Preserved Topic: Hmm, should this forum even exist? (Page 1 of 2) |
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Maniac (V) Lord Mad Scientist Sovereign of all the lands Ozone and just beyond that little green line over there... From: Stockholm, Sweden |
posted 01-18-2002 13:38
It did seem to round out the top level; coding, coding, coding, and stupid HTML, heh. This is just an experiment for right now, please let me know if you think this is a worthwhile forum to have here, this now rounds the page out with 3 groups of 6 forums, which is the most I'd ever like to see here, heh. |
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers From: Cell 53, East Wing |
posted 01-18-2002 13:45
The forum makes sense but I'm wondering how many straight HTML questions get asked (they tend to turn up in DHTML or 'Site Reviews'). Well we'll see. |
Paranoid (IV) Inmate From: Milky Way |
posted 01-18-2002 13:47
why not? |
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist with Finglongers From: Germany |
posted 01-18-2002 14:13
yes, and it's often enough, that I find myself searching for a little something HTML/basic Javascript that I just can't seem to find and never know where to ask in... |
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist From: Omicron Persei 8 |
posted 01-18-2002 14:45 |
Paranoid (IV) Inmate From: Milky Way |
posted 01-18-2002 14:47
or...... put the css here, and join the 4 major issues in two different groups, leaving the others where they are |
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist From: Omicron Persei 8 |
posted 01-18-2002 14:57
this is just my opinion, but doc listen: |
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers From: Cell 53, East Wing |
posted 01-18-2002 15:05
Forum numbers does come up often here and I'm not sure if there are any right and wrong answers. Have a look at DevShed's forums: |
Paranoid (IV) Inmate From: Milwaukee |
posted 01-18-2002 15:14
HTML should be in the same forum as CSS, no matter what. After all, the Platonic ideal is for both technologies to be completely dependent on one another. Since XML is more server-side, perhaps XML questions are best in Server-Side Scripting. "DOM" is just ECMAScript, right? That falls into the dHTML category. Those questions should stay in that forum. Then the former All Browsers Suck becomes HTML, XHTML, CSS. Those are the only things that aren't already covered in the current (pre-today) forums. |
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist From: Omicron Persei 8 |
posted 01-18-2002 15:43
agreement. |
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers From: Cell 53, East Wing |
posted 01-18-2002 17:24
I'd go along with that suggestion - it makes sense (apart from the server side uses of XML it could become a 'serverside code that isn't DHTML' forum). |
Lunatic (VI) Mad Scientist From: Massachusetts, USA |
posted 01-18-2002 19:42
Yeah, I say, either combine this, the XML-...-DOM, and the DHTML/JS forum all into one, or just combine this and the XML-...-DOM forum. |
Maniac (V) Inmate From: out of a sleepy funk |
posted 01-18-2002 19:47
client side and server side! |
Maniac (V) Inmate From: Oblivion |
posted 01-18-2002 22:45
I think we should have this forum because DHTML is different from HTML because DHTML deals with javascript. If people are new and are starting to learn HTML the old forum wouldn't be the best place to ask because of all the DHTML and Javascript threads relate to... So I would love to help people in just an "HTML" forum. Sounds good to me Doc! |
Bipolar (III) Inmate From: Canada |
posted 01-18-2002 23:49
I think this forum is of use because there are some little html things i forget everyonce in a while. Like little commands to go in the <meta> tag, or <style type="text/css"> or how to make a background stick to back whie scrooling scrolls over it (i figures that out ). quote: |
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist From: Mi, USA |
posted 01-19-2002 00:50 |
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist From: Long Island, NY |
posted 01-19-2002 02:01
I think the client/server side forums are a better idea, but you pay the bills 'round here Doc. |
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist From: 127 Halcyon Road, Marenia, Atlantis |
posted 01-19-2002 13:11
I was always under the impression that 'DHTML/Javascript' was redundant. |
Maniac (V) Inmate From: Brisbane, Australia |
posted 01-19-2002 13:41
It does seem a little odd to have XHTML in one forum and HTML in the other. Not to mention that XHTML & XML are really a world appart compared to HTML & XHTML. |
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist From: Omicron Persei 8 |
posted 01-19-2002 13:48 |
Maniac (V) Inmate From: Brisbane, Australia |
posted 01-19-2002 17:16
Eh, I don't know. I'm just not too fussed on the idea of a "client side codeing" forum. It would be as busy if not more so then the general Ozones forum and I can barealy keep up with that one as it is. |
Paranoid (IV) Inmate From: Milwaukee |
posted 01-19-2002 17:55
In theory the gap between non-interactive display scripting (HTML, XHTML, CSS) and interactive display scripting (dHTML) is small. After all, there is overlap in technologies -- rollovers might be considered part of basic page design, while dHTML definitely can use CSS. But in practice, it's usually very easy to say "Okay, my current problem has to do with how the page LOOKS -- it's an HTML/CSS problem" or "Okay, my current problem has to do with how the page ACTS -- it's a JavaScript/CSS problem." For that reason, I wouldn't mind seeing at least two different forums for client-side programming. |
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers From: Cell 53, East Wing |
posted 01-19-2002 21:17
I agree with Dracusis and PT - while a client-side/server-side coding split would be nice and neat in theory it doesn't take into account: |
Maniac (V) Lord Mad Scientist Sovereign of all the lands Ozone and just beyond that little green line over there... From: Stockholm, Sweden |
posted 01-19-2002 23:08
You know me well enough, when I want real action and opinions on things, I just change them late one evening and rattle the cages! Your feedback was exactly what I was hoping for; concise, well argued, I think I agree with you after that. (And it looks like we might reach a concensus with it, too!) For my part, I need some kind of change, I miss too many things I don't want to miss, and the current breakdown of coding/graphic/whatnot forums is not working for me, probably not for others either. |
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers From: Cell 53, East Wing |
posted 01-19-2002 23:19
Doc: I don't know if it will affect your considerations but you've got PHP in the client-side list (it is late this side of the pond!!). With just a little tweak we could have: |
Maniac (V) Inmate From: Brisbane, Australia |
posted 01-20-2002 03:46
Yeah, I was thinking my inital suggestion of having an XML (and related technologies) only forum would be rather slow at least for now. So throwng XML in with HTML, XHTML ans CSS makes a lot of sence. If in the future the XML related questions start to over run things I'm sure this will be brought up again. |
Maniac (V) Inmate From: |
posted 01-20-2002 05:55
Nothing like seeing new sections of the asylum pop up. I laughed for a good long while when I saw this. I think this is a GREAT addition for simple questions. |
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist From: 127 Halcyon Road, Marenia, Atlantis |
posted 01-20-2002 16:22
ok, I've got to admit that the idea of separating client-side into actions and look does appeal to me... but it should stop there... |
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers From: Cell 53, East Wing |
posted 01-20-2002 16:33
PS: I agree that the descriptions of the two (prospective) client-side coding forums will have to be carefully done so that people aren't confused but CSS for movement is so wrapped up in the JavaScript that people shouldn't have too much trouble finding the right place (and its the moderators job to make sure questions end up in the right forums). |
Maniac (V) Lord Mad Scientist Sovereign of all the lands Ozone and just beyond that little green line over there... From: Stockholm, Sweden |
posted 01-20-2002 17:26
I'm just worrying about the coding sections right now, I'll tackle the others areas after. I like the "client side that moves", "c-s that doesn't", and "server side" idea, that was quite clear to me. I do still find value to the "basic html" section - I was just able to quickly answer two questions here; sometimes there are really simple things people want, and sometimes I want to just drop in and "answer a few easy ones", heh. (I might not be the only one! :-) |
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist From: Omicron Persei 8 |
posted 01-20-2002 18:13
well your choice doc, but my opinion is still unchanged: |
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist From: 127 Halcyon Road, Marenia, Atlantis |
posted 01-20-2002 21:04
emperor: sorry.... I didn't exactly mean 'unmoderated', I meant more 'unregistered'... |
Maniac (V) Inmate From: Oblivion |
posted 01-20-2002 21:46
lol skull.... |
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist From: 127 Halcyon Road, Marenia, Atlantis |
posted 01-21-2002 12:01 |
Bipolar (III) Inmate From: Illinois Valley |
posted 01-21-2002 17:55
unfortunately I'll probably use this forum a lot..... |
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist From: 127 Halcyon Road, Marenia, Atlantis |
posted 01-21-2002 18:48
see, don't get me wrong...... we're not saying that there shouldn't be a place to ask the simple questions. We're simply saying that the simple questions should be grouped with advanced questions of roughly the same topic..... Don't stop asking the easy questions! They're the only ones I can answer! |
Maniac (V) Inmate From: Oblivion |
posted 01-21-2002 22:11
lol skull.... |
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist From: Rochester, New York, USA |
posted 01-22-2002 05:41
HTML? people still use that? |
Bipolar (III) Inmate From: Denmark |
posted 01-22-2002 08:42
I like the way Emporer split them all up in 3 sections - good idea! |
Paranoid (IV) Inmate From: The Soft Cell |
posted 01-22-2002 12:47
WarMarge, hee,hee, I've just started learning HTML as a base to move onto greater things. It's going well but I would really value a place where I could find HTML questions and answers without having to sift through all the other languages queries. Remember, some of us are still new to it and this is a place of learning right? |
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