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Radical Rob
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Kapolei, Hawaii USA
Insane since: Jun 2001

posted posted 07-22-2001 12:22

Ok I figured I'd throw this out for discussion...

I currently use Pagemaker 6 for most of my designs and layouts. I've never really gotten
into Quark as I had to chose I format to spend some $$$ on and it was ADOBE.

Are there any Pagemaker forums out there? Im trying to get it down as much as I've gotten Photoshop down.

Also if anyone has tips or anything on optimum performance for PM6 throw em out.

Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: 8675309
Insane since: Jul 2000

posted posted 07-23-2001 16:26

Ug. Rob, I don't know if you noticed or not, but Pagemaker will probably be discontinued-shortly. What I've been told is that it doesn't communicate in Postscript and I don't know what you use it for, but if you need to take things to press, you may want to invest in Quark or InDesign some day. It will save you from a lot of headaches.

Adobe may have a pagemaker forum. Also, look around here.

Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Houston, TX, USA
Insane since: Apr 2000

posted posted 07-23-2001 17:33

Well, InDesign is the Adobe product that's basically replaced Pagemaker, right? I'd think there might be a nice upgrade available...



Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Styx
Insane since: Sep 2000

posted posted 07-25-2001 10:36

I guess that it's correct that PM does not communicate in postscript for starters, but you can export to that format, and several printshop's I've been using had no problem rip:ing and printing from my PM files.

You just have to be a bit more careful regarding including all fonts and images (and making sure the color depth).

I've made 200 pages catalogues in 4+4 with PM, as well as posters and one-page ads. You can use it, but I guess you'll have to be a bit cautious.

I haven't worked with print design for about two years, so my knowledge may be a bit rusty, but I'll try to help out if you need it.

If you can't convince, confuse!

Radical Rob
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Kapolei, Hawaii USA
Insane since: Jun 2001

posted posted 07-25-2001 22:40

Well I must admit the only reason that I got PM is I hired a guy once to design a CD cover for me and he took forever designing the thing AND it sucked! So I took his master file that he gave me, converted it
to PC and redid it myself with his templates.

Thats the main reason. (plus I got the graphics suite for like 800 at the time that came with Photoshop, Illustrator (which I've never used) and PM6.)

Theres just so much I need to learn with it. Its really unfortunate if they are going to discontinue it.
I suppose I could get Quark. Seems like the standard around town.

Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: the west wing
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted posted 07-26-2001 16:16

You've never used Illustrator?!?

Christ almighty.

For the record: I am quite fine with Adobe discontinuing PM. I like Quark a lot.

Radical Rob
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Kapolei, Hawaii USA
Insane since: Jun 2001

posted posted 07-28-2001 11:42

I know I know, I think I spend to much time doing... um... whats that called???? Hmmmm.....

ah thats it... working. All work and no play makes Rob have a sorry day.... :-(

I really should mess around with it. I mean I paid for it right? any handy sites with tuts?

Nervous Wreck (II) Inmate

From: Brentwood, TN USA
Insane since: Jul 2001

posted posted 07-30-2001 22:16

I too am a Pagemaker 6.5 user. I layout/design 24-36 page healthcare tabloids. I also use Quark (many of the ads that come my way are created in Quark) but typically export the Quark files as eps and import into Pagemaker. Just thought I'd let you know I recently started saving my entire document as a post script file and then running it through acrobat distiller to make a nice pdf for the folks that print the paper. Of course they then export the pdf into individual eps pages and import it back into Quark to do their thing to it, but it seems to work well for us. Works great for me. Although, I do suspect that one day I will have to abandon PM and go Quark all the way.

To Radical Rob: I have been a PM user for many years and will be happy to help you out on an occasional question. You can reach me at I've had so much help from others on line (like this forum for example) that I am anxious to repay the debt!!

Susan the Art Director

Radical Rob
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Kapolei, Hawaii USA
Insane since: Jun 2001

posted posted 08-09-2001 06:09

Thanks! The main reason as I said that I use PM6.5 is that I had a template from a CD manufacturer that I needed to match specificly or I would have been in deep doo. And a client paid for it so I mnot sweating the $$ part.

Ya know for the most part I figured out most of the stuff. I was a little irritated when I try and create drop shadows by copying the text and changing the color as it seems to not match exactly as it is supposed to.

Also importing transparent images to manipulate. Corel seems to work well with that unfortunately its not supported by many manufacturing houses.

thanks though!

Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: 8675309
Insane since: Jul 2000

posted posted 08-15-2001 22:55

Can you believe they just released an upgrade to Pagemaker? Adobe doesn't make sense to me at all.

Nervous Wreck (II) Inmate

From: Halmstad, Sweden
Insane since: Feb 2001

posted posted 08-17-2001 12:05

No I didn´t believe that either when I saw it...guess ol´pagemaker still has many friends out there...
A friend of mine has purchased it and we have our own "quark vs. pagemaker" war, so we ´ll see what happens...He´s doing some jobs for me every now and then, and when the first ad shows up done in PM 7 - I´ll really look for errors, he he.

Otherwise I´m still busy trying to get my damn machine to work. Have upgraded to 9.1 and installed more RAM (felt like a kid waiting for Santa when I did this. 29 years and happy for a thing like that, am I sad or what????) Also upgraded my Virtual PC to v. 4 but it doesn´t work properly yet. Damn!! Anyone used this Software???


Neurotic (0) Inmate
Newly admitted

Insane since: Aug 2001

posted posted 08-30-2001 05:35

Friends don't let friends use PM. Quark Rules.. as long as you don't try and work with big files over the network.

That drop shadow issue...don't mess with Illustrator, learn it! make it your best friend... Do people really use the "C" application and try to go to print. Must be some of those graphic savy PC users.

I'm new in town, just trying to stir the pot.


Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: North Carolina mountains
Insane since: Dec 2000

posted posted 09-04-2001 01:28

I'm fairly new to print graphics too. Recently worked a short time for a graphic design company doing furniture catalogs and such, and now I am working at a daily newspaper.
When in the military doing the base newspapers, I always used PageMaker. I loved that program to death. Knew it inside out. Got away from page layout for a few years then left the military and got into the business where I am now. Both recent civilian employers (graphic design and newspaper) use Quark. Still having a tough time adjusting, there are some things I still love about PM that Quark does completely different. But oh well. Gotta change with the times I guess.

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