard Dawkins & Stephen Jay Gould, essay collections, history, etc. The Physics of Star Trek was a classic

The best book I've read recently would have to be Good Omens by Terry Pratchett and Neil Gaiman.

Personally, my thoughts on the f**k you sessions go: You have an opnion. That other person has an opinion. They are different. Get over it.

Koan 63, written on the wall of cell number 250:
Those who Believe
Can
Those who Try
Do
Those who Love
Live

LOL - I agree.

I can't believe I've finally found a community filled with digital artists who are literate AND love to read. I think I feel tears coming on. . .

-Dune
-LotR
-To Kill a Mockingbird
-Lord of the Flies
(there are so many that I like. . . and a ton that I hate this list could go on for a long time. . . so ya)
-A Wrinkle in Time (great book. read it many times. y'all know it is the beginning of a series right?)
(while we're on younger fiction
-All of William Slater's books. . . I can't find a link but some examples are - The House of Stairs, Others See Us, Interstellar Pig, Singularity
-Wizard's Hall. . . this again is one I'm not so sure about. The title may be wrong. About a boy who goes to a school for wizards (long before mr. potter arived on the scene) but finds he has no talent. realizes later that his tallent is making other wizards' talent stronger

For some strange, very strange reason, I thought Lord of the Flies the movie was better than the book, and I read the book first and completely understood it, but the movie just seemed, a bit, better.


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Prying open my third eye.

Hey guys havent been around in a while but since I am starting school soon again decided to start dropping by more. .. . ..

Id have to say my fav book [since i was a kid] is Le Petite Prince [the little Prince] - Antoine De Saint Exupery
Its a really good kids book but has alot of Adult themes underlined in its text ...

".. Silence : the most deafening sound of them all."

I just thought this needed repeating:

"Personally, my thoughts on the f**k you sessions go: You have an opnion. That other person has an opinion. They are different. Get over it."

Oh, and Neuromancer still rocks...

Woohoo! I made a saying worth repeating!

Koan 63, written on the wall of cell number 250:
Those who Believe
Can
Those who Try
Do
Those who Love
Live

hmm

no mention of Ender's Game?



.:[ Never resist a perfect moment ]:.

Ender's Game was good.

I have thoroughly enjoyed all of Anne McCaffery's DragonRider books.

Hmm... Let's See....

David Edding's:
Eleniad(3 books)
Tamuli(3 books)
Belgariad(5 books)
Mallorean(5 books)
Belgarath the Sorcerer
Polgara the Sorceress

Tolkien:
The Silmarillion
LoTR(Hobbit included)
Farmer Giles of Ham(That was Tolkien right?)

Assorted Favorite Author's:
Isaac Asimov
Poul Anderson
Terri Pratchett
Frederick Pohl
Frank Herbert
Ben Bova
Piers Anthony
Douglass Adams
Ray Bradbury
Arthur C. Clark
E.E. Doc Smith
Too many more to list... You get the idea...

I'm currently reading an awesome series by james Clemmens title "The Banned and the Banished"
It's his first series and a very cool spin on the usual fantasy epic.

If anyone has any other authors of Sci-Fi/Fantasy Type books I would appreciate the chance to expand my Library.

GrythusDraconis

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The ElvenBane my Andre Norton and Mercedes Lackey (best book ever, although i don't think it is well known)
(Sequel to the above was great)

Also, in no particular order, all of John Grisham's books. (ie: the client, the firm, etc most were made into movies)

Danny the Champion of the World
by Roald Dahl

Children's books are the greatest.
Even greater is being a child when reading them.

the only book i've ever read to the end is an html book

+-new CELL 557-+

LOL massacre! Start at the top of the list and read the books mentioned in order. Expand your horizons and watch a new day dawn in your awareness.





GrythusDraconis
"Be careful not to anger the Great Dragon for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup" T-Shirt Somewhere

Dune by Frank Hebert
The Dark is Rising, The Green Witch, The Grey King, Silver on the Tree all by Susan Cooper
The Elric Series and The Corum Chronicles by Michael Moorcock
Lord Foul's Bane by Stephen Donaldson

Foucaults Pendulum
When We were young(It's a childrens book, but as I recall, one of the most poignant things I've ever read)
Until We Have Faces
Franny and Zooey
Catcher in the Rye
Rum Punch
Isis Unveiled
The Rum Diaries
....

Skaarj this

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Everyone on the 'Insider's an idiot' bandwagon: Ok...so he's young, so he says some things, sometimes that can sound a bit stupid ir immature...and you blame him for that? He 14 for christ's sake! You were all 14 at one point, and I don't think that you were all mature and fulyl socially developed at that point either. I'll bet you said and did some pretty stupid things then to. You've all made the same kind of mistakes at one point or another...what makes insider any different?

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got me a bit riled, actually.

Yes, it's true that we were all 14 once...however, if I had 'flapped' my gums like that in my neighborhood, I'd have been eating fist on a regular basis. So no, I don't 'blame' him for it...kinda hard to beat the living crap out of someone on the web...but in real life...if he's going around with the same type of attitude, and mouth, I'd be surprised if he wasn't getting a royal *** kicking everyday...and if he does have a different attitude in real life, as compared to here...well, what does that say?

But then, maybe he doesn't live in the type of neighborhood that I did...so hasn't 'learned' that sometimes it's better to just let it slide...and to keep one's mouth shut...but then, that's just me...

Live and let live, yes, but to a point. When it starts to get verbally abusive (what else does one have on the web?), that's where I start drawing the line. Walk it like you talk it.

We now return to our regularly scheduled program...

East of Eden - John Steinbeck



My beats flow in means you can't depict, Unaware to the senses, your mind is played with, the essence of trance as it glides in helix.
The uncognitive Subliminal ReMiXx.

Just finished my (well, at least now it is) favorite book: The Day of the Jackal. Ok, so I read it all last night

Does anyone here like Poe? Damn his novellas were mighty fine...

Fall House of Usher
The Black Cat
The Cask of Amontillado
The Pit and the Pendulum
The Premature Burial
The Masque of Red Death
The Tell-Tale Heart

Well those aren't really books per say, but they are short stories/novellas. Mighty fine...


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Prying open my third eye.

My favourite short story would have to be The Time Machine by H.G. Wells. That's right, it was a short story. Very short, in fact. I didn't realise it was so short until I sat down in the loo to read it and finished it in 30 minutes. Sure I'm a fast reader, but that was just rediculous.

I also like Frankenstein by Mary Shelley, although it is longer than a short story, but shorter than a long story, so I guess it's just a pretty regular-length story. It's still very good.