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Ogie
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Australia, the land of deadly creatures, and deadly idiots (Steve Irwin, who else?)
Insane since: Nov 2001

posted posted 09-15-2002 14:24

After a recent event of getting very drunk one night, I decided to call up some people and abuse them. It seemed like a good idea at the time.

This was a bad decision.

I have nealy lost my best friend after some certain comments were made. Ones that I now regret.

I pose the question...Why is it that we always do stupid things like this when we're drunk?

synax
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Cell 666
Insane since: Mar 2002

posted posted 09-15-2002 17:04

If you don't know why you do stupid things when you're drunk, then you shouldn't be drinking...
Alcohol is a mood altering drug. It also messes with your judgement and coordination skills. So don't drink anymore unless you can handle the reprocussions.

Dracusis
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Brisbane, Australia
Insane since: Apr 2001

posted posted 09-15-2002 17:36

So you failed to notice that getting 'drunk' altered the way you feel and think?

Bugimus
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: New California
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 09-15-2002 17:43

Read a biology book and from now on don't bother getting drunk or I may be inclined to call you stupid

. . : slicePuzzle

Indus
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Maine
Insane since: Aug 2002

posted posted 09-15-2002 17:49

as I heard once from an officer, "Alcohol is liquid courage"

But then of course you do get the stupid factor when you consume too much of it and if you can't control yourself while you are drinking then you shouldnt be drinking at all.

el_Grande
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: The land up and over.
Insane since: Dec 2000

posted posted 09-15-2002 18:32

Bunch of righteous BS. I'm sure everyone that has replied to this thread never drinks, never testsed their limit, and has never done anything they've regretted the next day.

Sure, your gonna say, "What do you know about me? I never drink cause it's stupid, and only stupid wankers ever get drunk!" But what do I know, I am after just a real person.

Ogie, we do dumb stuff cause it's funny as hell at the time. Sure that last beer may have altered your ability to comprehend the results of your actions. Just make sure you drink with people that share your drunken sense of humor and all will be well.

EG
~Let the flaming begin.~

eyezaer
Lunatic (VI) Mad Scientist

From: the Psychiatric Ward
Insane since: Sep 2000

posted posted 09-15-2002 19:13

hehehe.... I will say nothing.

quote:
never drinks, never testsed their limit, and has never done anything they've regretted the next day



that would be me. Am i missin out... not at all.

                                                           

tikigod
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: outside Augusta National
Insane since: Nov 2001

posted posted 09-15-2002 19:21

Im not going to call it "righteous BS" but I agree some of el_Grande's sentiment.

Nobody knows how to "hold their liquor" right out the gate and some never do. Its a learning process. Ogie if you continue to get plastered, falling down drunk in the future, you'll have more incidents you'll regret, but you'll also have some great memories(and, no, Im not saying that you have to get drunk to have a good time. But a lot of my best memories are of me and some friends getting "out of control"). Its kind of a trial and error thing. If the worst thing you did is piss a few people off, count yourself lucky...It could be worse.

If you continue to have problems like this then I suggest you stop drinking. If you cant then get help. If it was a fluke then chalk it up to a learning experience.

I think the others have answered your question pretty well- Booze puts the "I dont give a shit" portion of your brain in overdrive.

synax
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Cell 666
Insane since: Mar 2002

posted posted 09-15-2002 20:17
quote:
Bunch of righteous BS. I'm sure everyone that has replied to this thread never drinks, never testsed their limit, and has never done anything they've regretted the next day.



You're a fucking idiot. Just because someone doesn't drink means they don't know what happens if you do? Does it change how alcohol affects a person if you're the person consuming it or not? No. So please, shut up and don't try to justify your actions based on your blood-alcohol content.

And just to prove you wrong, I DO drink and I DO get drunk and I have DONE things that I have regretted while drunk.

Dracusis
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Brisbane, Australia
Insane since: Apr 2001

posted posted 09-15-2002 20:35

el_Grande, calm down buddy. We're not serious, we just see the funny side of the question. Depending on how you read it, it's not unlike saying: Why does my head hurt when I pound it against a brick wall? Tee hee... Head + wall = pain &#0124; &#0124; Alcohol + telephone = regrets. Tee hee hee.

Just poking a lil fun, tiz all.

Emperor
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Cell 53, East Wing
Insane since: Jul 2001

posted posted 09-15-2002 20:49

The only solution is to drink so much you don't remember the embarassing things you do, if people start reminding you about your actions keep drinking more and the paranoia will kick in and you'll imagine they are making it up, if they keep on flapping their gums keep drinking and start drinking when you get up in the morning them all day and soon you'll have no friends - then you get to sit in your room and drink yourself to death and there will be no-one to tell you if you've done anything stupid and you'll not remember: Problem solved

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Emps

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CPrompt
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: there...no..there.....
Insane since: May 2001

posted posted 09-15-2002 23:04

Hey, good advice Emps!

Me, I drink all the time. Not bragging, I just do. I don't get drunk though. I lost my job a couple of weeks ago, and man did I tie one on!! Drank an entire fifth of Spiced Rum, 4 Bass Beers and Bloody Mary! It was a good cause
I didn't call anyone up though. I know one person in this state besides my fiancee and I don't think that Jeni would really appreciate me calling her up all sloppy drunk telling her my woes. The joys of living in a state that you really know no one.

I've done plenty of stupid things when I was drunk. Never ran my mouth though. I always become everyones best friend.

But like Synax said, it's a mood altering drug. It can bring out the worst or the best in you depending on your personality.

Later,
C:\


~Binary is best~

Ogie
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Australia, the land of deadly creatures, and deadly idiots (Steve Irwin, who else?)
Insane since: Nov 2001

posted posted 09-16-2002 07:30

It semms to me that nearly everyone is tellng me not to drink...Well I like a few beers during the week, and I think most people are the same.
One things for sure, I won't be getting that pissed for along time. It was a great bucks night though.

Mabey I should just leave my phone at home the next time I plan to drink alot...and then throw up...and have alot of regrets...

Bugimus
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: New California
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 09-16-2002 07:45

I enjoy alcoholic beverages and think they can add much pleasure to life. I was simply suggesting that you not get drunk, soused, potted, inebriated, or pissed.

. . : slicePuzzle

Ogie
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Australia, the land of deadly creatures, and deadly idiots (Steve Irwin, who else?)
Insane since: Nov 2001

posted posted 09-16-2002 07:50

I'll try not to get as pissed next time, but when you have someone else paying for them... you tend not to consider slowing down..something which I need to learn how to do.

Ducati
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: in your head
Insane since: Feb 2001

posted posted 09-16-2002 08:44
quote:
that would be me. Am i missin out... not at all.



thats because you are too young my friend ;D

MAX

Suho1004
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Seoul, Korea
Insane since: Apr 2002

posted posted 09-16-2002 09:41
quote:
It semms to me that nearly everyone is tellng me not to drink...



Ogie, my man, you're totally missing the point. No one is telling you not to drink, they're just saying don't get fall-over drunk and then wonder why you do stupid things. I think Drac put it perfectly when he said:

quote:
it's not unlike saying: Why does my head hurt when I pound it against a brick wall?



Now, to review: alcohol may be called "liquid courage" by some, but I think "liquid stupidity" would be a far better term. Or even "liquid flaccidity" (as a good porter once said, alcohol "provokes the desire, but it takes away the performance.")--so take comfort in the fact that pissing off your friends is not the worst thing that can happen to you when you're drunk.

Ogie
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Australia, the land of deadly creatures, and deadly idiots (Steve Irwin, who else?)
Insane since: Nov 2001

posted posted 09-16-2002 10:03

But arn't some of those desires things we want to act on, but never have enough courage.

Suho1004
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Seoul, Korea
Insane since: Apr 2002

posted posted 09-16-2002 11:34

Exactly. Now, imagine that you finally have the courage to act on that desire, but you come up short (pun intended)... not exactly the outcome you were hoping for, is it?

Um, just checking, but we are talking about the same thing here, right?

Skaarjj
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: :morF
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 09-16-2002 11:36

That porter would be the comic relief in Macbeth, wouldn't he?

I don't need ot say anything on the subject here...I've said my piece to ogie last night in person

Ogie
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Australia, the land of deadly creatures, and deadly idiots (Steve Irwin, who else?)
Insane since: Nov 2001

posted posted 09-16-2002 12:27

I thank you all for helping me realise some mistakes i have made.
When you finnally get the courage to say the things you want to say, they always end up sounding alot different...I know that now.

Take some advice from me, If your thinking of talking someone say it while you sober.
You wont regret saying thing and it'll make a hell of alot more sense.
And don't piss on anyones car, It just makes them angry.

We as human are always going to make fools of oruselves, just don't lose you best friends over the actions that you decide to pershue.

Suho1004
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Seoul, Korea
Insane since: Apr 2002

posted posted 09-16-2002 13:00

Right on, Skaarjj. I admire a man who knows his Shakespeare.

Emperor
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Cell 53, East Wing
Insane since: Jul 2001

posted posted 09-16-2002 14:33

Ogie: No-one is telling you not to drink - I think the reponses are split into 2 categories:

1. Those amused by the fact that you are suprised that getting really drunk ends in regretable behaviour.

2. Those who suggest you should drink in moderation.

Suho1004: The Porter's Scene is a classic and its criminal that some productions leave it out

[edit: and CPrompt sorry to hear about you getting sacked - if you are going to get drunk that seems the best excuse yet ]

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Emps

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Suho1004
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Seoul, Korea
Insane since: Apr 2002

posted posted 09-16-2002 16:02

Emps: OK, now you're talking my language. How can someone not understand the dramatic significance of that scene? It boggles the mind...

quote:
And don't piss on anyones car, It just makes them angry.



That some good advice there, Ogie. I think you're getting there.

Oh, and about that courage thing--that's not really courage, that's your inhibitions being suppressed. That's what synax was talking about when he said alcohol is a mood altering drug.

In vino veritas, baby...

Emperor
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Cell 53, East Wing
Insane since: Jul 2001

posted posted 09-16-2002 16:58

Suho1004: I've seen a number of productions of Macbeth (sorry the Scottish Play) and the RSC version I saw 10-15 years ago left the scene in and it was superb and a rather poor quality version I saw somewhere else decided to leave it out (presumbaly not to distract from the darkness of the play but actually just missing the point). I'm not sure but don't the movie adaptations of Macbeth tend to leave it out? Its been a long time since I've seen one but didn't Roman Polaski do a version? I can't remember much from that except then end sequence where they cut of macbeth's head and carry it around on a spear and you get the view from his eyes

Also as well as mood-altering it is also IQ-inhibitting and so don't think that things you thought were a good idea when you were drunk are actually a good idea when you are sober (you aren't just acting out things you'd do if you had the cojones they are often things you'd do if you were mucher stupider).

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Emps

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DL-44
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From: under the bed
Insane since: Feb 2000

posted posted 09-16-2002 17:53

Am I the only one who finds it beautifully ironic that 'intelligence' was spelt wrong in the thread title?

Oh, and el-grande - nobody is saying that they never drink and have never doen stupid things.

But...to do something *this* stupid, and harmful to someone else, and then come here almost bragging about being stupid....well..

christ. what the fuck do you expect people to say to him?



CPrompt
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From: there...no..there.....
Insane since: May 2001

posted posted 09-16-2002 18:33

Yeah, Ogie. Don't take it the wrong way. Drink all you want really. I love to drink beer, wine, liquor, whatever. I rarely get drunk though. Makes me feel like shit the next day and it isn't worth it. In my younger days I used to drink VERY heavily. Now, I can drink quite a bit and it really doesn't effect me.

I kind of view it as using Flash in web pages. In the right hands it can be unharmful. In the wrong hands it can be dangerous and annoying.

Emps: it was a good excuse really. On the other hand, it has given me the chance to find a better job. I am kind of viewing it as an opportunity. I have had 4 interviews with one company and have another on Wednesday. Looks pretty good so far.

Later,
C:\


~Binary is best~

Suho1004
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Seoul, Korea
Insane since: Apr 2002

posted posted 09-17-2002 04:34

Emps: concerning why some productions (especially movies) leave out the Porter's Scene.

quote:
(presumbaly not to distract from the darkness of the play but actually just missing the point)



I think you hit the nail right on the head, there. I cannot fathom why anyone would leave it out of a stage production, but I can sort of understand why it would be left out of a movie. The stage and the silver screen are two entirely different animals (as are their audiences). Most action/horror flicks pile it on thick, and putting a comic scene in right after the big murder (explosion, whatever) would completely throw most audiences. Also, I just don't think a movie is as subtle as a play--or maybe it's just that they use different devices to convey their messages.

DL: Actually, I thought it was done on purpose. It's amusing if it was done on purpose, somewhat sad if it wasn't.

CPrompt: I love that analogy--drinking and Flash. Hehe.

Ogie
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Australia, the land of deadly creatures, and deadly idiots (Steve Irwin, who else?)
Insane since: Nov 2001

posted posted 09-17-2002 05:11

Yes, for all you people that must know, I did piss on someones car, and it made him very angry.
I have done some heavy apologising to my friends and everything is starting to get back to the way it was before.
If someone is going to quote Shakespear can they please explain it to me.

Suho1004
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Seoul, Korea
Insane since: Apr 2002

posted posted 09-17-2002 06:10

Explain the Shakespeare quote? Well, I'll try my best. Here's the full line by the porter, after he tells Macduff that "drink, sir, is a great provoker of three things," and Macduff asks him what those three things are:

quote:
Marry, sir, nose-painting, sleep, and urine. Lechery, sir, it provokes, and unprovokes: it provokes the desire, but it takes away the performance. Therefore much drink may be said to be an equivocator with lechery: it makes him, and it mars him; it sets him on, and it takes him off; it persuades him, and disheartens him; makes him stand to, and not stand to; in conclusion, equivocates him in a sleep, and giving him the lie, leaves him.



(No, I did not have all that memorized. I do, though, have my Complete Shakespeare at hand.)

I imagine that will make things a bit clearer. Drinking provokes three things: nose-painting (ie, it makes your nose red), sleep (self-explanatory), and urine (which I believe you discovered for yourself). The part that I quoted above ("it provokes the desire, but it takes away the performance") is in reference to "lechery," or, to put it simply, sex. I think "makes him stand to, and not stand to" pretty much sums it up.

Oh, yes, it's from Macbeth. We mentioned that, right? Act II, Scene 3, lines 25-32, to be exact.

I'm having a blast with this whole thing, by the way--thank you for the opportunity, Ogie. No offense meant, of course.

Ogie
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From: Australia, the land of deadly creatures, and deadly idiots (Steve Irwin, who else?)
Insane since: Nov 2001

posted posted 09-18-2002 05:24

Well, that is a pretty good quote...it just about sums things up.
I was ment to learn ShaKespear at school, but droped out before i did.

Thanks for helping me out with those quote. Mabey I should get myself a copy
The Scoyyish Play? But then again I hate reading and would proberbly shut the book after the first couple of scenes.

I'm going to pissed again this weekend when I babysit my sisters house, But there is no way Know that I'm going to get drunk again.

Hay, I invited aroud about 50 People for a party this weekend at my sisters...and she's got pretty angry about it. She told me I could invite over a few friends if I wanted.
Now I have uninvite everyone...and the people I've already told not to come over, got realy anoyed.

How do I tell them they're uninvited without offending them.?


reitsma
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: the bigger bedroom
Insane since: Oct 2000

posted posted 09-18-2002 05:37

simple: tell them the truth.
"sorry, i'm an idiot, and invited way to many people to someone else's place."


Ogie
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Australia, the land of deadly creatures, and deadly idiots (Steve Irwin, who else?)
Insane since: Nov 2001

posted posted 09-18-2002 05:45

That's not such a bad way of putting things.

Suho1004
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Seoul, Korea
Insane since: Apr 2002

posted posted 09-18-2002 05:47
quote:
Thanks for helping me out with those quote. Mabey I should get myself a copy
The Scoyyish Play? But then again I hate reading and would proberbly shut the book after the first couple of scenes.



You most probably will. Shakespeare wasn't actually meant to be read, but to be seen. I would recommend you find a good production and enjoy it the way it was meant to be enjoyed.

quote:
I'm going to pissed again this weekend when I babysit my sisters house, But there is no way Know that I'm going to get drunk again.



Um, I'm confused. You're going to get pissed, but you're not going to get drunk? Or do you mean "fall-down, blackout drunk" when you say "drunk"?

quote:
How do I tell them they're uninvited without offending them.?



Ditto what reitsma said. Although I would have to say that, in some cases, there is probably no way you're going to be able to uninvite people without offending them. You (and they) are just going to have to live with it.

Ogie
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Australia, the land of deadly creatures, and deadly idiots (Steve Irwin, who else?)
Insane since: Nov 2001

posted posted 09-18-2002 05:57

I meant I was going to get drunk but not as much as i did on last saturday night.

About telling my friend, I was thinking of something that doesn't make me look like an idiot.

Suho1004
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Seoul, Korea
Insane since: Apr 2002

posted posted 09-18-2002 06:55

OK, that's what I figured you meant.

And sometimes you just have to suck it up. Let's face it, you did something kind of silly. I think it's going to be difficult to get out of it without looking like an idiot, and if you try to weasel your way out of it, you may end up pissing people off more than you would if you were straight with them. Just a thought.

Ogie
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Australia, the land of deadly creatures, and deadly idiots (Steve Irwin, who else?)
Insane since: Nov 2001

posted posted 09-18-2002 07:24

i thought that's what you might say, well I geuss I have to face up and suffer the repercussions of my actions.

Ogie
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Australia, the land of deadly creatures, and deadly idiots (Steve Irwin, who else?)
Insane since: Nov 2001

posted posted 09-18-2002 11:48

Well I told everyone. They're not to pleased, but who cares. At least I finnally did something right.

Luxo_Jr
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Stuck inside a Pixar short film
Insane since: Apr 2001

posted posted 09-18-2002 13:09

Wow......u've been busy lately .
Rather be in ur situation than the one im in.....lol:

Skaarjj
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: :morF
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 09-19-2002 12:51

Will he or won't he what boyo?

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