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Perfect Thunder
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Milwaukee
Insane since: Oct 2001

posted posted 01-08-2003 01:37

The old-timers don't need this, of course, but some of our newer members might benefit from a little scan-through.

Tips For Effective Web Writing

Feel free to forward this to anyone who needs it!

Emperor
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Cell 53, East Wing
Insane since: Jul 2001

posted posted 01-08-2003 01:44

im not sure y u r letting the old timers off...............!!!!!!

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Steve
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Boston, MA, USA
Insane since: Apr 2000

posted posted 01-08-2003 04:52

Ooooh - writing like a wanker - yeah, *that's* useful info.


Only thing that wanker omitted was how annoying white text on a black background is ......
(Steve makes use of tip he picked up: " mutated elipses")

Emperor
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Cell 53, East Wing
Insane since: Jul 2001

posted posted 01-08-2003 04:56

hey stevo dont let dem nazis fewl u - ellipsis still rox0r...........................................

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Suho1004
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Seoul, Korea
Insane since: Apr 2002

posted posted 01-08-2003 06:16

Hmm... an interesting take on the subject, I suppose, but I've always found some of the articles at A List Apart to be very helpful:

Writing for the Web (along with Part 2)
The Narrative Web
Reading Design (somewhat related to writing)
Write a Better Weblog
10 Tips on Writing the Living Web

Not nearly as sarcastic, but quite informative.

reitsma
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: the bigger bedroom
Insane since: Oct 2000

posted posted 01-08-2003 06:21

great work there suho - you've come back in style.

now, if someone actually finds this thread in a search for "tutorial effective writing web", it won't be a waste of time.

still, it was a slightly amuzing website.

and emprah - i'm amazed you can actually stoop that low for two whole posts - and quite capably too, it seems.

Perfect Thunder
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Milwaukee
Insane since: Oct 2001

posted posted 01-08-2003 06:25

Hmm... I suppose you gentlemen are correct in your implied criticism: that those who would most benefit from the article are those who are least likely to read it, or realize that it refers to them; and for everyone else, the article is irrelevant and trite.

For those who already know how to write, and wish to write better, Suho has delivered the goods.

Yannah
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: In your Hard Drive; C:
Insane since: Dec 2002

posted posted 01-08-2003 06:34

web-writing...html?

"Trust" is a dirty word that comes only from such a liar but "respect" is something I will learn...if you have faith!!

Suho1004
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Seoul, Korea
Insane since: Apr 2002

posted posted 01-08-2003 06:37

Nope, not web coding, web writing. There's a big difference between the two. Take a look at some of the links I gave above for an idea as to what it's all about.

Yannah
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: In your Hard Drive; C:
Insane since: Dec 2002

posted posted 01-08-2003 06:46

ok sure!

"Trust" is a dirty word that comes only from such a liar but "respect" is something I will learn...if you have faith!!

WebShaman
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Happy Hunting Grounds...
Insane since: Mar 2001

posted posted 01-08-2003 07:11

Digital Web Magazine

A great resource, for web writing...

Though I think both Peter, and twItch^don't write in it, or are a part of it, anymore

Yannah
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: In your Hard Drive; C:
Insane since: Dec 2002

posted posted 01-08-2003 07:15

my sis's reading a html book cos she's planning on starting a site of her own...

"Trust" is a dirty word that comes only from such a liar but "respect" is something I will learn...if you have faith!!

Suho1004
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Seoul, Korea
Insane since: Apr 2002

posted posted 01-08-2003 07:38

Ah, yes, definitely a good addition there, WS. If we keep this up, this thread may even have to be archived!

Yannah
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: In your Hard Drive; C:
Insane since: Dec 2002

posted posted 01-08-2003 07:44

lol...that's good!

"Trust" is a dirty word that comes only from such a liar but "respect" is something I will learn...if you have faith!!

DarkGarden
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: in media rea
Insane since: Jul 2000

posted posted 01-08-2003 16:30

Digital Web is a great resource for web writing, yep. Oddly enough I'll be linking one of my old columns, only because it's about the only one worth reading

Written Content To Keep the Content Contented

It's not a tutorial as much as a breakdown of Dos and Don'ts that people seem to miss. Call it web-writing for dummies

Or by one.


heh

Emperor
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Cell 53, East Wing
Insane since: Jul 2001

posted posted 01-08-2003 16:45

The GN has a section in the links for writing content for the web so people shouldn't be shy about throwing any useful links in there:
http://development.gurusnetwork.com/links/179/

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Wes
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Inside THE BOX
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 01-08-2003 17:16

BTW, can someone please (seriously) explain the whole "-x0r" thing to me, please? In a sentence like "That totally rox0rz," would you actually pronounce it "rockers"?

Edit: Oops...I can't believe I used a capital O instead of a zero...



[This message has been edited by Wes (edited 01-08-2003).]

silence
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: soon to be "the land down under"
Insane since: Jan 2001

posted posted 01-08-2003 20:36

The important thing to remember about conjugating the -0r verbs is that the pronounciation is entirely up to the writer. In fact, even questioning the pronounciation deems you mentally unfit to use the -0r verbs as your higher brain functions may interfere with the torpid mental state needed to become a l33t hax0r.

Jestah
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Long Island, NY
Insane since: Jun 2000

posted posted 01-08-2003 20:41

Has anyone added this thread to the FAQ yet?

Jestah

DarkGarden
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: in media rea
Insane since: Jul 2000

posted posted 01-08-2003 20:50

Etymology (as near as I can remember the progression anyway):
back in the days of mainframe dialups and MUDs people of a more freethinking way would often shorten certain common words in a sort of dialectic manner. One of those short forms became "hax" when referring to that freedom of information idea ( ) and/or the people involved in it. The addition of 0r came around to better note the difference of the practice and the people (think teach versus teacher) the 0 was nothing more than a funky tagging that was reminiscent of writing in ascii symbols instead of just letterforms. Call it code, call it

Emperor
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Cell 53, East Wing
Insane since: Jul 2001

posted posted 01-08-2003 20:57

Jestah: I dropped PT's link in but throw the thread in as well - its a good one.

DG: Interesting............

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tikigod
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: outside Augusta National
Insane since: Nov 2001

posted posted 01-08-2003 21:00

If your serious about writing content you should have these on your desk:

The Chicago Manual of Style: The Essential Guide for Writers, Editors, and Publishers
The Associated Press Stylebook and Libel Manual

This is a good quick reference:
The Band-Aid Stylebook

Of course no one who has read my posts (full of tikiTypos) would accuse me of being serious about writing.



-tiki, cell 478

edit- See, told ya!

[This message has been edited by tikigod (edited 01-08-2003).]

Perfect Thunder
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Milwaukee
Insane since: Oct 2001

posted posted 01-08-2003 23:17

As long as we're bringing up the standards, I may as well attempt to redeem myself by presenting the online version of Strunk and White's Elements of Style. Anyone wishing to really start from the beginning should read this, then the works Tikigod posted, then move on to headier fare.

reitsma
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: the bigger bedroom
Insane since: Oct 2000

posted posted 01-08-2003 23:50

tiki: i don't suppose that those articles have anything concerning the correct usage of "your" and "you're"?

DocOzone
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Sovereign of all the lands Ozone and just beyond that little green line over there...

From: Stockholm, Sweden
Insane since: Mar 1994

posted posted 01-09-2003 22:03

Yah, Strunk & White's just rocks IMHO. If you can find it in printed form it's really quite easy to deal with, a very short book. One of the things that always stuck with me was the advice to avoid using big words just to sound intelligent. Use the *proper* word, big or small, and you'll always be understood better. Alas, I find I break many of the rules when writing online; different medium, different style. (ie: that last sentence broke some rule, I'm sure. =)

Your pal, -doc-

tikigod
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: outside Augusta National
Insane since: Nov 2001

posted posted 01-09-2003 22:43

edit-didn't see the slimies, my bad.

Like I said-The tiki is not a writer.

[This message has been edited by tikigod (edited 01-09-2003).]

Wes
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Inside THE BOX
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 01-10-2003 14:33

Unfortunately, most of the content had to be removed when the author's book was published, but there's still some good stuff at The Slot.


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