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Bugimus
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posted posted 08-07-2003 03:53

Schwarzenegger Announces Calif. Gov. Bid

Woohoo!!! Please please please let him win the recall election!!! I can't think of a better novelty to top off our utterly messed up situation here in California. Our current governor has so egregiously mangled our economy that I am in the mood for having Arnold come in if for nothing else just to put a smile on my face after such a mess.

. . : slicePuzzle

Lacuna
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posted posted 08-07-2003 04:07

*sigh* you californians.....



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Bugimus
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posted posted 08-07-2003 04:13



I can just imagine what you all think of us up there

Lacuna
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posted posted 08-07-2003 04:37

we have a theory that if we all jump up and down at the same time, california will break off and float away...but it's hard getting the majority of Alaska, Washington, Idaho and Montana organized

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Emperor
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posted posted 08-07-2003 04:42

Lacuna: Remeber in the first Superman movie? Lex Luthor had a pretty cunning plan which didn't involve everyone jumping up and down at the same time

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Moon Dancer
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posted posted 08-07-2003 04:59

Mangled the economy, Bugs? Isn't that what politicians do best?



velvetrose
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posted posted 08-07-2003 05:01

considering how tolerant the california public is, this guy must have really screwed up!

Moon Shadow
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posted posted 08-07-2003 14:44

Well, to be frank I don't think he would be worse than those crooked politicians, but not better either

What will be interesting to follow is his plans for the elections, and the number of people who will vote for him.

I read somewhere that if California was separated from the USA, it would become the 6th most powerful country in the world. I hope he understands well that and won't play with its economy.

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Jestah
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posted posted 08-07-2003 15:15

This is probably a really bad idea for the Republican party. Although I completely disagree with the recall process, Republicans could run some well qualified candidates. Arnold's going to take time and money away from these serious candidates and ultimately blow it in the end.



Jestah

DL-44
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posted posted 08-07-2003 15:51

The east coast feels safer all of a sudden

Emperor
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posted posted 08-07-2003 16:43

I think I'd rather vote for Gary Coleman:
http://edition.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/08/06/candidate.coleman/

Although with Larry Flint and Leo Gallagher (is there a melon link running through things?) also in the race...........

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Fig
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posted posted 08-07-2003 17:12
quote:
Buel said he had no trouble getting the necessary 65 petition signatures from Independent voters in Alameda County, which he gathered at a recent Oakland A's baseball game.



glad to see they have such strict requirements for those filing to run...

chris


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GrythusDraconis
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posted posted 08-07-2003 17:43

Campaign fees = take 65 friends to ball game $7000.00
Miscellaneous history checks on competition = $10,000
Losing to the Terminator = Priceless

I mean, if you have to lose to someone wouldnt you want to lose to Arnold? I see no reason to think that Arnold will screw up. he seems to be very level headed and capable. Not to mention that he has the capability to bring his own money to the table. he's done it before on movies that have come up short on funding. I see no reason why he wouldn't in something as important as this.


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NoJive
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posted posted 08-07-2003 18:01

Bugs:

quote:
I am in the mood for having Arnold come in if for nothing else just to put a smile on my face



I always take the entertainment factor into consideration when voting. (not really but you know what I mean=) I figure once you elect a dictatorship, for whatever the term is, they pretty much do what they want... so during that time they should at least keep me amused and chuckling.

Arnold 'The terminator' V Jessie 'The Body' Scalpers would make millions.




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Gilbert Nolander
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posted posted 08-07-2003 19:04

Gary "What ya' talking about Willis" Coleman has joined the
running also. Can't wait to see the debate between Arnold and Gary.




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Lord_Fukutoku
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posted posted 08-07-2003 21:12

Only in California...

Wolfen
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posted posted 08-08-2003 02:32

Actually there were a few noted actors that ran for office and did an ok job. If I remember correctly Eastwood was mayor of Monterey for a while. Sonny Bono was republican, was mayor in palm springs (..if I am wrong please correct me..) and was also a senator before he died. Then there was Jesse who was middle of the road in my opinion, though I did vote for him. Also, do not forget Reagan who was an actor, govoner of cali, senator and president for two terms. That is all that I recall at this point. Hell, I say give arnold a chance.

Sure he may not have the best image, depending on how you look at it, but what is the worst he could do? On the surface of his image, he has on the basic level lived the american dream. He came here an immigrant from austria legally, works a job that he likes to do, makes alot of money at it and his fame comes as a part of it. He has an ok family no matter how popular or unpopular some members of it is. The fact that him and his wife have been together this long is a miracle for most hollywood marriages. I think he is a decent guy, give him a chance.

Rameses Niblik the Third
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posted posted 08-08-2003 12:30

And let's not forget the man from showbiz that became the most powerful man on Earth, Ronald Reagan. Of course, Arnie can't be the prez because he's Austrian-born, but you never know...

NoJive
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posted posted 08-08-2003 15:49

Hang on a minute folks. This race could be a whole lot tighter and more entertaining than you might think. Gallagher is also in the running. =)
http://gallaghersmash.com/


Make sure you hear the audio on the splash before entering.


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DL-44
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posted posted 08-08-2003 18:38

My only question at this point is - are any of you actually reading the posts up there^??

About 4 of you so far have announced what has already been announced futher up =)

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Perfect Thunder
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posted posted 08-08-2003 20:16

And hey, did you hear that Arnold Schwartzenegger is running for governer of California? Whoa!

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ozphactor
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From: California
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posted posted 08-09-2003 00:55

<--- *lalalalala*


Yeah, it's in the news everyday here in Cal.

I'm getting sick of it. All it takes to get on the ballot is 65 signatures and a $3500 filing fee. Extra signatures lowers the filing fee, and vice versa.

Over 500 people have gone to pick up paperwork to run for office. Half of them are ordinary people. Ordinary people. Some guy I've never heard of was on the news, and he said his reason for running was, and I quote: "Hey, I think I'm just as good as the next guy." Depends on who the next guy is. And from what I'm hearing, it could be anyone.

Porn stars (who's that girl who drives a pink Corvette?), CEOs of porn magazines (Hustler CEO Larry Flynt), you name it, they're all running...


quote:
Only in California...



Damn straight.

RammStein
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posted posted 08-10-2003 11:12

hey .. we Califorians are alright!!! .. we can get shit done our own way .. fuck having to deal with a Gov that has his head so far up his ass .. we are trapped to strangle his unfortunate upon this states back

what the hell did I just write?


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Lacuna
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posted posted 08-10-2003 18:39

the only thing about this that bothers me is... the guy was voted in... by people who bothered to show up on voting day. correct me if i'm wrong (i know yall will) but the guy hasn't done anything criminal.. he's not snortin lines offa the desk, he's not got interns doing *extra* ....jobs...he's basically just a stupid shit and has really screwed stuff up. if that's the case... then i think he should stay in office til his term is up. if ya still don't like him elect someone else.
dunno...that's just my .02

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Emperor
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posted posted 08-10-2003 18:47

And for those interest in a more 'indepth' investigation can see the profile offered by rotten.com (warning there are pictures of Arnie's genitals and some nudity - nothing outrageous but...):
www.rotten.com/library/bio/entertainers/actors/arnold-schwarzenegger/

they announced it as:

quote:
First in our penii-of-the-candidates series. Next: Arianna Huffington



So before the ladies decide their votes on the other assets of the candidates wait until they focus on Gary Coleman

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lobotomy
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posted posted 08-12-2003 04:39
quote:
the only thing about this that bothers me is... the guy was voted in... by people who bothered to show up on voting day. correct me if i'm wrong (i know yall will) but the guy hasn't done anything criminal.. he's not snortin lines offa the desk, he's not got interns doing *extra* ....jobs...he's basically just a stupid shit and has really screwed stuff up. if that's the case... then i think he should stay in office til his term is up.

But the recall election is part of the process. Just because someone is elected doesn't mean he is guaranteed a full term <cough> Nixon.

As for Arnold! Gimme a break! He's about as Republican as Colin Powell is! The only thing going for him is he's not a LAWYER.



trib
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posted posted 08-12-2003 16:24

Well let's just hope and pray that he doesn't start going the same way as the last Austrian who became a political leader in another country ....

Bugimus
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posted posted 08-14-2003 15:01

While I agree with you, Lacuna, about us sticking with who we vote in, lobotomy is also correct. The recall option is written into our state constitution and is part of our process. Keep in mind that nearly every governor has had recall attempts made on his administration and this particular governor is the only one in California history to have gotten such a popular demand for his head on a platter.

I am so upset with Governor Davis that I want him damaged... personally, professionally, politically, etc. I would almost be willing to throw him into jail for a few years if that were part of the process. But of course much of that is my emotions speaking because he has done so much to hurt this state...

HOWEVER...

I would be remiss if I did not point out that we are a completely democrat controlled state. All the way up and down the political structure we are controlled by democrats. That means that Gray Davis is only part of the problem. Sure he signed all of this over spending into effect but how can we give the democrat legislators a pass? The entire democrat party in this state is to blame for this mess...

MOREOVER...

Why did the republican party run such a pathetic and feeble campaign when we had a chance to turn things around last election? How could that party, of which I am a member, be so incompetent to put up Bill Simon who by all accounts threw away the election with one mistake after another? I don't think there is any excuse for it and it shames me to admit I'm a republican because of it.

BUT HOLD THE PHONE...

Who decided that this state should be run by representatives hell bent on spending far faR fAR FAR FAAARR beyond our ability to pay giving us a $38 Billion defecit??? Who is ultimately responsible for who gets elected in this state? Who votes for bond measures election after election after election? The people of California. We deserve this mess because we asked for it. Part of me wants to see us crash and burn so we can realize how stupid we've been for believing the lies the people we elect shower us with. Power to the people? Sure, yes, of course... but God help us all when we actually get what we ask for

Rant complete now let me say a couple of things about our next Gov. He is not very conservative... he is not very experienced... he will not make all the pain go away... BUT he is bound to do a better job than Davis and he just might be able to oppose the democrat legislature enough to put a cap on some of this spending. In fact, I think it will be his celebrity and popularity that just might be what is needed to make that happen. I am very hopeful the more I hear about his campaign. He is getting some top notch advisors onto his team that will be able to help him make good economic decisions. I understand that the former LA mayor Dick Riordan, former Gov. Wilson, and Warren Buffet are backing up Arnold.

Has the election become a farce? Sure it has. But I plan on getting as much entertainment out of it as I can... after all, this is California

. . : slicePuzzle

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metahuman
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posted posted 08-14-2003 15:17

"The recall, originating in Los Angeles in 1903 and later spreading to the state level and a few other states, is a device by which California voters can petition for a special election to remove any elected official (state or local only, not federal) before their term has expired."

Those who are against the recall and think Gov. Gray Davis, if he wins, should repeal the recall because "it's a bad idea" need to understand California government before they make any prejudices. In addition, the recall is not an impeachment. The recall is handled by the voters whereas impeachment involves power abuse and law-breaking. If convicted, the incumbent would be impeached by the legislatures. Essentially, impeachment is a removal with dishonor.

Mr. Schwarzenegger is a strong classic Republican pro-business candidate. His bull pen includes Warren Buffet, Milton Friedman, Steve Forbes, etc. I'm also tired of non-Californian columnists editorializing on Mr. Schwarzenegger and the California recall. Some of them have crazy notions like "California is turning into a third-world country," "California is the laughing stock of America," "Arnold is just a shoe-in," "the religious right do not want Arnold." I was at a picnic hosted by Congressman Randy "Duke" Cunninigham, a zealot for the religious right (more right-wing than Pres. Bush by a lot), the other day and he stated, "Arnold Schwarzenegger has my vote." He went on to say that Mr. Schwarzenegger is an intelligent man with some great ideas and like Pres. Bush said, "He would make a terrific governor."

I'm going to write an editorial on this issue and try to get it published by the WSJ's OpinionJournal. I'll be able to make a stronger case then.

By the way, Lacuna, the governor's most important job is to submit the state budget to the legislature every January and recommending certain expenditures and estimating revenues. When he did not submit the state budget, not only did he fail his most important and relatively easy job, but he denied his responsibilities as governor to exercise item veto power, to reduce or remove any item in the state appropriations bill. Basically, the governor was supposed to put together the state's financial program. Failure to do so resulted in big losses. Previously noted, a recall does not require the incumbent in question to have done anything illegal. An official can be recalled for nearly any reason even if the majority of constituents dislike the official.

The only people who can disengage the recall to keep the incumbent are the voters opposed to the recall. They need a majority vote against. Disengaging the recall will result in more damage than not disturbing it! Should the recall fail, the state is required to reimburse the official for expenses he incurred in his defense. Why is this a problem? It takes at least a million dollars to gather names and even more money to run a campaign.

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NoJive
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posted posted 08-14-2003 16:30

In case you missed it mark Monday Sept 22nd on the calendar.
Jay Leno has invited all 179 official candidates to be in the audience that night.
talk about the ultimate all-candidates meeting. No no...ultimate Gong show. =)



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Bugimus
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posted posted 08-14-2003 17:08

Amazing. I wonder how many will actually show up.

Rameses Niblik the Third
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posted posted 08-15-2003 05:40

Hell, there's more candidates than there are people that'll actually vote. It's rediculous, I tell you!

Bugimus
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posted posted 08-25-2003 08:52

OK, one step closer to getting the Terminator elected... culling the herd

Bill Simon Drops Out of California Governor Race

We need a couple of more prominant Republicans to drop out and throw support behind Arnold to pull this off. If we don't then we're going to get $10 billion in new taxes accompanied by only $2 billion in spending cuts from Bustamante. Yikes!!!

. . : slicePuzzle

DL-44
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posted posted 08-25-2003 15:32

Just to clarify for metahuman - Impeachment does not in any way mean the removal of the person in question. That can result from an impeachment, but the impeachment itself is simply the accusation/investigation end of things.

C*****n was impeached. He was not removed from office.

Rameses Niblik the Third
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posted posted 08-25-2003 15:38

He Who Must Not Be Named...

Just call him Clint0n, for Pete's sake. What is this fascination you Americans have with him, anyways?



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Lacuna
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posted posted 08-28-2003 10:11

for those of us who don't get to see this on tv, i thought i'd share with the rest of the group
Arnie For Gov. Commercial

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Schitzoboy
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posted posted 08-28-2003 15:27

I suppose after Arnold wins we could call the election a Total Recall

Bugimus
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posted posted 08-28-2003 18:28

GO ARNOLD!!!

Wangenstein
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posted posted 08-28-2003 22:50

1) How is Bustamante any different from Davis? The two have been in office together for the past five years, and I haven't once heard of Bustamante denouncing anything Davis has done.

2) I recently read that Arnold has signed up the teacher who was the inspiration for "Stand and Deliver" to come and advise him on education issues. The guy will be coming back to Bolivia to do it. Pretty cool. That's the point: Arnold seems to have some common sense and a circle of knowledgable people around him to help.

RammStein
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From: cEll 513, west wing of the ninth plain
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posted posted 08-29-2003 01:04

well Arnold certainly wont be the first "hollywood" in office .. good ol' Reagan .. I like Arnold .. I once saw him just strolling down 3rd Street Promenade in Santa Monica .. with his wife and an advisor I'm sure .. but he was just walking along .. saying hi hear and there .. this was like a year or two ago .. big guy with a big smile .. and friendly .. and the best part about him just walking along 3rd street was he wasn't being mobbed by people


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