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krets
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: KC, KS
Insane since: Nov 2002

posted posted 07-19-2003 04:38

Does it disgust anyone else that the media is playing up this Kobe Bryant situation like he's some innocent guy being accused of rape by a money hungry woman? Flowering please. If that was another black man (or man of any color), let's say he was a mechanic earning a middle-class wage, he'd already be rotting away in a prison somewhere.

Why are people feeling so sorry for this flowering moron? Even if it was consentual he's still an adulterer so flower him. Personally, I think he raped her. I think he did it and thought he would get away with it so he told a big lie a few weeks back.

haha And I just heard that in the LA Times last week he was quoted as saying "I didn't do anything wrong. You guys know me, you know my character." hahahaha M-O-R-O-N Adultery is a pretty good personality trait these days is it?

But OOOOPS there's physical evidence and it points to Kobe, so now the little shitebird is singing a different tune. Now he's just another athlete being preyed upon by a greedy vixen. Oh, and how is that? What is she greedy for? What does she stand to gain by being a rape victim? Oh yeah, I bet it's all this positive publicity being thrown her way right? Or maybe she was hoping to jump-start some kind of career in the entertainment business. That would look good on a resume: "Hi, I'm that girl who got raped by a flowering idiot athlete, do you have any parts for someone with those credentials?"

Now he's talking "if I could turn back time." So now all of a sudden he's Cher?

Everyone's worried about Kobe's career, Kobe's endorsements, the Laker's future, blah, blah, blah, blah. Screw Kobe. He's getting what he deserves either way the case pans out.

You flower around where you shouldn't and bad shtuff is bound to happen.

Thoughts?

(edit: cursewords removed to keep JK's innocent ears from burning )

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Emperor
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Cell 53, East Wing
Insane since: Jul 2001

posted posted 07-19-2003 05:15

And Kobe Bryant is who?

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krets
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: KC, KS
Insane since: Nov 2002

posted posted 07-19-2003 05:17

haha Jesus, you really are a computer geek aren't you Emps?

Go take a look at ESPN.com or CNN.com.

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ozphactor
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: California
Insane since: Jul 2003

posted posted 07-19-2003 05:19

Hehe. We are in the Asylum, after all edit: and also, not everyone here lives in the states.


And by the way, Kobe Bryant is a basketball player.


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JKMabry
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: out of a sleepy funk
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted posted 07-19-2003 05:35

thought?

krets swears like a drunken sailor when he talks Kobe. BURN HIM! (krets, not Kobe) Swearing only leads to harder immoralities, watch it mister.

I'd comment but I really dunno much about the situation, sounds big though.

Jason

Emperor
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Cell 53, East Wing
Insane since: Jul 2001

posted posted 07-19-2003 05:56

ozphactor: Ahhhhhh basketball.

krets: I do believe that is a popular game over your side of the pond. A bit like our netball but no where near as nasty.

Now I have established who he is could someone explain:

1. Is krets drunk?

2. Does he (Kobe Bryant) actually think he is Cher (I suspect he doesn't look her)?

3. Why I (Emperor) should care?

4. Does he (krets) actually think he is Cher (I know he doesn't look her.... much)?

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ozphactor
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: California
Insane since: Jul 2003

posted posted 07-19-2003 06:37

I suppose #4 is a result of #1, #2 is no, and #3 is "I have no idea."

Here's the story: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=545&e=3&u=/ap/20030719/ap_on_sp_ba_ne/bkn_bryant_arrested


"Netball", you say? How's that?


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DL-44
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: under the bed
Insane since: Feb 2000

posted posted 07-19-2003 20:01

Emp - "popular" deosn't wuite cover it....basketball players today carry about the public prestige as rap stars...and, unfortunately for everyone involoved, sometimes they attpemt to be both

And yes, I feel that Kobe is guilty as all hell too...it seems to me to be one more case of someone getting a little fame and fortune and thinking they're entitled to walk all over other people's basic human rights.

But then again, it could also be another gold-digger looking to trash someone's name for a little cash.

Who knows...

{{edit - and let me just add that I was awful damn confused about the whole "flowering" thing...until I read JK's post and Krets' edit......}}



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JKMabry
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: out of a sleepy funk
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted posted 07-19-2003 21:52

heh, that's funny. It's too late tho man, I've been deflowered, I'll never be the same.

Jason

Rinswind 2th
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Den Haag: The Royal Residence
Insane since: Jul 2000

posted posted 07-19-2003 23:35

Rapping basketball stars....yes that's it, they must be guilty of something. Lock them up.

And emps Cher is not nearly that handsome as you *cough* *Cough**ghrhrghrhgt*

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Perfect Thunder
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Milwaukee
Insane since: Oct 2001

posted posted 07-20-2003 01:23

Kobe himself attempted to be a rapper maybe five years ago... and was so bad that this current business could just be karma.

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Jestah
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Long Island, NY
Insane since: Jun 2000

posted posted 07-20-2003 05:52

Kobe Bryant is a wealthy, good looking, talented, popular athlete. I haven't heard any convincing arguments from either side suggesting he did or didn't rape her but common sense tells me Kobe Bryant doesn't need to rape a 19 year old girl. I doubt theres a 19 year old girl on the planet who wouldn't love to be with him.

Jestah

Raptor
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: AČ, MI, USA
Insane since: Nov 2001

posted posted 07-20-2003 08:56

I can think of quite a few... not all 19 year old girls are driven by money and sex.

krets
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: KC, KS
Insane since: Nov 2002

posted posted 07-20-2003 09:08

And Kobe has also already proved that he is a wealthy, good looking, talented, popular liar.

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Emperor
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Cell 53, East Wing
Insane since: Jul 2001

posted posted 07-20-2003 15:31

Jestah: I'm afraid the fact that he doesn't have to doesn't mean he didn't - rich and powerful people often think they can get away with anything - remember Tyson? Not an arguement for but.........

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DL-44
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: under the bed
Insane since: Feb 2000

posted posted 07-20-2003 17:37
quote:
but common sense tells me Kobe Bryant doesn't need to rape a 19 year old girl. I doubt theres a 19 year old girl on the planet who wouldn't love to be with him



Unfortunately Jestah, that is exactly the mentality that leads to people like him raping women.

It is not uncommon for 'wealthy attractive successful men' to rape, simply becasue it is a blow to their ego to think that this girl could possibly not want to voluntarily screw him.

Do you feel that you are able to speak for every 19 year old girl out there? I'm quite certainly that there are plenty of them that find people like kobe bryant repulsive.

Of course, like I said before...that doesn't mean he did it either. But his status certainly can't be used as an explanation of why he wouldn't do it....

Lacuna
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From: the Asylum ghetto
Insane since: Oct 2002

posted posted 07-20-2003 22:15

I would like to believe that he wouldn't resort to rape, but it's definitely in the realm of possibility. Just as the girl trying to get either money or publicity or whatever out of this is a possibility. I can't very well be touting his innocence or guilt at this point though, as there's just not enough information available to make such a judgement.
If either one of them were actually *being* the moral, upstanding people they are now claiming to be...this wouldn't have happened.

I do tend to have a problem with statements like this: Article

quote:
"I support her. She didn't know any better. She was a lot younger and naive," said Michelle Ball, 30, who sold Avon beauty products at the fair, about 10 miles west of Eagle.


I'm sorry... but if some celeb is inviting you up to his room... it's pretty safe to assume that it ain't for cake and ice cream. And before anyone gets their knickers in bunch, I'm not saying that, that's justification for him to rape her. I'm am saying that she knew what the hell she was doing....to an extent anyway and she's obviously not the pure innocent girl next door.... unless, of course, he snatched her out of the hallway when she was walking by his room...
but regardless, bottom line... no means no.

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trib
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Den Haag, Netherlands
Insane since: Sep 2002

posted posted 07-22-2003 09:36

Jeezus .. we (the Yanks and the Brits) are in the process of raping an entire country, and have already sacrificed several of their citizens, all good men and women, in the process ... AND at least one of their leaders has been caught out lying about the evidence available at the time ... and both leaders are still looking for solid justification (read a good excuse) after the event. Hell guys .. if the (now ex-) President of the United States of America can commit perjury, lie to the Supreme Court, commit adultery, and conspire with others to pervert the course of justice, and get way with it, why shouldn't a piddly little a basketball player ???

JKMabry
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: out of a sleepy funk
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted posted 07-22-2003 14:57

cheers there trib =)

Jason

Fig
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Houston, TX, USA
Insane since: Apr 2000

posted posted 07-22-2003 17:54

while i'm not a kobe fan i can't say i'm necessarily against the guy at this point as none of us really know what happened. he did at least admit to having sex with the girl (tho after denying it) which is quite a bit more than other celebs we've seen involved in this sort of thing do. the way i see it there's only two people who actually do know what happened, and one of them isn't telling the truth. a simple check of the girl for bruises and other rape indicators, which i'm assuming has already been done, should tell us which person that is.

chris


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Yannah
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: In your Hard Drive; C:
Insane since: Dec 2002

posted posted 07-23-2003 06:21
quote:
A bit like our netball but no where near as nasty.

Emps, do you watch that shit?

I don't give a crap about Mr. Bryant and with his adultery case.

Emperor
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From: Cell 53, East Wing
Insane since: Jul 2001

posted posted 07-23-2003 15:29

Yannah: Only when I was at school - the sight of girls jumping around on the court in their short gym skirts got a lot of us through boring lessons

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bitdamaged
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From: 100101010011 <-- right about here
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posted posted 07-23-2003 18:42

I'm split about 60-40 against Kobe at this point. There's a couple of reasons. The first is that yes a mechanic of any color would be instantly presumed guilty (heck we wouldn't even hear about it probably).

However that being said, there is not a straight parallel between Kobe and a mechanic. Kobe is a prominant public figure, this can severly increase the chances of this being a false accusation for monetary gains.

Even with that said however there's a couple of reasons I believe he may be guilty. First the DA on this case was very patient in collecting evidence and was in fact pissed when the police charged him prior to a thorough investigation. This tends to lead me to believe that the DA made sure he had a case before proceeding with the charges. Whether the case will hold up is a whole other matter.

Ultimately I can't judge there just is not enough evidence out there yet for me to make a real viable opinion.



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beaner
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: LA, CA, USA
Insane since: Apr 2002

posted posted 07-23-2003 22:44

http://www.drudgereportarchives.com/goto/?getPage=http%3A%2F%2Fespn%2Ego%2Ecom%2Fnba%2Fnews%2F2003%2F0720%2F1583145%2Ehtml&return=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Edrudgereportarchives%2Ecom%2Fds p%2Flinks%5Frecap%2Ehtm

Well, if this is true, its not good for the prosecution

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